Buy a Macbook now?

In article <1148942000.239402.160970.DeleteThis@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
<sean.boots.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm looking into buying a Macbook (not pro) for personal and school
> use. The issues with the "Pro" scared me, though. Would you recommend
> waiting to see if problems are discovered with the regular Macbook? Do
> they (Apple) announce when said issues are fixed? (Hardware revisions
> and whatnot.) Are there any announcements or new product releases
> (software notwithstanding) expected from Apple in the next few months?
> ;-) Or is it time to jump on the bandwagon?
>
> This is crazy, though. The thought of actually owning a Mac is
> somewhat unbelieveable. Thanks for any comments!

It might be prudent to get the next version. But, what the hell, that's
what warranties are for.
So far all the Macbook reports are pretty positive. I'd watch
newsgroups like this one. If there is going to be something wrong with
them, you will hear about it pretty soon here.
Will there be new product soon? Of course there will. It is one of the
basic laws of physics. A new one will arrive straight after you buy
something. No matter how long you wait. It is quantum Murphy's
electrodynamics.

Seriously. Apple never pre-announces anything. But they did say the
whole Mac line will be Intel by the end of the year. Expect a beefy
desktop or two before Christmas.
>
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> I'm looking into buying a Macbook (not pro) for personal and school
> use. The issues with the "Pro" scared me, though. Would you recommend
> waiting to see if problems are discovered with the regular Macbook?
> <snip>
> ;-) Or is it time to jump on the bandwagon?

I also waited few months before I put in my order for MBP and after
using is for a few weeks I decided to get also MB almost immediately
when they came out. Now I have both - one as pretty much desktop
replacement for ocasional moving around the house (MBP) and MB is for
pretty much for everything else - daily mails, lugging it around with me
on business trips to coffee shops, out by the pool, etc.

Both machines are very good and each has its own purpose (at lest for
me). If I were to decide again if I shell out the money I would. And did
I already say that I'm very happy with both ;-). Both are great and for
what you seem to be looking for the MB is good machine and you will be
happy with it. I use the less powerful white MB and it works just fine
even Office runs faster via Rosetta than sometimes on my G4.

As far as running hot - well both run hotter than my 17'' PB G4 1.67GHz,
but hey this is Intel and they are always running much more hot than G4
ever were. What I love though is very quiet cooling compared with hust
about any PC laptop that I had my hands on (many).

As for announcements - well Apple is pretty clear about any recalls and
warranty replacements (as any other manufacturer). Otherwise they had
this habit of announcing new products during major shows, but they seem
to be gettung away from that practice. Best is usualy to screen the
rumour sites and see what is the buzz (they are surprisingly accurate).

> This is crazy, though. The thought of actually owning a Mac is
> somewhat unbelieveable. Thanks for any comments!

You will get used to it quite fast and most likely never come back to
Windows.

Jan
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On 2006-05-30 00:20:27 -0400, musiljan.RemoveThis@fastmail.us (Honza) said:

>> I'm looking into buying a Macbook (not pro) for personal and school
>> use. The issues with the "Pro" scared me, though. Would you recommend
>> waiting to see if problems are discovered with the regular Macbook? <snip>
>> ;-) Or is it time to jump on the bandwagon?
>
> I also waited few months before I put in my order for MBP and after
> using is for a few weeks I decided to get also MB almost immediately
> when they came out. Now I have both - one as pretty much desktop
> replacement for ocasional moving around the house (MBP) and MB is for
> pretty much for everything else - daily mails, lugging it around with me
> on business trips to coffee shops, out by the pool, etc.
> Both machines are very good and each has its own purpose (at lest for
> me). If I were to decide again if I shell out the money I would. And did
> I already say that I'm very happy with both ;-). Both are great and for
> what you seem to be looking for the MB is good machine and you will be
> happy with it. I use the less powerful white MB and it works just fine
> even Office runs faster via Rosetta than sometimes on my G4.
>
> As far as running hot - well both run hotter than my 17'' PB G4 1.67GHz,
> but hey this is Intel and they are always running much more hot than G4
> ever were. What I love though is very quiet cooling compared with hust
> about any PC laptop that I had my hands on (many).
> As for announcements - well Apple is pretty clear about any recalls and
> warranty replacements (as any other manufacturer). Otherwise they had
> this habit of announcing new products during major shows, but they seem
> to be gettung away from that practice. Best is usualy to screen the
> rumour sites and see what is the buzz (they are surprisingly accurate).
>
>> This is crazy, though. The thought of actually owning a Mac is
>> somewhat unbelieveable. Thanks for any comments!
>
> You will get used to it quite fast and most likely never come back to
> Windows.
>
> Jan

I'm waiting because Intel is supposed to released their new chips in
July-August and the update to Tiger should not be far behind that,
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On 2006-05-29 15:33:20 -0700, sean.boots.TakeThisOut@gmail.com said:

> I'm looking into buying a Macbook (not pro) for personal and school
> use. The issues with the "Pro" scared me, though. Would you recommend
> waiting to see if problems are discovered with the regular Macbook? Do
> they (Apple) announce when said issues are fixed? (Hardware revisions
> and whatnot.) Are there any announcements or new product releases
> (software notwithstanding) expected from Apple in the next few months?
> ;-) Or is it time to jump on the bandwagon?
>
> This is crazy, though. The thought of actually owning a Mac is
> somewhat unbelieveable. Thanks for any comments!

