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MW Ron

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 3:10 pm
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Mac Warriors,

The quiet period around our parent company's IPO (Freescale
Semiconductor - FSL) is over and we're going start making product
delivery announcements for the Macintosh market in September but I
wanted to let you in on what we've been doing. Some of the plans are not
yet confirmed and I donıt want to have our plans appear as promises,
yet. As these items become more fleshed out we will be making formal
announcements that will include specific details and dates.

First, I'm personally very excited that Metrowerksı partnership with the
Mac Developers community will continue. We will continue providing bug
fixes and patches to CodeWarrior Development Studio, v9.x as necessary
(we recently released v9.3 patch, available via our web site now).

Secondly, I can say that we are planning a CodeWarrior Pro 9 optimizing
compiler and build chain for 64-bit support that allows you to build
optimized G5 applications with the build speeds you expect from
CodeWarrior. We are aiming at a beta version of these tools being seeded
by end of this year, but that is not a committed deadline yet. More on
this build chain will be announced this September. You will need to be a
CodeWarrior Pro 9 customer to get this functionality and it will
complement (not replace) the existing compilers so that we don't affect
on-going or archived projects.

Finally, let me assure you that providing the finest optimizing
compilers and tools available for Mac OS X remains a focus for
Metrowerks. To that end, in addition to G5 support, we are planning that
a NEW CodeWarrior for Mac OS will be available in 2005. This new
CodeWarrior will include a text based project format and will utilize
more OS X features.

You may ask why is it going to take so long, the answer is that we are
addressing some of the long standing customer requests and increasing
our emphasis on product quality. We believe our timing is right, Apple
is not releasing a new operating system until 2005 so we have the time
now to build a new product and not simply a repackaged IDE. It will be
worth the wait. Look for more details in September.

Ron

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 12:23 am
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In article <mwron-736E17.14103801092004.RemoveThis@news.newsguy.com>,
MW Ron <mwron.RemoveThis@metrowerks.com> wrote:

 > Look for more details in September.
 >
 > Ron

Ahhh, Ron, this is September any further new yet?

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 11:23 pm
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Nothing for Windows????

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"MW Ron" <mwron.DeleteThis@metrowerks.com> wrote in message
news:mwron-736E17.14103801092004@news.newsguy.com...
 > Mac Warriors,
 >
 > The quiet period around our parent company's IPO (Freescale
 > Semiconductor - FSL) is over and we're going start making product
 > delivery announcements for the Macintosh market in September but I
 > wanted to let you in on what we've been doing. Some of the plans are not
 > yet confirmed and I donıt want to have our plans appear as promises,
 > yet. As these items become more fleshed out we will be making formal
 > announcements that will include specific details and dates.
 >
 > First, I'm personally very excited that Metrowerksı partnership with the
 > Mac Developers community will continue. We will continue providing bug
 > fixes and patches to CodeWarrior Development Studio, v9.x as necessary
 > (we recently released v9.3 patch, available via our web site now).
 >
 > Secondly, I can say that we are planning a CodeWarrior Pro 9 optimizing
 > compiler and build chain for 64-bit support that allows you to build
 > optimized G5 applications with the build speeds you expect from
 > CodeWarrior. We are aiming at a beta version of these tools being seeded
 > by end of this year, but that is not a committed deadline yet. More on
 > this build chain will be announced this September. You will need to be a
 > CodeWarrior Pro 9 customer to get this functionality and it will
 > complement (not replace) the existing compilers so that we don't affect
 > on-going or archived projects.
 >
 > Finally, let me assure you that providing the finest optimizing
 > compilers and tools available for Mac OS X remains a focus for
 > Metrowerks. To that end, in addition to G5 support, we are planning that
 > a NEW CodeWarrior for Mac OS will be available in 2005. This new
 > CodeWarrior will include a text based project format and will utilize
 > more OS X features.
 >
 > You may ask why is it going to take so long, the answer is that we are
 > addressing some of the long standing customer requests and increasing
 > our emphasis on product quality. We believe our timing is right, Apple
 > is not releasing a new operating system until 2005 so we have the time
 > now to build a new product and not simply a repackaged IDE. It will be
 > worth the wait. Look for more details in September.
 >
 > Ron
 >
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 > to discuss CodeWarrior topics with other users and Metrowerks' staff
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 10:23 am
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In article <EeGdnSK65L0VQKrcRVn-vw RemoveThis @comcast.com>,
"Matt DeCaro" <mdecaro RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote:

 >Nothing for Windows????

Nothing on the drawing boards at this time, but we are still fluid.

Ron

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 9:23 pm
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On 2004-09-03 14:58:05 +0100, MW Ron <mwron RemoveThis @metrowerks.com> said:

 > In article <EeGdnSK65L0VQKrcRVn-vw RemoveThis @comcast.com>,
 > "Matt DeCaro" <mdecaro RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote:
 >
  >> Nothing for Windows????
 >
 > Nothing on the drawing boards at this time, but we are still fluid.
 > Ron

I'd rather have MW put much more effort in their Mac hosted cross-compiler
to Windows or other and abandon the Win hosted one. If it had been me, I'd
rather have dropped CW-WinHosted than CW-JavaTarget ...

