2005 MWSF keynote?

Colin Fox:
 > When is it and will be streaming at the Apple site?

*****

It _was_ at 9 AM PST on Tuesday, 11 January. Apple did not stream it
live, either on the web or, via satellite, in its stores.

According to MacNN "live webcast video streams of events such as Jobs'
keynote presentations, on average, are costly and yield few benefits to
Apple as a company." No benefit in having every Apple Store in the
world crammed with hundreds of salivating Loyalists, credit cards in in
their sweaty little hands?

And this from a company whose personal computers are still losing
market share, in spite of the success of the iPod. Shows what I know
about doing business.

Davoud

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In article <120120050919583325%star@sky.net>, Davoud wrote:
 > Colin Fox:
  >> When is it and will be streaming at the Apple site?
 >
 > *****
 >
 > It _was_ at 9 AM PST on Tuesday, 11 January. Apple did not stream it
 > live, either on the web or, via satellite, in its stores.
 >
 > According to MacNN "live webcast video streams of events such as Jobs'
 > keynote presentations, on average, are costly and yield few benefits to
 > Apple as a company." No benefit in having every Apple Store in the
 > world crammed with hundreds of salivating Loyalists, credit cards in in
 > their sweaty little hands?
 >

Ah, but think about it like this: they're Loyalists. Chances are they're
there to see what's *about to be released*.

They won't spend much in the store because the store won't have the new
goodies yet (generally).

Jim
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In article <slrncuad39.26g5.Jim.TakeThisOut@odin.magrathea.local>,
Jim <Jim.TakeThisOut@magrathea.plus.com> wrote:

 > In article <120120050919583325%star@sky.net>, Davoud wrote:
  > > According to MacNN "live webcast video streams of events such as Jobs'
  > > keynote presentations, on average, are costly and yield few benefits to
  > > Apple as a company." No benefit in having every Apple Store in the
  > > world crammed with hundreds of salivating Loyalists, credit cards in in
  > > their sweaty little hands?
 >
 > Ah, but think about it like this: they're Loyalists. Chances are they're
 > there to see what's *about to be released*.
 >
 > They won't spend much in the store because the store won't have the new
 > goodies yet (generally).

I bet if they could have arranged a demo model or two, and taken
pre-orders, they would have done pretty well. Since everything
announced this time is either available immediately or by Jan 22, it
shouldn't be too hard.

Of course, evidence suggests they're doing pretty well anyway, what with
the apparent load on their online store, so maybe it wouldn't make much
of a difference.

I always thought one of the benefits of the live webcast was to
periodically demonstrate just how well-suited Quicktime is to something
like that. That kind of self-promotion, only tangentially related to
the content of the broadcast, would seem to be worth at least some of
the cost of presenting it.

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In article <120120050830159223%garner@netstreet.net>,
Garner Miller <garner.RemoveThis@netstreet.net> wrote:

<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://stream.apple.akadns.net/</font" target="_blank">http://stream.apple.akadns.net/</font</a>>

I am getting an audio only version. Why am I not getting a video of the
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In <hflam-7DCE77.10505912012005.RemoveThis@news.telus.net> Henry Flam wrote:
 > In article <120120050830159223%garner@netstreet.net>,
 > Garner Miller <garner.RemoveThis@netstreet.net> wrote:
 >
<font color=green>  >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://stream.apple.akadns.net/</font" target="_blank">http://stream.apple.akadns.net/</font</a>>
 >
 > I am getting an audio only version. Why am I not getting a video of
 > the keynote presentation?

What is your Internet connection? Check in the QuickTime settings. If
you tell it you've got a 56k modem or slower it'll only give you an
audio stream.

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In article <20050113121437670+1300@News.Individual.NET>,
Roger Johnstone <rojaws.TakeThisOut@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

 > In <hflam-7DCE77.10505912012005.TakeThisOut@news.telus.net> Henry Flam wrote:
  > > In article <120120050830159223%garner@netstreet.net>,
  > > Garner Miller <garner.TakeThisOut@netstreet.net> wrote:
  > >
<font color=brown>   > >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://stream.apple.akadns.net/</font" target="_blank">http://stream.apple.akadns.net/</font</a>>
  > >
  > > I am getting an audio only version. Why am I not getting a video of
  > > the keynote presentation?
 >
 > What is your Internet connection? Check in the QuickTime settings. If
 > you tell it you've got a 56k modem or slower it'll only give you an
 > audio stream.