What about MacBook Pro is scary???

I bought one the first day they became available and it's a great
machine - and I've seen NONE of the anecdotally reported "problems"
cause any real trouble. They exist but are greatly exaggerated.

I run both OSX & Windows XP on mine - it is stable, fast and reliable.....

Yes, it runs hot - so get a cooling pad if you must. Even without one
it works fine....

I've never heard any of the reported "noises" - didn't hear any
"noises" trying out multiple machines at the Apple store and other
outlets...!

Don't believe most of what you see posted in NGs - especially all that
"bad" news....

PC
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Smee <farkoff.DeleteThis@mac.com> wrote:

> I'm waiting because Intel is supposed to released their new chips in
> July-August and the update to Tiger should not be far behind that,

Those chips will be for desktops, not laptops. Don't expect much more
than speed bumps for the laptop line until next year.

As for Leopard (10.5), don't expect any real news (as oppsed to rumors)
regarding a ship date until WWDC in early August. Apple will probably
hold back Leopard until there's been some time to test it thoroughly on
the new 64-bit machines.
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On 2006-05-30, Proconsul <proconsul DeleteThis @cox.net> wrote:
> I've never heard any of the reported "noises" - didn't hear any
> "noises" trying out multiple machines at the Apple store and other
> outlets...!


The noise is real but it's also fairly high pitched, fairly low
intensity, and only occurs under specific circumstances. You'd never
hear it in an Apple store or a *$ or a typical office setting. You
might if you use it at home and your ears still work well with high
frequencies.

I can hear it when I work at home in a very quiet room, but only when
the machine is on, running from the battery, and not doing much. Even
then, one of the three people I demonstrated it to heard nothing,
presumably because he's lost some hearing in that range -- not at all
unusual if you're over 40.

All in all it's not a big deal, and there are hacks to kill this noise
if it bothers you. QuietMPB is one.
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On 2006-05-30 19:17:36 -0700, D P Schreber <schreberdp.TakeThisOut@rayban.net> said:

> On 2006-05-30, Proconsul <proconsul.TakeThisOut@cox.net> wrote:
>> I've never heard any of the reported "noises" - didn't hear any
>> "noises" trying out multiple machines at the Apple store and other
>> outlets...!
>
>
> The noise is real but it's also fairly high pitched, fairly low
> intensity, and only occurs under specific circumstances. You'd never
> hear it in an Apple store or a *$ or a typical office setting. You
> might if you use it at home and your ears still work well with high
> frequencies.
>
> I can hear it when I work at home in a very quiet room, but only when
> the machine is on, running from the battery, and not doing much. Even
> then, one of the three people I demonstrated it to heard nothing,
> presumably because he's lost some hearing in that range -- not at all
> unusual if you're over 40.
>
> All in all it's not a big deal, and there are hacks to kill this noise
> if it bothers you. QuietMPB is one.

I appreciate your input - and while I did say that "nolse" exists, I
also said it's "effect", etc., was greatly exaggerated by most of the
anecdotal reports posted in this and similar venues....

Those who might have a really "noisy" machine can no doubt get it
exchanged by the Apple folks without much of a fuss....

On balance, I maintain that it's not serious enough to prevent anyone
from buying one of these superior machines.....

PC
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In article <2006053009571616807-proconsul@coxnet>,
Proconsul <proconsul.TakeThisOut@cox.net> wrote:

> On 2006-05-29 15:33:20 -0700, sean.boots.TakeThisOut@gmail.com said:
>
> > I'm looking into buying a Macbook (not pro) for personal and school
> > use. The issues with the "Pro" scared me, though. Would you recommend
> > waiting to see if problems are discovered with the regular Macbook? Do
> > they (Apple) announce when said issues are fixed? (Hardware revisions
> > and whatnot.) Are there any announcements or new product releases
> > (software notwithstanding) expected from Apple in the next few months?
> > ;-) Or is it time to jump on the bandwagon?
> >
> > This is crazy, though. The thought of actually owning a Mac is
> > somewhat unbelieveable. Thanks for any comments!
>
> What about MacBook Pro is scary???
>
> I bought one the first day they became available and it's a great
> machine - and I've seen NONE of the anecdotally reported "problems"
> cause any real trouble. They exist but are greatly exaggerated.
>
> I run both OSX & Windows XP on mine - it is stable, fast and reliable.....
>
> Yes, it runs hot - so get a cooling pad if you must. Even without one
> it works fine....
>
> I've never heard any of the reported "noises" - didn't hear any
> "noises" trying out multiple machines at the Apple store and other
> outlets...!
>
> Don't believe most of what you see posted in NGs - especially all that
> "bad" news....