My 2p (an happy CW 9.3 user, yes: there's at least one ;-)
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 10:22 pm
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In article <41391711$0$6335$5a6aecb4@news.aaisp.net.uk>,
Jean-François Brouillet <verec.DeleteThis@mac.com> wrote:

 >On 2004-09-03 14:58:05 +0100, MW Ron <mwron.DeleteThis@metrowerks.com> said:
 >
  >> In article <EeGdnSK65L0VQKrcRVn-vw.DeleteThis@comcast.com>,
  >> "Matt DeCaro" <mdecaro.DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote:
  >>
   >>> Nothing for Windows????
  >>
  >> Nothing on the drawing boards at this time, but we are still fluid.
  >> Ron
 >
 >I'd rather have MW put much more effort in their Mac hosted cross-compiler
 >to Windows or other and abandon the Win hosted one. If it had been me, I'd
 >rather have dropped CW-WinHosted than CW-JavaTarget ...

Thanks I'll pass your comments on

Ron

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 6:23 pm
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MW Ron wrote:

 > In article <EeGdnSK65L0VQKrcRVn-vw.DeleteThis@comcast.com>,
 > "Matt DeCaro" <mdecaro.DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote:
 >
 >
  >>Nothing for Windows????
 >
 >
 > Nothing on the drawing boards at this time, but we are still fluid.
 >
 > Ron

Windows schmindows. Let's get those handheld compilers over to OSX.

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 7:23 pm
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Ron,

As I read your note, I come to the following conclusions. Can you give
me some guidance if I have misread the post?

- Java is apparently dead in CW

- Windows support appears to also die

If either of those is true, then I guess my exploration of Eclipse will
have to turn into a full conversion to it.

After something like 13 years of using CW, I kinda hate to make the
change, but as I read things, it appears that MW is no longer going in
my direction. :-(

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 2:49 pm
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MW Ron <mwron RemoveThis @metrowerks.com> wrote in message news:<mwron-736E17.14103801092004 RemoveThis @news.newsguy.com>...
 > Mac Warriors,
 >
 > You may ask why is it going to take so long, the answer is that we are
 > addressing some of the long standing customer requests and increasing
 > our emphasis on product quality. We believe our timing is right, Apple
 > is not releasing a new operating system until 2005 so we have the time
 > now to build a new product and not simply a repackaged IDE. It will be
 > worth the wait. Look for more details in September.

I've been looking most of September. Of course, this just says to
*look* for more details, it doesn't actually promise any more details.
Were there details I missed?

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 4:33 pm
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In article <4f8e9e08.0409261249.3285b23b RemoveThis @posting.google.com>,
larry RemoveThis @skytag.com (Larry) wrote:

 >MW Ron <mwron RemoveThis @metrowerks.com> wrote in message
 >news:<mwron-736E17.14103801092004 RemoveThis @news.newsguy.com>...
  >> Mac Warriors,
  >>
  >> You may ask why is it going to take so long, the answer is that we are
  >> addressing some of the long standing customer requests and increasing
  >> our emphasis on product quality. We believe our timing is right, Apple
  >> is not releasing a new operating system until 2005 so we have the time
  >> now to build a new product and not simply a repackaged IDE. It will be
  >> worth the wait. Look for more details in September.
 >
 >I've been looking most of September. Of course, this just says to
 >*look* for more details, it doesn't actually promise any more details.
 >Were there details I missed?

I fired off a letter to the press release person and it appears that
this is going to be delayed even longer.

I'll post a full lettre apologizing.

Ron

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 4:41 pm
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In article <1gko80k.1os0fjxsq2ou3N%burt@mindstorm-inc.com>,
burt RemoveThis @mindstorm-inc.com (Burt Johnson) wrote:

 >Ron,
 >
 >As I read your note, I come to the following conclusions. Can you give
 >me some guidance if I have misread the post?
 >
 >- Java is apparently dead in CW

Not officially, we still have Java tools in our Learning Edition.
However, I do not see us getting back into a market where we can not be
the best tools.

 >- Windows support appears to also die

Not yet, We just released a new version for Windows this year then an
update a few weeks ago. I'm confident to state that we are the best
Standard C++ compiler and library combination available for Windows.

 >
 >If either of those is true, then I guess my exploration of Eclipse will
 >have to turn into a full conversion to it.
 >
 >After something like 13 years of using CW, I kinda hate to make the
 >change, but as I read things, it appears that MW is no longer going in
 >my direction. :-(

Our direction is embedded tools support, this is where we are at and
will continue to go but we just reaffirmed our commitment to Apple and
Mac OS and Mac OS X, we did not do that for Java.

Ron

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