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Oscar A. Moreno

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:59 pm
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Dear List,

I am a newbie to programming for the Mac. Can anyone suggest a GOOD book to
get started programming applications for the Mac?

TIA
Oscar

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Jolly Roger

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:59 pm
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In article <C3DA2405.3FDA3%oscar@hutchinsconsultant.com>,
"Oscar A. Moreno" <oscar RemoveThis @hutchinsconsultant.com> wrote:

> I am a newbie to programming for the Mac. Can anyone suggest a GOOD book to
> get started programming applications for the Mac?

It's really hard to recommend a book, because the value of books is
highly subjective. My advice? Besides visiting Apple's excellent
developer resources web site, as Billy Y suggested, go to your local
book store and sample some of the Mac OS X software development books
there to get a feel for which *you* like best.

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Gregory Weston1

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:59 pm
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In article <C3DA2405.3FDA3%oscar@hutchinsconsultant.com>,
"Oscar A. Moreno" <oscar.RemoveThis@hutchinsconsultant.com> wrote:

> Dear List,
>
> I am a newbie to programming for the Mac. Can anyone suggest a GOOD book to
> get started programming applications for the Mac?

If you're a newbie to programming, period, you should make sure you have
a copy of The C Programming Language. ISBN 0131103628

If/once you're comfortable with C, you should get Cocoa Programming for
Mac OS X by Aaron Hillegass. The ISBN for the 3rd edition is 0321503619
but it's not due to be published for a few months. The 2nd ed is
0321213149 but while it's an excellent book I can't recommend at at this
time *only* because the 3rd ed is impending.

You'll want to sign up for a free developer account at
developer.apple.com; that'll help you make sure you have access to the
latest version of the dev tools and docs.

You should also look at the programming related mailing lists at
lists.apple.com, and you should frequent the comp.sys.mac.programmer.*
groups.

Play is, IMO, essential. Experiment. Make mistakes. Understand why
they're mistakes. You will get tripped up, but you can ask questions in
the lists and groups above. Please try to keep the questions to the
lists on-topic. For example, there's a list for issues dealing with the
development environment (Xcode) specifically, which is separate from
real coding topics.
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billy

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:18 pm
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Oscar A. Moreno <oscar DeleteThis @hutchinsconsultant.com> writes:

> I am a newbie to programming for the Mac. Can anyone suggest a GOOD book to
> get started programming applications for the Mac?

I can't suggest a book, but I recommend starting here -

http://developer.apple.com/gettingstarted/

Billy Y..
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Steven Fisher

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:59 pm
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On 2008-02-14 14:34:21 -0800, Gregory Weston <uce.RemoveThis@splook.com> said:

> If/once you're comfortable with C, you should get Cocoa Programming for
> Mac OS X by Aaron Hillegass. The ISBN for the 3rd edition is 0321503619
> but it's not due to be published for a few months. The 2nd ed is
> 0321213149 but while it's an excellent book I can't recommend at at this
> time *only* because the 3rd ed is impending.

I'm a C/C++ developer with little to no knowlege of either Objective C
or Cocoa, would you recommend this book?

I'm not looking for hundreds of pages of "This is a compiler. This is a
comment. This is a variable." but something with a good overview of the
Objective C extensions to C and (especially) a good overview of Cocoa.

I tried looking at the online sample for this book once, but of course
it only had the "Cocoa is a 'framework'" chapter online. Useless for
evaluation purposes.
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Dave Balderstone

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:59 pm
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Oscar A. Moreno

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:22 am
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Thanks ALL for the tips and recommendations.
Oscar

On 2/14/08 05:34 PM, in article
uce-A13E74.17342114022008.TakeThisOut@comcast.dca.giganews.com, "Gregory Weston"
<uce.TakeThisOut@splook.com> wrote:

> In article <C3DA2405.3FDA3%oscar@hutchinsconsultant.com>,
> "Oscar A. Moreno" <oscar.TakeThisOut@hutchinsconsultant.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear List,
>>
>> I am a newbie to programming for the Mac. Can anyone suggest a GOOD book to
>> get started programming applications for the Mac?
>
> If you're a newbie to programming, period, you should make sure you have
> a copy of The C Programming Language. ISBN 0131103628
>
> If/once you're comfortable with C, you should get Cocoa Programming for
> Mac OS X by Aaron Hillegass. The ISBN for the 3rd edition is 0321503619
> but it's not due to be published for a few months. The 2nd ed is
> 0321213149 but while it's an excellent book I can't recommend at at this
> time *only* because the 3rd ed is impending.
>
> You'll want to sign up for a free developer account at
> developer.apple.com; that'll help you make sure you have access to the
> latest version of the dev tools and docs.
>
> You should also look at the programming related mailing lists at
> lists.apple.com, and you should frequent the comp.sys.mac.programmer.*
> groups.
>
> Play is, IMO, essential. Experiment. Make mistakes. Understand why
> they're mistakes. You will get tripped up, but you can ask questions in
> the lists and groups above. Please try to keep the questions to the
> lists on-topic. For example, there's a list for issues dealing with the
> development environment (Xcode) specifically, which is separate from
> real coding topics.
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Gregory Weston1

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:17 am
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In article <2008021414593864440-sdfisher@spamcopnet>,
Steven Fisher <sdfisher.DeleteThis@spamcop.net> wrote:

> On 2008-02-14 14:34:21 -0800, Gregory Weston <uce.DeleteThis@splook.com> said:
>
> > If/once you're comfortable with C, you should get Cocoa Programming for
> > Mac OS X by Aaron Hillegass. The ISBN for the 3rd edition is 0321503619
> > but it's not due to be published for a few months. The 2nd ed is
> > 0321213149 but while it's an excellent book I can't recommend at at this
> > time *only* because the 3rd ed is impending.
>
> I'm a C/C++ developer with little to no knowlege of either Objective C
> or Cocoa, would you recommend this book?
>
> I'm not looking for hundreds of pages of "This is a compiler. This is a
> comment. This is a variable." but something with a good overview of the
> Objective C extensions to C and (especially) a good overview of Cocoa.
>
> I tried looking at the online sample for this book once, but of course
> it only had the "Cocoa is a 'framework'" chapter online. Useless for
> evaluation purposes.

I would definitely recommend this book, but I would wait until May for
the 3rd edition. Mr. Hillegass assumes you know how to code and are at
least competent with C; the book is overwhelmingly focussed on getting
you productive with Cocoa and Xcode.
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