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Since: Sep 05, 2007 Posts: 1
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:21 pm
Post subject: Is Apple service run by Dogbert? Archived from groups: comp>sys>mac>portables (more info?)
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My ExpressCard slot on my 17" MacBook Pro broke. Cards inserted into
the slot will not stay in; it just pushes them back out. So it needs
repair.
I had to make an appointment with a Mac Genius through the Concierge
on the Internet; apparently you cannot do this by phone. Good thing
the MacBook still was able to access the Internet! Only it wasn't. We
were on vacation where I had no Internet access. I had an AT&T
Wireless card, but it would not stay in the ExpressCard slot, so it
would not work. I ended up making the appointment while waiting for
our plane at the airport on the way home.
Luckily, there was one appointment for about the time of our arrival
at SeaTac. This is a big deal, because the Apple Store is more than
two hours (and a toll bridge) from my home, but it is on the way from
SeaTac to my home. I did not want to have to make another trip into
town just to drop off my laptop for repairs.
The Mac Genius told me that the computer could not be repaired in the
store. It had to be sent to a service center. So I had it sent to a
service center. This was August 23. On August 27 I got a call from the
Genius who told me that my Laptop had arrived at the service center,
but that repairs were "on hold" for some unspecified reason. Checking
the web site told me that the repairs were "on hold, waiting for
parts." Okay. I can see where they might not have extras of the little
spring thingy for the ExpressCard slot just lying around. Well, no I
can't. This seems to me an item that is likely to be about as robust
as the clicker on a ball point pen, which is to say it is likely to
break.
Oh, well. It is now Sept. 4. No change in the computer's repair
status. You cannot call them, not even the Apple Store, because they
say that they "are not taking phone calls." There is no way to reach
them by email, either. Near as I can tell, my computer has disappeared
into a black hole. It would be nice to know if the repairs will be
completed soon, perhaps even sometime this year.
This is why Apple can never be seriously considered as a business
machine. Apple thinks their customers are nuisances, not assets, and
treats them that way. Apparently the peasants are not entitled to know
what is happening with their computers. Few businesses are willing to
put up with this attitude. Apple really needs to learn a little bit
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Since: Jul 16, 2005 Posts: 322
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:45 pm
Post subject: Re: Is Apple service run by Dogbert? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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In article ,
cjcampbell wrote:
> My ExpressCard slot on my 17" MacBook Pro broke. Cards inserted into
> the slot will not stay in; it just pushes them back out. So it needs
> repair.
I am sorry your experience with Apple's repair service is sour. I have
had the exact opposite treatment where I sent my laptop away for a
repair WHILE I was on vacation thousands of miles from home. By the time
I arrived home a few days after I sent it away, the laptop was literally
delivered to me about a half hour before I arrived home. It needed a new
motherboard.
What happens with you call the store where you dropped off your laptop
to ask for a status on the repair? >> Stay informed about: Is Apple service run by Dogbert? |
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Since: Sep 03, 2005 Posts: 10
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 12:54 am
Post subject: Re: Is Apple service run by Dogbert? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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I bet that a lawsuit in small claims court would get their attention!!
jeff
Shawn Hirn wrote:
> In article ,
> cjcampbell wrote:
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>>My ExpressCard slot on my 17" MacBook Pro broke. Cards inserted into
>>the slot will not stay in; it just pushes them back out. So it needs
>>repair.
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> I am sorry your experience with Apple's repair service is sour. I have
> had the exact opposite treatment where I sent my laptop away for a
> repair WHILE I was on vacation thousands of miles from home. By the time
> I arrived home a few days after I sent it away, the laptop was literally
> delivered to me about a half hour before I arrived home. It needed a new
> motherboard.
