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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 11:33 am
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 11:33 am
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On 2007-09-11 10:33:46 -0500, Jim Higgins said:
> Out of curiosity I was wondering why Apple never saw a need to develop
> a newsreader app to integrate into their email program.
Because there are so many other third-party news readers out there for Macs?
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 11:33 am
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:15 pm
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In article ,
Jim Higgins wrote:
> Out of curiosity I was wondering why Apple never saw a need to develop a
> newsreader app to integrate into their email program.
By the time Apple developed a Mail application, Usenet had pretty much
fallen out of favour with all but us diehard types. There was never any
Apple mail app besides Eudora for years, really.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:15 pm
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In article , Warren Oates
wrote:
> In article ,
> Jim Higgins wrote:
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> > Out of curiosity I was wondering why Apple never saw a need to develop a
> > newsreader app to integrate into their email program.
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> By the time Apple developed a Mail application, Usenet had pretty much
> fallen out of favour with all but us diehard types. There was never any
> Apple mail app besides Eudora for years, really.
Claris Emailer, QuickMail, Netscape...
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:46 pm
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In article ,
Dave Balderstone wrote:
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> Claris Emailer, QuickMail, Netscape...
Well, yeah, but ... I had forgotten about Claris. That _was_ an Apple
product, wasn't it?
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:46 pm
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On 2007-09-11 11:46:57 -0500, Warren Oates said:
> In article ,
> Dave Balderstone wrote:
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>> Claris Emailer, QuickMail, Netscape...
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> Well, yeah, but ... I had forgotten about Claris. That _was_ an Apple
> product, wasn't it?
Yep, and when Apple stopped development of Claris Emailer, the top
Emailer software developers on that team quit Apple joined the
Microsoft Mac Business Unit to create Outlook Express for Mac. They
went straight to work adding all the features of Claris Emailer. Later
on, they released a completely re-written Mac-only replacement to
Outlook Express called Entourage that, for all intents and purposes, is
what Claris Emailer likely would have been if Apple had never stopped
development on it to begin with - plus all kinds of cool
enterprise-level Exchange support and so on. Entourage is one heck of a
Mac email client.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:46 pm
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On 2007-09-11 12:18:46 -0500, Jolly Roger said:
> On 2007-09-11 11:46:57 -0500, Warren Oates said:
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>> In article ,
>> Dave Balderstone wrote:
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>>> Claris Emailer, QuickMail, Netscape...
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>> Well, yeah, but ... I had forgotten about Claris. That _was_ an Apple
>> product, wasn't it?
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> Yep, and when Apple stopped development of Claris Emailer, the top
> Emailer software developers on that team quit Apple joined the
> Microsoft Mac Business Unit to create Outlook Express for Mac. They
> went straight to work adding all the features of Claris Emailer. Later
> on, they released a completely re-written Mac-only replacement to
> Outlook Express called Entourage that, for all intents and purposes, is
> what Claris Emailer likely would have been if Apple had never stopped
> development on it to begin with - plus all kinds of cool
> enterprise-level Exchange support and so on. Entourage is one heck of a
> Mac email client.
Oh - and Entourage does Usenet news as well. : D
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:52 pm
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Dave Balderstone wrote:
> In article , Jim Higgins
> wrote:
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>> Out of curiosity I was wondering why Apple never saw a need to develop a
>> newsreader app to integrate into their email program.
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> Why don't you ask them?
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 1:30 pm
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In article ,
Warren Oates wrote:
> In article ,
> Dave Balderstone wrote:
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> > Claris Emailer, QuickMail, Netscape...
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> Well, yeah, but ... I had forgotten about Claris. That _was_ an Apple
> product, wasn't it?
I never realized there was one 8-) I still like ClarisWorks better than
AppleWorks, but my e-mail program was Eudora for years.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 2:57 pm
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In article ,
Jim Higgins wrote:
> Out of curiosity I was wondering why Apple never saw a need to develop a
> newsreader app to integrate into their email program.
I'd start by saying that's two different questions.
1. Why didn't Apple bundle a Usenet client into their Mail app?
Because despite superficial similarities and a penchant by other vendors
for doing it, they're really distinct tasks that don't particularly
benefit from integration. In some ways, the integration provided by
other vendors has been a detriment to both the users and to the Usenet
communities involved.
2. Why didn't Apple develop a Usenet client, period?
Probably because it's frankly not a high-traffic medium for newer users. >> Stay informed about: Apple Newsreader |
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 3:44 pm
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On 9/11/07 1:57 PM, Gregory Weston wrote:
> 1. Why didn't Apple bundle a Usenet client into their Mail app?
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> Because despite superficial similarities and a penchant by other vendors
> for doing it, they're really distinct tasks that don't particularly
> benefit from integration. In some ways, the integration provided by
> other vendors has been a detriment to both the users and to the Usenet
> communities involved.
I like to be able to copy the occasional message from Usenet to an IMAP
folder. I also like my postings to be copied to an IMAP sent folder.
This is why I use Thunderbird for news which I consider an otherwise
terrible newsreader. I may switch back to (al)pine one of these days.
I use Mail and alpine for mail, so I'm really just using Thunderbird for
news while making use of its ability to do IMAP.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 4:50 pm
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 7:44 pm
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 9:41 pm
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In article ,
Jim Higgins wrote:
> Out of curiosity I was wondering why Apple never saw a need to develop a
> newsreader app to integrate into their email program.
They did at one time it was called Cyberdog.
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