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MW Ron

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 5:19 pm Post subject: [ANN] New PowerPlant Framework Features for CWDS Mac OS 9 Archived from groups: comp>sys>mac>programmer>codewarrior, others (more info?)

* PowerPlant X for Mac OS X * PowerPlant reworked for OS X. Binaries are Mach-O only. * Can be built with version 8.3 as well as 9. -- CodeWarrior Development Studio for Macintosh v9 Enhance Your Productivity and Shorten your Development Cycles <http://store.metrowerks.com/> Sales and Support 512-996-5300 800-377-5416 Ron Liechty - MWRon DeleteThis @metrowerks.com - http://www.metrowerks.com >> Stay informed about: [ANN] New PowerPlant Framework Features for CWDS Mac OS 9

Isaac Wankerl

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 6:25 pm Post subject: Re: [ANN] New PowerPlant Framework Features for CWDS Mac OS [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

In article <mwron-EE9CB5.14192825082003 RemoveThis @enews.newsguy.com>, MW Ron <mwron RemoveThis @metrowerks.com> wrote: > * PowerPlant X for Mac OS X > * PowerPlant reworked for OS X. Binaries are Mach-O only. > * Can be built with version 8.3 as well as 9. This is somewhat confusing (at least to me). It should be noted that CWDS for Mac v9 comes with both the new PowerPlant X and the original PowerPlant frameworks. The PowerPlant X (PPx) binaries use the Mach-O runtime architecture and the Carbon APIs. PPx applications use features only available in Mac OS X 10.2 and later. The original PowerPlant framework binaries can be Mach-O or PEF/CFM, and can use the Classic or Carbon APIs (this of course depends on whether or not you purchase the Classic PEF feature set of the product). -- Isaac Wankerl Metrowerks Mac Software Developer<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: [ANN] New PowerPlant Framework Features for CWDS Mac OS 9

Lally Singh1

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 9:50 pm Post subject: Re: [ANN] New PowerPlant Framework Features for CWDS Mac OS [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

MW Ron <mwron RemoveThis @metrowerks.com> wrote in message news:<mwron-EE9CB5.14192825082003 RemoveThis @enews.newsguy.com>... > * PowerPlant X for Mac OS X > * PowerPlant reworked for OS X. Binaries are Mach-O only. > * Can be built with version 8.3 as well as 9. 2 quick questions: - Is there a GUI editor for PPX? Can Constructor put out the XML it uses? Or can PPx read in Nibs? - I assume that you have to purchase 9 in order to get PPx. What advantage do I have for being able to build on an older version of the compiler? Thanks.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: [ANN] New PowerPlant Framework Features for CWDS Mac OS 9

David Phillip Oste

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 6:55 am Post subject: Re: [ANN] New PowerPlant Framework Features for CWDS Mac OS [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

In article <47906ff7.0308271750.7c0fb8ee.DeleteThis@posting.google.com>, lallysingh.DeleteThis@mac.com (Lally Singh) wrote: > - I assume that you have to purchase 9 in order to get PPx. What > advantage do I have for being able to build on an older version of the > compiler? I'm more productive on OS 9, so I'll be using Pro8.3 to compile PPx for awhile. I'm buying Pro9 mostly to get PPx, so I'm glad I can stay on OS 9 with Pro8.3, but still build for X with PPx.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: [ANN] New PowerPlant Framework Features for CWDS Mac OS 9

Gregory Dow

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 5:29 am Post subject: Re: [ANN] New PowerPlant Framework Features for CWDS Mac OS [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

> - Is there a GUI editor for PPX? Can Constructor put out the XML it > uses? Or can PPx read in Nibs? There is no GUI editor for PPx yet. One is in development. In the meantime, there is a utility which will convert Contrctor-gnerated PPob resources into PPx XML text files. And there is a utility which will convert Nibs to PPx XML text files. > - I assume that you have to purchase 9 in order to get PPx. What > advantage do I have for being able to build on an older version of the > compiler? The CW 9 IDE only runs on Mac OS X. The CW 8.3 IDE runs on both Mac OS 9 and X. So, the advantage is being able to edit and compile PPx code on OS 9. Reasons you may want to do this: (1) You prefer the OS 9 user interface. You can do your typing and editing on OS 9, and compile to check for syntax errors. (2) You are running on a machine booted into 9 (which may or may not also have X installed). You can write and compile PPx code. (3) Much of the code in PPx will run on Mac OS 9. Mostly, it's the view system, based on HIView, that requires Mac OS X 10.2. The Carbon Event, Core Foundation, and XML persistence classes all run on 9. So, you can use portions of PPx in projects that you build and run on 9 using CW 8.3. -- Greg<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: [ANN] New PowerPlant Framework Features for CWDS Mac OS 9

ward mcfarland

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 10:02 am Post subject: Re: [ANN] New PowerPlant Framework Features for CWDS Mac OS [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Gregory Dow <bmug1 RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote: > The CW 9 IDE only runs on Mac OS X. The CW 8.3 IDE runs on both Mac OS 9 > and X. So, the advantage is being able to edit and compile PPx code on > OS 9. If I do not have CW 8.x, but buy CW 9, I have no way to use CW on OS9 ?<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: [ANN] New PowerPlant Framework Features for CWDS Mac OS 9