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> What happens with you call the store where you dropped off your laptop
> to ask for a status on the repair? >> Stay informed about: Is Apple service run by Dogbert? |
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Since: Oct 03, 2004 Posts: 1917
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:31 am
Post subject: Re: Is Apple service run by Dogbert? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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In article ,
cjcampbell wrote:
> This seems to me an item that is likely to be about as robust
> as the clicker on a ball point pen, which is to say it is likely to
> break.
Just as an aside, I've never had the clicker in a ballpoint pen break.
Actually for that matter I've never had the ejector mechanism on a
CardBus slot fail either. But I think that'd be the more likely of the
two.
> This is why Apple can never be seriously considered as a business
> machine. Apple thinks their customers are nuisances, not assets, and
> treats them that way. Apparently the peasants are not entitled to know
> what is happening with their computers. Few businesses are willing to
> put up with this attitude. Apple really needs to learn a little bit
> about customer communication.
While I agree with the last sentence, I don't agree with any of that
which precedes it simply because in my experience Apple's support is no
worse than that of any other vendor, and businesses _do_ put up with it.
I believe Dante described one of the punishments in Hell as trying to
get support for an OEM copy of Windows. >> Stay informed about: Is Apple service run by Dogbert? |
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Since: Jul 19, 2006 Posts: 71
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 4:20 pm
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In article ,
Gregory Weston wrote:
> In article ,
> cjcampbell wrote:
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> > This seems to me an item that is likely to be about as robust
> > as the clicker on a ball point pen, which is to say it is likely to
> > break.
>
> Just as an aside, I've never had the clicker in a ballpoint pen break.
>
> Actually for that matter I've never had the ejector mechanism on a
> CardBus slot fail either. But I think that'd be the more likely of the
> two.
>
> > This is why Apple can never be seriously considered as a business
> > machine. Apple thinks their customers are nuisances, not assets, and
> > treats them that way. Apparently the peasants are not entitled to know
> > what is happening with their computers. Few businesses are willing to
> > put up with this attitude. Apple really needs to learn a little bit
> > about customer communication.
>
> While I agree with the last sentence, I don't agree with any of that
> which precedes it simply because in my experience Apple's support is no
> worse than that of any other vendor, and businesses _do_ put up with it.
> I believe Dante described one of the punishments in Hell as trying to
> get support for an OEM copy of Windows.
I've called Apple Tech Support on three or four issues over the past few
years, most recently about 2 months ago. I have always gotten excellent
service. This includes sending out a machine for repair. I'm sorry to
hear that the OP's experience has not been so good.
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Since: Aug 21, 2008 Posts: 5
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:26 pm
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Since: Sep 09, 2006 Posts: 3131
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:06 pm
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In article ,
hasta la vista wrote:
> In article ,
> cjcampbell wrote:
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> snipped elitist snobbery
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> I've never had a problem with Apple making a repair or a replacement but
> they would not win the world record for speed. But, this depends on who
> you are and how much you spend with them.
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> More like Doggy Bag than Dogbert where speed is concerned.
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> Rahthuh, Apple serves most rapidly and efficiently those who are
> high-toned, wealthy elitists or insiders and friends - individuals or
> companies. The average Apple user gets average service.
Whatever post you are responding to seems to have been deleted a SPAM by
my news provider.
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Since: Oct 03, 2004 Posts: 1917
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 9:21 am
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In article ,
hasta la vista wrote:
> In article ,
> cjcampbell wrote:
>
> snipped elitist snobbery
>
> I've never had a problem with Apple making a repair or a replacement but
> they would not win the world record for speed. But, this depends on who
> you are and how much you spend with them.
>
> More like Doggy Bag than Dogbert where speed is concerned.
>
> Rahthuh, Apple serves most rapidly and efficiently those who are
> high-toned, wealthy elitists or insiders and friends - individuals or
> companies. The average Apple user gets average service.
For what it's worth, I'm certainly an "average" user as far as Apple's
customer database is concerned, and the two times I've had to ship in a
machine for service - a PowerBook with a failed power board and an iBook
with an HD that died under warranty - it's been back in my hands less
than 48 hours later. And they replaced the backlight on the PB while
they had it.
