CL: "The Portal Issue"

In article <3F9555C2.35154B23.DeleteThis@gemmary.JUNK.com>,
Baff <baff.DeleteThis@gemmary.JUNK.com> wrote:

 > Obviously there is no need for portals to bypass simple difficulties.

What about time-consuming and tedious, albeit easy "difficulties"?

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Hidden <hidden.RemoveThis@noDASHop.com> wrote in message news:<hidden-2AEE7C.12374421102003@localhost>...
 > In article <900f09e.0310211112.75b7ea3.RemoveThis@posting.google.com>,
 > taryncl.RemoveThis@attbi.com (Taryn) wrote:
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  > > Maeght <awessels.RemoveThis@EXPUNGEpacbell.net> wrote in message
  > > news:<awessels-2EA097.07132521102003.RemoveThis@news.supernews.com>...
  > >
   > > > Has anyone interfered ... with Klur's ... use of the portal?
  > >
  > > Yes. After extensive dialogue with Klur, this is clear to me.

non-use or preventing someone else using it are not 'valid' USES of it.


 > Elaborate.

Elaborate, indeed.

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In article <900f09e.0310211112.75b7ea3 DeleteThis @posting.google.com>,
taryncl DeleteThis @attbi.com (Taryn) wrote:

 > Maeght <awessels DeleteThis @EXPUNGEpacbell.net> wrote in message
 > news:<awessels-2EA097.07132521102003 DeleteThis @news.supernews.com>...
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  > > Has anyone interfered ... with Klur's ... use of the portal?
 >
 > Yes. After extensive dialogue with Klur, this is clear to me.

Physically interfered with an announced use of the portal? If so,
'splain please.

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  > > Has anyone interfered ... with Klur's ... use of the portal?
 >
 > Yes. After extensive dialogue with Klur, this is clear to me.
 >
 > Taryn.

Please elaborate.

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Hidden <hidden DeleteThis @noDASHop.com> wrote in message news:<hidden-2AEE7C.12374421102003@localhost>...
 > In article <900f09e.0310211112.75b7ea3 DeleteThis @posting.google.com>,
 > taryncl DeleteThis @attbi.com (Taryn) wrote:
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  > > Maeght <awessels DeleteThis @EXPUNGEpacbell.net> wrote in message
  > > news:<awessels-2EA097.07132521102003 DeleteThis @news.supernews.com>...
  > >
   > > > Has anyone interfered ... with Klur's ... use of the portal?
  > >
  > > Yes. After extensive dialogue with Klur, this is clear to me.
 >
 > Elaborate.

Ok, here goes.

If someone moves a portal to the Trainer's Grotto to enable others to
easily access those trainers, that constitutes a "use". Presumably,
the portal mover feels that they are gaining "something" by such a
placement (why else do all that work).

If someone moves a portal to a Lava Pit to prevent others from
reaching their desired destinations, causing them to fall and almost
certainly depart instead, that also constitutes a "use". Presumably,
the portal mover feels that they are gaining "something" by such a
placement (why else do all that work).

In either case, relocating the portal interferes with said use.

[Note that reducing or preventing loss is equivalent to gaining
"something". Also consider the word "deterence".]

So if a portal is intentionally left somewhere, relocating the portal
interferes with the previous use.

I don't approve of some of Klur's uses of the portal, but I recognize
that he is using them for his own gain. Which is no different than
anyone else.

What makes the portals different from most other discoveries is that
the latter have been generally beneficial. An expectation we became
addicted to.

The world is changing.

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Taryn wrote:

 > Just pointing out, Baff, I don't fit into either of your two groups.

I'm sure quite a few people don't fit into either group. Those are just the 2 groups that
are conflicting the most over the portals.

Group C is sitting back enjoying the show.

Group D just wishes that the portals would drop off the face of Puddleby so that they would
never have to hear about them again.

Group E is in the middle, agreeing with some parts of Groups A & B.

Group F wants them tied to the Cloud for an exit.

Group G wants to figure out what the portals are really about.
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..
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Group Z couldn't care less what happens with the portals.

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Hidden wrote:

 > In article <3F9555C2.35154B23 RemoveThis @gemmary.JUNK.com>,
 > Baff <baff RemoveThis @gemmary.JUNK.com> wrote:
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  > > Obviously there is no need for portals to bypass simple difficulties.
 >
 > What about time-consuming and tedious, albeit easy "difficulties"?