MW Ron

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 1:06 pm Post subject: Re: [ANN] New PowerPlant Framework Features for CWDS Mac OS [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

In article <1g0fy22.1wju8o418xegnwN%ward@megawolf.com>, ward.DeleteThis@megawolf.com (ward mcfarland) wrote: >Gregory Dow <bmug1.DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote: > >> The CW 9 IDE only runs on Mac OS X. The CW 8.3 IDE runs on both Mac OS 9 >> and X. So, the advantage is being able to edit and compile PPx code on >> OS 9. > >If I do not have CW 8.x, but buy CW 9, I have no way to use CW on OS9 ? That is correct. Ron -- CodeWarrior Development Studio for Macintosh v9 Enhance Your Productivity and Shorten your Development Cycles <http://store.metrowerks.com/> Sales and Support 512-996-5300 800-377-5416 Ron Liechty - MWRon.DeleteThis@metrowerks.com - <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.metrowerks.com" target="_blank">http://www.metrowerks.com</a><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: [ANN] New PowerPlant Framework Features for CWDS Mac OS 9

JeffS87

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 8:42 pm Post subject: Re: [ANN] New PowerPlant Framework Features for CWDS Mac OS [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: comp>sys>mac>programmer>codewarrior (more info?)

Hi, Just curious... Why not Interface Builder and nibs? Jeff << There is no GUI editor for PPx yet. One is in development. >><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: [ANN] New PowerPlant Framework Features for CWDS Mac OS 9

Gregory Dow

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2003 2:19 am Post subject: Re: [ANN] New PowerPlant Framework Features for CWDS Mac OS [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

> Just curious... Why not Interface Builder and nibs? > > << There is no GUI editor for PPx yet. One is in development. > >> Because Metrowerks can't (easily) add features to Interface Builder. IB has no plug-in interface or any other means to add new widgets, or to even add a new property to an existing widget. -- Greg<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: [ANN] New PowerPlant Framework Features for CWDS Mac OS 9

Lally Singh1

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2003 5:14 pm Post subject: Re: [ANN] New PowerPlant Framework Features for CWDS Mac OS [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

I'm assuming being able to add new palettes to IB isn't sufficient for your needs? These guys found it sufficient: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.jiiva.com/abc/" target="_blank">http://www.jiiva.com/abc/</a> I'm down with a PPx replacement for IB (especially if it's packaged with source code as a large-scale example of a PPx app), but perhaps y'all can save yourselves some time & energy by a little shoehorning? Gregory Dow <bmug1.TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote in message news:<bmug1-1940D4.16195529082003.TakeThisOut@news.la.sbcglobal.net>... > > Just curious... Why not Interface Builder and nibs? > > > > << There is no GUI editor for PPx yet. One is in development. > > >> > > Because Metrowerks can't (easily) add features to Interface Builder. IB > has no plug-in interface or any other means to add new widgets, or to > even add a new property to an existing widget. > > -- Greg<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: [ANN] New PowerPlant Framework Features for CWDS Mac OS 9

Bryan Pietrzak

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2003 9:46 pm Post subject: Re: [ANN] New PowerPlant Framework Features for CWDS Mac OS [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Gregory Dow <bmug1.TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote in message news:<bmug1-1940D4.16195529082003.TakeThisOut@news.la.sbcglobal.net>... > > Just curious... Why not Interface Builder and nibs? > > > > << There is no GUI editor for PPx yet. One is in development. > > >> > > Because Metrowerks can't (easily) add features to Interface Builder. IB > has no plug-in interface or any other means to add new widgets, or to > even add a new property to an existing widget. fwiw: I believe IB for Panther will be able to add custom properties to controls, and perhaps to other widgets as well (windows, menus). Bryan<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: [ANN] New PowerPlant Framework Features for CWDS Mac OS 9

Gregory Dow

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2003 2:26 am Post subject: Re: [ANN] New PowerPlant Framework Features for CWDS Mac OS [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

