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Norm6

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 7:53 pm
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This is a very beginner question for those with multiple computers. ;)

My beginner question is "how best to keep all documents up to date and
backed up if I/we use two computers?" I'm very concerned that I don't
risk making any inadvertent changes to our long term permanent files.

I've never "sync"ed files before (if that is the proper terminology).

Do I just copy all my files (and my wife's files) to our PB on departure
and then back to desktop on return or is there a better way to assure
nothing is lost and all our files are up to date? Or is it better to
somehow segregate the modified or new files and only copy those back to
our "main" computers on return.

In the past, there were just a few documents I (or my wife) was working
on and I'd copy them to my/her desktop Mac on our return. And I wouldn't
use email. But now with a new PB and if we are on vacation longer, I/we
may use many or most of our files while away from home.

FWIW, I back up my desktop Mac to an external HD daily, weekly, monthly.
And I have a small external FW drive that I use with my Powerbook for
backups of any modified files while traveling and for emergency backup
of files, apps and OS.

Perhaps there are good articles on this subject?

Thanks for any tips.

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domanova

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 8:21 pm
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In article <Gc-dnXbqCej__ojcRVn-pQ.DeleteThis@speakeasy.net>,
Norm <NOSPAM.DeleteThis@nospam.com> wrote:

 > This is a very beginner question for those with multiple computers. ;)
 >
 > My beginner question is "how best to keep all documents up to date and
 > backed up if I/we use two computers?" I'm very concerned that I don't
 > risk making any inadvertent changes to our long term permanent files.
 >
 > I've never "sync"ed files before (if that is the proper terminology).
 >
 > Do I just copy all my files (and my wife's files) to our PB on departure
 > and then back to desktop on return or is there a better way to assure
 > nothing is lost and all our files are up to date? Or is it better to
 > somehow segregate the modified or new files and only copy those back to
 > our "main" computers on return.
 >
 > In the past, there were just a few documents I (or my wife) was working
 > on and I'd copy them to my/her desktop Mac on our return. And I wouldn't
 > use email. But now with a new PB and if we are on vacation longer, I/we
 > may use many or most of our files while away from home.
 >
 > FWIW, I back up my desktop Mac to an external HD daily, weekly, monthly.
 > And I have a small external FW drive that I use with my Powerbook for
 > backups of any modified files while traveling and for emergency backup
 > of files, apps and OS.
 >
 > Perhaps there are good articles on this subject?
 >
 > Thanks for any tips.

I think you'll find it worth the money to buy a synchronization app. I
use ChronoSync to keep selected folders on my PowerBook and iMac in
sync, but there are other apps that are just as good. I run the sync
routines once a day upon returning home. It only takes a few minutes to
synchronize my Desktop, Documents, Sites, Public, and Libarary/Mail
folders. I also use Retrospect to back up the /Users folder on the iMac
to an external hard drive. And I use Carbon Copy Cloner once a week to
clone the iMac's entire drive to an external drive.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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David Sankey

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 6:54 am
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In article <dom-6C487D.19213507082004 RemoveThis @news.ispnews.com>,
domanova <dom RemoveThis @invalid.invalid> wrote:

 > In article <Gc-dnXbqCej__ojcRVn-pQ RemoveThis @speakeasy.net>,
 > Norm <NOSPAM RemoveThis @nospam.com> wrote:
 >
  > > This is a very beginner question for those with multiple computers. ;)
  > >
  > > My beginner question is "how best to keep all documents up to date and
  > > backed up if I/we use two computers?" I'm very concerned that I don't
  > > risk making any inadvertent changes to our long term permanent files.
....
 >
 > I think you'll find it worth the money to buy a synchronization app.

I would second this.

However not all synchronization apps are the same and to date I have
only found one that behaves the same way as the old File Synchronization
control panel that came with MacOS9.

The particular feature that I am looking for is correctly resolving
files moved or deleted between bidirectional synchronizations.

The way most synchronization apps deal with these is to compare source
and target and and end up with the superset of both. A file which
existed at the time of the previous synchronization but subsequently
deleted or moved in either of the source or target is then copied back
on resynchronization.

What File Synchronization did (and You Synchronize does) is maintain a
database of the previous synchronization so that a file moved or deleted
is correctly recognized as such.

Only an issue if you don't remain totally up to date with bidirectional
synchronizations, but it's the situation that I'm invariably in.

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Tony Walton

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 5:55 pm
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On 2004-08-08 03:21:35 +0100, domanova <dom DeleteThis @invalid.invalid> said:

 >
 > I think you'll find it worth the money to buy a synchronization app.

Or maybe it would be enough find a friendly Unix programmer that can
make rsync (bundled with OSX) do the job for you.

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Dave Hinz

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 5:55 pm
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On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 20:58:15 +0000 (UTC), Tony Walton <tonywalton.RemoveThis@beeteeconnect.com> wrote:
 > On 2004-08-08 03:21:35 +0100, domanova <dom.RemoveThis@invalid.invalid> said:
 >
  >>
  >> I think you'll find it worth the money to buy a synchronization app.
 >
 > Or maybe it would be enough find a friendly Unix programmer that can
 > make rsync (bundled with OSX) do the job for you.

Yup, it's a one-line command. the rsync man page gives examples,
but if you want to post an example, we could come up with some syntax
for you.

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