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Boyd Michelle Bot

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 12:13 am
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Just what are the actual strengths of each government? The civlopedia
doesn't give much detail about what they do-- IE, how bad is
"problematic" corruption, or how likely is it for republics and
democracies to have citizens protesting war?

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Richard P. Grant1

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 12:14 pm
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In article <200308272113271670128.RemoveThis@216.158.68.85.dragonbbs.com>,
mbottorff.RemoveThis@mac.com (Boyd & Michelle Bottorff) wrote:

 > Just what are the actual strengths of each government? The civlopedia
 > doesn't give much detail about what they do-- IE, how bad is
 > "problematic" corruption, or how likely is it for republics and
 > democracies to have citizens protesting war?

Not sure of the relation between the latter, but I always play democracy
as soon as I can, and if I've got courthouses, and latterly police
stations and Women's Suffrage it's not too bad fighting an extended war.
I try and make sure I take the enemy's luxuries early on (if I don't
have them from anywhere else), because that helps a lot. Conquered
cities seem to resent it for a long time, though.

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Matt McLeod

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 12:15 pm
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In <rpg14-287258.09145902092003.TakeThisOut@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>, Richard P. Grant wrote:
 > Not sure of the relation between the latter, but I always play democracy
 > as soon as I can,

I have to admit that I've yet to see much benefit from Democracy
over Republic. Usually when I make the switch my costs go *way*
up, revenues fall, and things don't really swing back into the
same position as Republic for quite a while.

With the earlier games, though, Democracy was pretty much the
obvious route to go, and gearing your research towards getting it
at the earliest possible time was a winning strategy.

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 12:15 pm
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in article slrnbl8kv8.fhq.matt DeleteThis @audrey.boggle.org, Matt McLeod at
matt DeleteThis @boggle.org wrote on 9/2/03 1:25 AM:

 > Subtlety: the art of saying what you want to say and getting out of range
 > before it is understood.

Nice sig.

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Richard P. Grant1

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 1:06 pm
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In article <slrnbl8kv8.fhq.matt DeleteThis @audrey.boggle.org>,
Matt McLeod <matt DeleteThis @boggle.org> wrote:

 > I have to admit that I've yet to see much benefit from Democracy
 > over Republic. Usually when I make the switch my costs go *way*
 > up, revenues fall, and things don't really swing back into the
 > same position as Republic for quite a while.

Hmm. I find corruption and waste much reduced in democracy wrt republic
- except at distances far from a palace. People also seem happier - I
can rarely get away with < 20% luxury as a republic; I can often cut it
to zero under democracy - , and more productive, too. I must admit I
haven't checked the costs on the balance sheet, but keeping all other
things equal I have more net income after the switch.

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 1:06 pm
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In <rpg14-AD5F2B.10063402092003 DeleteThis @pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>, Richard P. Grant wrote:
 > Hmm. I find corruption and waste much reduced in democracy wrt republic
 > - except at distances far from a palace. People also seem happier - I
 > can rarely get away with < 20% luxury as a republic;

I rarely put luxuries above 0%, and instead try to trade for as many
luxury goods as I can. That seems to do the trick, though I'm not
generally playing at the highest level.

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2003 1:16 pm
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In article <slrnbl8kv8.fhq.matt DeleteThis @audrey.boggle.org>,
Matt McLeod <matt DeleteThis @boggle.org> wrote:

 > I have to admit that I've yet to see much benefit from Democracy
 > over Republic. Usually when I make the switch my costs go *way*
 > up, revenues fall, and things don't really swing back into the
 > same position as Republic for quite a while.

Your workers get a boost with Democracy over Republic, though.

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