I bought a MacBook Pro in early March. It serves me well.

I saw the MacBook at the new NYC Apple Store on 5th Avenue recently and
it does not look nearly as well built and sturdy as the MacBook Pro.
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On 2006-05-31 05:51:45 -0700, Stan Horwitz <stan.TakeThisOut@temple.edu> said:

> In article <2006053009571616807-proconsul@coxnet>,
> Proconsul <proconsul.TakeThisOut@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> On 2006-05-29 15:33:20 -0700, sean.boots.TakeThisOut@gmail.com said:
>>
>>> I'm looking into buying a Macbook (not pro) for personal and school
>>> use. The issues with the "Pro" scared me, though. Would you recommend
>>> waiting to see if problems are discovered with the regular Macbook? Do
>>> they (Apple) announce when said issues are fixed? (Hardware revisions
>>> and whatnot.) Are there any announcements or new product releases
>>> (software notwithstanding) expected from Apple in the next few months?
>>> ;-) Or is it time to jump on the bandwagon?
>>>
>>> This is crazy, though. The thought of actually owning a Mac is
>>> somewhat unbelieveable. Thanks for any comments!
>>
>> What about MacBook Pro is scary???
>>
>> I bought one the first day they became available and it's a great
>> machine - and I've seen NONE of the anecdotally reported "problems"
>> cause any real trouble. They exist but are greatly exaggerated.
>>
>> I run both OSX & Windows XP on mine - it is stable, fast and reliable.....
>>
>> Yes, it runs hot - so get a cooling pad if you must. Even without one
>> it works fine....
>>
>> I've never heard any of the reported "noises" - didn't hear any
>> "noises" trying out multiple machines at the Apple store and other
>> outlets...!
>>
>> Don't believe most of what you see posted in NGs - especially all that
>> "bad" news....
>
> I bought a MacBook Pro in early March. It serves me well.
>
> I saw the MacBook at the new NYC Apple Store on 5th Avenue recently and
> it does not look nearly as well built and sturdy as the MacBook Pro.

Agreed - but then the iBook wasn't a PowerBook either......:)

The MacBook Pro blows the doors off the MacBooks......:) Video
performance alone is superior, not to mention basic operations. OTOH, I
wish the Pro was as easy to disassemble should one wish to change the
HD as it is in the MacBooks.....

Each series of machines fits it own market......

PC
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Did you check your Macbook to see if the piece of tape was still on it?
If so did that take care of some of the heat problems? Just curious,
thanks.

richard
Honza wrote:
> > I'm looking into buying a Macbook (not pro) for personal and school
> > use. The issues with the "Pro" scared me, though. Would you recommend
> > waiting to see if problems are discovered with the regular Macbook?
> > <snip>
> > ;-) Or is it time to jump on the bandwagon?
>
> I also waited few months before I put in my order for MBP and after
> using is for a few weeks I decided to get also MB almost immediately
> when they came out. Now I have both - one as pretty much desktop
> replacement for ocasional moving around the house (MBP) and MB is for
> pretty much for everything else - daily mails, lugging it around with me
> on business trips to coffee shops, out by the pool, etc.
>
> Both machines are very good and each has its own purpose (at lest for
> me). If I were to decide again if I shell out the money I would. And did
> I already say that I'm very happy with both ;-). Both are great and for
> what you seem to be looking for the MB is good machine and you will be
> happy with it. I use the less powerful white MB and it works just fine
> even Office runs faster via Rosetta than sometimes on my G4.
>
> As far as running hot - well both run hotter than my 17'' PB G4 1.67GHz,
> but hey this is Intel and they are always running much more hot than G4
> ever were. What I love though is very quiet cooling compared with hust
> about any PC laptop that I had my hands on (many).
>
> As for announcements - well Apple is pretty clear about any recalls and
> warranty replacements (as any other manufacturer). Otherwise they had
> this habit of announcing new products during major shows, but they seem
> to be gettung away from that practice. Best is usualy to screen the
> rumour sites and see what is the buzz (they are surprisingly accurate).
>
> > This is crazy, though. The thought of actually owning a Mac is
> > somewhat unbelieveable. Thanks for any comments!
>
> You will get used to it quite fast and most likely never come back to
> Windows.
>
> Jan
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rep <rep523.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:

> Did you check your Macbook to see if the piece of tape was still on it?
> If so did that take care of some of the heat problems? Just curious,
> thanks.

Yeah I did check the MacBook and there was not tape. I guess the one guy
that posted the picture on the web was a lucky winner. There is no
problem with the machine that I'm aware of.
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