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Since: Aug 21, 2008 Posts: 5
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 11:10 am
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Since: Feb 03, 2007 Posts: 3
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 11:10 am
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hasta la vista wrote:
> In article ,
> Gregory Weston wrote:
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>> For what it's worth, I'm certainly an "average" user as far as Apple's
>> customer database is concerned, and the two times I've had to ship in a
>> machine for service - a PowerBook with a failed power board and an iBook
>> with an HD that died under warranty - it's been back in my hands less
>> than 48 hours later. And they replaced the backlight on the PB while
>> they had it.
>
> I had best be honest and give Apple the benefit of the doubt - I've
> bought my Macs from resellers who offer their own service contract at a
> reduced price. But, they send the boxes to Apple to be fixed - Apple
> probably gives priority to those subscribing to Apple Care at a higher
> price.
A couple of years ago my blue/which iBook Claim shells screen went out,
I took it to a dealer friend of mine for repair, he sent in in to Apple
for a replacement, they did not have one in stock, but put out a world
wide part alert to locate one. It took a week to locate one and another
to get it to them and my little machine was sent back to me. The one
complaint I have with them; is they replaced my H/D, my whole world was
on that machine, luck the service dealer made a DVD of it.
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Since: Aug 21, 2008 Posts: 5
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 5:55 pm
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Since: Feb 03, 2007 Posts: 3
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 5:56 pm
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hasta la vista wrote:
> In article ,
> Steven Lichter wrote:
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>> A couple of years ago my blue/which iBook Claim shells screen went out,
>> I took it to a dealer friend of mine for repair, he sent in in to Apple
>> for a replacement, they did not have one in stock, but put out a world
>> wide part alert to locate one. It took a week to locate one and another
>> to get it to them and my little machine was sent back to me. The one
>> complaint I have with them; is they replaced my H/D, my whole world was
>> on that machine, luck the service dealer made a DVD of it.
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> Looks like it pays to have a dealer friend. I know a dealer, in another
> town, that I haven't seen in years - maybe soon and certainly when my
> service contract runs out, it would be good to go for a friendly visit.
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> A good lesson learned the hard way - back up your hard drive and
> reinstall the OS before taking in for service. Leaving any personal
> information on the disc is an opening for identity theft. I've had two
> returns for service to Apple with 2 different machines and both times
> the boxes were returned fully repaired and with the latest OS version
> installed - the latest version of the OS that I bought with the machine.
> But, the wait was 4-6 weeks on both.
Nothing that could cause me problems was on the H/D in the machine, all
that was either on CDs or my portable H/D, but all my links to pages
were on the main drive and there was a backup done by the repair center.
They send me an older version of the OS which came with the machine,
but I had updated and just reinstalled that when I got the computer
back. I'm told that it is standard for Apple to sweep the drive unless
they are told not to do so.
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Since: Oct 03, 2004 Posts: 1917
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 10:05 pm
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In article ,
hasta la vista wrote:
> In article ,
> Gregory Weston wrote:
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> > For what it's worth, I'm certainly an "average" user as far as Apple's
> > customer database is concerned, and the two times I've had to ship in a
> > machine for service - a PowerBook with a failed power board and an iBook
> > with an HD that died under warranty - it's been back in my hands less
> > than 48 hours later. And they replaced the backlight on the PB while
> > they had it.
>
> I had best be honest and give Apple the benefit of the doubt - I've
> bought my Macs from resellers who offer their own service contract at a
> reduced price. But, they send the boxes to Apple to be fixed - Apple
> probably gives priority to those subscribing to Apple Care at a higher
> price.
Seems likely, but in my case the PowerBook was past even the
availability of AppleCare coverage (it was about 5 years old) and the
iBook HD failure was in the first year (so paid AppleCare wasn't an
issue).
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:56 am
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:03 am
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