It is set on 56k modem. That's odd. I've assumed that I am connected to
my ISP to broadband via ADSL modem, DLink DSL 300G. How can i find out
what is my internet connection so I can enter the correct setting in the
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In <hflam-676CE0.17341412012005 DeleteThis @news.telus.net> Henry Flam wrote:
 > In article <20050113121437670+1300@News.Individual.NET>,
 > Roger Johnstone <rojaws DeleteThis @orcon.net.nz> wrote:
 >
  >> In <hflam-7DCE77.10505912012005 DeleteThis @news.telus.net> Henry Flam wrote:
   >> > In article <120120050830159223%garner@netstreet.net>,
   >> > Garner Miller <garner DeleteThis @netstreet.net> wrote:
   >> >
<font color=brown>   >> >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://stream.apple.akadns.net/</font" target="_blank">http://stream.apple.akadns.net/</font</a>>
   >> >
   >> > I am getting an audio only version. Why am I not getting a video of
   >> > the keynote presentation?
  >>
  >> What is your Internet connection? Check in the QuickTime settings. If
  >> you tell it you've got a 56k modem or slower it'll only give you an
  >> audio stream.
 >
 > It is set on 56k modem. That's odd. I've assumed that I am connected
 > to my ISP to broadband via ADSL modem, DLink DSL 300G. How can i find
 > out what is my internet connection so I can enter the correct setting
 > in the QT settings?

QuickTime makes no attempt to measure your connection speed (which is a
bad thing). Instead you have to tell it what it is. You can measure your
actual speed using one of many test pages

e.g. <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://speedtest.dslreports.com" target="_blank">http://speedtest.dslreports.com</a>

Then just pick the closest one in the QuickTime speed settings. If you
set it too low the QuickTime streaming server will send you a lower
quality video stream, or even audio only as you found. If you set it too
high you'll end up with the sound and picture dropping out.

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In <hflam-EAC59F.07430813012005.RemoveThis@news.telus.net> Henry Flam wrote:
 > In article <20050113203407084+1300@News.Individual.NET>,
 > Roger Johnstone <rojaws.RemoveThis@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
 >
  >> In <hflam-676CE0.17341412012005.RemoveThis@news.telus.net> Henry Flam wrote:
   >> > In article <20050113121437670+1300@News.Individual.NET>,
   >> > Roger Johnstone <rojaws.RemoveThis@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
   >> >
   >> >> In <hflam-7DCE77.10505912012005.RemoveThis@news.telus.net> Henry Flam wrote:
   >> >> > In article <120120050830159223%garner@netstreet.net>,
   >> >> > Garner Miller <garner.RemoveThis@netstreet.net> wrote:
   >> >> >
<font color=brown>   >> >> >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://stream.apple.akadns.net/</font" target="_blank">http://stream.apple.akadns.net/</font</a>>
   >> >> >
   >> >> > I am getting an audio only version. Why am I not getting a video
   >> >> > of the keynote presentation?
   >> >>
   >> >> What is your Internet connection? Check in the QuickTime settings.
   >> >> If you tell it you've got a 56k modem or slower it'll only give
   >> >> you an audio stream.
   >> >
   >> > It is set on 56k modem. That's odd. I've assumed that I am
   >> > connected to my ISP to broadband via ADSL modem, DLink DSL 300G.
   >> > How can i find out what is my internet connection so I can enter
   >> > the correct setting in the QT settings?
  >>
  >> QuickTime makes no attempt to measure your connection speed (which is
  >> a bad thing). Instead you have to tell it what it is. You can
<font color=green>  >> measure your actual speed using one of many test pages e.g. <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://</font" target="_blank">http://</font</a>>
  >> speedtest.dslreports.com Then just pick the closest one in the
  >> QuickTime speed settings. If you set it too low the QuickTime
  >> streaming server will send you a lower quality video stream, or even
  >> audio only as you found. If you set it too high you'll end up with
  >> the sound and picture dropping out.
 >
 > Though the site you referred to me didn't work I found one which did
 > give the results of a speed test. Now to enter the right figure in the
 > QT setting. The test gives me 1254 down/511 up. So which should I
 > enter in the nearest connection speed configuration in QT, the up or
 > down figure? Sorry about this, I am a complete newbie in all this.

'salright :-)

Down is the receive speed. A lot of systems use a split speed like this,
with more of the capacity assigned to the down link, since most of the
time you're downloading data.

The "1 Mbps Cable" option would be the closest. In reality it doesn't
matter too much for most things. For example the keynote speech only has
three versions: audio only for 56 kbit/s and under, low quality video
for 100 kbit/s and over, and high quality video for 300 kbit/s and over.

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