> I'm assuming being able to add new palettes to IB isn't sufficient for > your needs? > <font color=purple> > These guys found it sufficient: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.jiiva.com/abc/</font" target="_blank">http://www.jiiva.com/abc/</font</a>> > > I'm down with a PPx replacement for IB (especially if it's packaged > with source code as a > large-scale example of a PPx app), but perhaps y'all can save > yourselves some time & energy > by a little shoehorning? IB is a Cocoa application. Adding new palettes to IB requires writing Cocoa code. And the jiiva folks are working in Cocoa. My understanding is that it would be difficult to add Carbon HIView-based controls to a new IB palette. At the present time, mixing Carbon HIView and Cocoa controls in the same window is not supported by Apple. I suppose one could write some kind of Cocoa wrapper for PPx objects. In the short term, it might be faster to shoehorn things into IB. However, the long term, I think that any successful GUI framework needs to have a GUI builder written in the framework itself. -- Greg<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: [ANN] New PowerPlant Framework Features for CWDS Mac OS 9

Lally Singh1

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 12:45 am Post subject: Re: [ANN] New PowerPlant Framework Features for CWDS Mac OS [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

I forgot all about the Carbon/Cocoa difference :-) Any hope we could get the source to the GUI builder as an example with CW? Gregory Dow <bmug1.DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote in message news:<bmug1-DAA1D6.16255630082003.DeleteThis@news.la.sbcglobal.net>... > > I'm assuming being able to add new palettes to IB isn't sufficient for > > your needs? > > <font color=green> > > These guys found it sufficient: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.jiiva.com/abc/</font" target="_blank">http://www.jiiva.com/abc/</font</a>> > > > > I'm down with a PPx replacement for IB (especially if it's packaged > > with source code as a > > large-scale example of a PPx app), but perhaps y'all can save > > yourselves some time & energy > > by a little shoehorning? > > IB is a Cocoa application. Adding new palettes to IB requires writing > Cocoa code. And the jiiva folks are working in Cocoa. > > My understanding is that it would be difficult to add Carbon > HIView-based controls to a new IB palette. At the present time, mixing > Carbon HIView and Cocoa controls in the same window is not supported by > Apple. I suppose one could write some kind of Cocoa wrapper for PPx > objects. > > In the short term, it might be faster to shoehorn things into IB. > However, the long term, I think that any successful GUI framework needs > to have a GUI builder written in the framework itself. > > -- Greg<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: [ANN] New PowerPlant Framework Features for CWDS Mac OS 9

Kevin Hoyt

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(Msg. 14) Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 12:36 pm Post subject: Re: [ANN] New PowerPlant Framework Features for CWDS Mac OS [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: comp>sys>mac>programmer>codewarrior, others (more info?)

MW Ron <mwron RemoveThis @metrowerks.com> wrote in message news:<mwron-EE9CB5.14192825082003 RemoveThis @enews.newsguy.com>... > * PowerPlant X for Mac OS X > * PowerPlant reworked for OS X. Binaries are Mach-O only. > * Can be built with version 8.3 as well as 9. Will there be a porting guide for moving towards PPx? Obviously, the first step is to have a Mach-O application. But a guide describing the 'best practices' for taking advantage of PPx would be useful. Sample projects are great for showing how to use the new classes and such, but they don't always help when an existing project needs to be updated to new classes and technologies. What I'd really like to see is a roadmap that shows how to go from one technology to the other. A listing of C++ classes that have been replaced would be nice. This would be especially nice where the old classes still work. Kinda like this: existing class that still works ---->>>> new class that does it better<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: [ANN] New PowerPlant Framework Features for CWDS Mac OS 9

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(Msg. 15) Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 1:47 pm Post subject: Re: [ANN] New PowerPlant Framework Features for CWDS Mac OS [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

In article <29898a0e.0309010836.1e449cbd.RemoveThis@posting.google.com>, hoytk.RemoveThis@us.ibm.com (Kevin Hoyt) wrote: >MW Ron <mwron.RemoveThis@metrowerks.com> wrote in message >news:<mwron-EE9CB5.14192825082003.RemoveThis@enews.newsguy.com>... >> * PowerPlant X for Mac OS X >> * PowerPlant reworked for OS X. Binaries are Mach-O only. >> * Can be built with version 8.3 as well as 9. > >Will there be a porting guide for moving towards PPx? Obviously, the >first step is to have a Mach-O application. But a guide describing >the 'best practices' for taking advantage of PPx would be useful. There is PowerPlant_X_1.0_Migration_Guide.pdf it seems to be all you need it to be for documentation, There are PPx Example codes too. Ron -- CodeWarrior Development Studio for Macintosh v9 Enhance Your Productivity and Shorten your Development Cycles <http://store.metrowerks.com/> Sales and Support 512-996-5300 800-377-5416 Ron Liechty - MWRon.RemoveThis@metrowerks.com - <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.metrowerks.com" target="_blank">http://www.metrowerks.com</a><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: [ANN] New PowerPlant Framework Features for CWDS Mac OS 9

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