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In article <3F960D7C.35EA90BD.RemoveThis@gemmary.JUNK.com>,
Baff <baff.RemoveThis@gemmary.JUNK.com> wrote:

 > Hidden wrote:
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  > > In article <3F9555C2.35154B23.RemoveThis@gemmary.JUNK.com>,
  > > Baff <baff.RemoveThis@gemmary.JUNK.com> wrote:
  > >
   > > > Obviously there is no need for portals to bypass simple difficulties.
  > >
  > > What about time-consuming and tedious, albeit easy "difficulties"?
 >
 > Such as?

Hatred's Hollow, for example.

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Connie Crete <ksevens DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote:

 > It be neutral territory and tha portals speeds rescues. KI be
 > territory folks fresh off tha boat don't need ta be goin, yet havin
 > one end o tha portal in town implies it be safeish.

To a worthless place that many of us slaughter.

To easy is just as much of a problem as to hard.

Michael

 > Search "expanding player base" and think of how much fun it would be
 > if within your 1 mo trial you had to find 10k for a lyfe cure and how
 > likely you would be to stay in the lands. After investing enough time
 > to make it to 2* and getting lyfed, one is less likely to go to either
 > Resettus or PayPal.

A cure is almost fucking free. Every single one of the parts goes for
less than 100c last I heard.

If newbies are gettings SSed handed to them I dont think one would have
a hard time finding the cure.

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Taryn <taryncl RemoveThis @attbi.com> wrote:

  > > Has anyone interfered ... with Klur's ... use of the portal?
 >
 > Yes. After extensive dialogue with Klur, this is clear to me.
 >
 > Taryn.

Heh, you have been sucked.

Once you have been around a while you will learn what PM is like. You
cant possible be this gulibile.

On another note I have a bridge for sale.

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Baff <baff.DeleteThis@gemmary.JUNK.com> wrote:


 > Whew, I guess its a good thing that I am a long ways away from 2500 ranks!
 >
 > Thanks for bringing that up though. All areas naturally become easier over
 > time. If someone is having a hard time with an area, they only need to wait a
 > few months and come back when they are stronger and their chances will be
 > greatly increased. Obviously there is no need for portals to bypass simple
 > difficulties.
 >
 > Excellent point Lex, thanks!
 >
 > Baff

Of course, since none of us have time machines there is still that
little problem of how long all these fucking god damn "little
challanges" take.

I can get a party off KI in my fucking sleep. Thats part of why its
SUCH a fucking pain in the ass. But it still takes about a half hour
thats added to every trip. And the huge pain in the ass of devoting 1/3
of my inventory to KI shit sucks too.

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Baff <baff.RemoveThis@gemmary.JUNK.com> wrote:

 > Group B wishes to preserve that sense of daring adventure as illustrated in
 > the story that Joe wrote (in the CL manual).

Very biased view:
So group B and only group B can enjoy these places.

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In article <900f09e.0310211112.75b7ea3.TakeThisOut@posting.google.com>,
taryncl.TakeThisOut@attbi.com (Taryn) wrote:

 > Maeght <awessels.TakeThisOut@EXPUNGEpacbell.net> wrote in message
 > news:<awessels-2EA097.07132521102003.TakeThisOut@news.supernews.com>...
 >
  > > Has anyone interfered ... with Klur's ... use of the portal?
 >
 > Yes. After extensive dialogue with Klur, this is clear to me.
 >
 > Taryn.

Well, Klur's viewpoint is one most appropriately called Luddite
<http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=luddite>.

I find it difficult to believe that anyone with some degree of
intelligence can be so closed minded. The universe of CL isn't static.
The way you did things in the past isn't necessarily the way they will
be done in the future and there is NO evidence that the "game" will be
any worse for the wear if the portals are used to shortcut all that crap
you had to go through,

I recall that once upon a time people had to gang together and attack
cave bear for a place to live...boy, what ARE we thinking having premade
housing!! I can't imagine all the horrible ways I'm not living because I
have a car to get from here to yonder instead of that tried and true
shoe leather method that my ancestors used! Go Luddites!

Sheesh,

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