Aperture & iPhoto

In article <XM_wj.2415$A93.583@trndny08>,
"Little Sir Echo" <just wondering@all this.com> wrote:

> Recently I purchased Aperture because I thought it would meet my needs
> better than iPhoto which came with my Mac when I purchased it.
>
> However, I can see that although Aperture appears to be an excellent program
> for professionals and advanced amateurs, I am neither. It is going to take a
> lot more time to learn than I am prepared to spend at it. I am thinking of
> going back to iPhoto.
>
> I mentioned this to a friend who said that iPhoto '08 is a much better
> version than the one I have now and that he would buy it for me in exchange
> for Aperture.
>
> While Aperture costs more than iPhoto, it seems to me to be a good deal for
> both of us--provided it is legal.
>
> That's my question: Can I trade him my Aperture for the iPhoto he will buy
> for me?

Yes, of course - why not?
If you have never registered Aperture, then anyway it it easy. Otherwise
you probably would have to notify Apple of the sale.

HTH

Marc

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In article <XM_wj.2415$A93.583@trndny08>,
"Little Sir Echo" <just wondering@all this.com> wrote:

> Recently I purchased Aperture because I thought it would meet my needs
> better than iPhoto which came with my Mac when I purchased it.
>
> However, I can see that although Aperture appears to be an excellent program
> for professionals and advanced amateurs, I am neither. It is going to take a
> lot more time to learn than I am prepared to spend at it. I am thinking of
> going back to iPhoto.
>
> I mentioned this to a friend who said that iPhoto '08 is a much better
> version than the one I have now and that he would buy it for me in exchange
> for Aperture.
>
> While Aperture costs more than iPhoto, it seems to me to be a good deal for
> both of us--provided it is legal.
>
> That's my question: Can I trade him my Aperture for the iPhoto he will buy
> for me?

I suggest you do a bit research before committing yourself - in my view
iphoto is a pain in the butt - eg I spent hours renaming lots and lots
of my photos, only to find that when I went to backup the renamed pics
NONE of the originals had been renamed! Bastard software

So I am now using aperture (I am not a pro, and my pics are just record
pics of kids and stuff) and it seems a lot better - but I am just
starting with it and need to do some learning

David
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On 12-Mar-2008, David <postings DeleteThis @REMOVE-TO-REPLYconfidential-counselling.com>
wrote:

> In article <XM_wj.2415$A93.583@trndny08>,
> "Little Sir Echo" <just wondering@all this.com> wrote:
>
> > Recently I purchased Aperture because I thought it would meet my needs
> > better than iPhoto which came with my Mac when I purchased it.
> >
> > However, I can see that although Aperture appears to be an excellent
> > program for professionals and advanced amateurs, I am neither. It is
> > going to take a lot more time to learn than I am prepared to spend at
> > it. I am thinking of going back to iPhoto.
> >
> > I mentioned this to a friend who said that iPhoto '08 is a much better
> > version than the one I have now and that he would buy it for me in
> > exchange for Aperture.
> >
> > While Aperture costs more than iPhoto, it seems to me to be a good deal
> > for both of us--provided it is legal.
> >
> > That's my question: Can I trade him my Aperture for the iPhoto he will
> > buy for me?
>
> I suggest you do a bit research before committing yourself - in my view
> iphoto is a pain in the butt - eg I spent hours renaming lots and lots of
> my photos, only to find that when I went to backup the renamed pics NONE
> of the originals had been renamed! Bastard software
>
> So I am now using aperture (I am not a pro, and my pics are just record
> pics of kids and stuff) and it seems a lot better - but I am just starting
> with it and need to do some learning

David, I found out at the Apple store that the deal my friend and I were
anticipating is perfectly legal as log as we give each other everything
related to the respective programs. This includes erasing from our hard
drives any and all copies of the program we trade.

However, upon further reflection and continued use of Aperture, I decided
not to proceed with the trade. I am finding Aperture not all that difficult
to master in order to do what I want to do with it. I also remembered the
problems I had with iPhoto and learned that those areas have not been
changed in newer versions.
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In article <postings-9C0621.12335513032008 RemoveThis @news.ceinternet.com.au>,
David <postings RemoveThis @REMOVE-TO-REPLYconfidential-counselling.com> wrote:

> iphoto is a pain in the butt - eg I spent hours renaming lots and lots
> of my photos, only to find that when I went to backup the renamed pics
> NONE of the originals had been renamed!

That is a documented FEATURE of iPhoto.
It's called Non-Destructive Editing.

> Bastard software

Hardly. iPhoto '08 is excellent and, by itself, is worth the price of
the iLife suite - the rest of the apps, for me, are just "gravy".

> So I am now using aperture

You had better avoid spending hours renaming lots and lots of your
photos within Aperture, too: It uses non-destructive editing - just
like iPhoto.

> (I am not a pro, and my pics are just record pics of kids and stuff)
> and it seems a lot better - but I am just starting with it and need
> to do some learning

You are the type of photographer for whom iPhoto was intended. Given
your words, using Aperture for your purposes is like using a sledge
hammer to swat flies. Good luck.

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JR
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On 12-Mar-2008, John Rethorst <nobody DeleteThis @nowhere.net> wrote:

> In article <tb0Cj.5849$FG2.910@trndny08>,
> "Little Sir Echo" <just wondering@all this.com> wrote:
>
> > However, upon further reflection and continued use of Aperture, I
> > decided not to proceed with the trade. I am finding Aperture not all
> > that difficult to master in order to do what I want to do with it. I
> > also remembered> the problems I had with iPhoto and learned that those
> > areas have not been changed in newer versions.
>
> I haven't used Aperture, but I gather it's a workflow solution for bulk
> processing by professional photographers, something like Adobe Lightroom.
> Have you looked at Adobe Photoshop, or its lite cousin, Photoshop
> Elements?
> --

Yes, I have Photoshop 7 but it has no organizing capabilities. I have used
it on occasion for making adjustments to improve an image.

I also have Elements--but on my Dell PC. It has organizing capabilities that
are somewhat similar to Aperture, but I now have all my photos on my Mac G5.

I'm not familiar with Adobe Lightroom nor do I know exactly what you mean by
"workflow solution for bulk processing by professional photographers" but I
suspect that it is one of the things Aperture is rather useful for as it
clearly has many features that appear to be designed for professionals. I
will probably never use most of the features just as I have never used most
of the capabilities of Photoshop.

My current project is trying to organize a lifetime of photographs (several
thosand I guess) taken by my wife and me plus other photos inherited from
our parents. The latter includes about 400 116 B&W negatives my Dad made
with his Kodak box camera in the 1920's and '30's. I'm using my Epson 1200U
scanner and it is doing an excellent job, but takes a lot of time so I'm
glad I'm retired. I have no idea what would happen if I tried to produce a
really big enlargement from my scans, but they are entirely satisfactory on
my 22" LCD display even usuing the Loupe(magnifier) in Aperture. Full page
printouts on my inkjet or color laser are also fine. Of course, some of the
original images would not make good contact prints!

I'm scanning them onto a hard drive reserved for original scans only and
organizing them basically according to date. Then I import them into
Aperture using the option that leaves the original image where it is.
Whatever I do in Aperture toward organizing them in other ways or making
improvements to the images themselves happens within Aperture but does not
change the original unless I wish to do so. As I understand it, the original
is used by Aperture as a reference file when the image or adjusted image is
displayed or printed.

Having used several different image programs over the years and also having
experienced hard drive crashes, I like having all my original scanned and
digital camera images arranged by date on one drive with a backup on an
identical external drive (and also in Time Machine).
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