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Since: Jan 11, 2008
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(Msg. 31) Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:22 am
Post subject: Re: Detect iPod after Hard Eject [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Jan 17, 4:19 pm, Jolly Roger <jollyro... DeleteThis @pobox.com> wrote:
> In article <13ov47uavg38... DeleteThis @corp.supernews.com>,
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> "G.T." <getne... DeleteThis @dslextreme.com> wrote:
> > Jolly Roger wrote:
> > > In article <13ott5e321s8... DeleteThis @corp.supernews.com>,
> > > "G.T." <getne... DeleteThis @dslextreme.com> wrote:
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> > >> Now you're asking for way too much. Closing iTunes and restarting it is
> > >> faster than any of the ideas you're coming up with. It's quick and
> > >> easy. You're being absurd now. Physical limitations are one thing but
> > >> if you're complaining about clicking twice to solve your problem than
> > >> you're just trolling.
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> > >> Oh, and relaunching Finder doesn't do anything. Quitting and restarting
> > >> iTunes does the job, though.
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> > > I disagree. If iTunes can rescan the USB bus, then it's perfectly
> > > reasonable to think it may be possible to write a simple piece of
> > > software that would do the same thing without the overhead of launching
> > > iTunes. Such a piece of software would probably launch much faster than
> > > iTunes, so I can see this being desirable for someone with physical
> > > limitations such as his.
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> > So he can avoid a few seconds while waiting for iTunes to restart? His
> > physical limitations prevent him from waiting for iTunes to restart?
>
> You're suggesting anyone who wishes to save a couple seconds numerous
> times a day is being unreasonable?
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> JR
Thanks for the suggestions, I will pursue them and post back results.
We all want our computers to do things as elegantly and quickly as
possibly but we also have to accept the fact that there are
limitations within all applications; both technical and non-technical
(all software companies have to decide what issues/bugs to tackle and
in what order).
My Cannon camera S/W has a feature to 'find' the camera after I have
'ejected', so what I ask is certainly possible. I fully understand
that Apple has other more important issues (bugs) to tackle especially
since there are a few workarounds for this issue. However, I have no
doubt this feature will eventually be added to iTunes (and other apps
using USB devices.
I think it is fair to say that cycling iTunes is NOT an elegant
solution. It is like rebooting your computer after installing an
application. This use to be standard practice a while back and over
time less and less apps need you to cycle the OS. Even Windows update
has overcome that inconvenience.
Also remember that what is inconvenient and annoying to one person may
not bother someone else (might even be considered a plus) and vis-a-
versa. We are all different and that makes for a more interesting
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(Msg. 32) Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 10:30 am
Post subject: Re: Detect iPod after Hard Eject [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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In article
<67fa42fb-bf52-4781-a0d2-79b6e6d1cb74.RemoveThis@21g2000hsj.googlegroups.com>,
livetohike <moormansd.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think it is fair to say that cycling iTunes is NOT an elegant
> solution. It is like rebooting your computer after installing an
> application. This use to be standard practice a while back and over
> time less and less apps need you to cycle the OS. Even Windows update
> has overcome that inconvenience.
Like I said: ask in comp.sys.mac.programmer.help. Someone may write a
little one-off app for you just out of curiosity!
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Since: Jun 29, 2005
Posts: 78
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(Msg. 33) Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 2:29 pm
Post subject: Re: Detect iPod after Hard Eject [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Tom Stiller wrote:
> In article <13p2ckumcllv62.DeleteThis@corp.supernews.com>,
> Jeff Wiseman <throwawayacct225.DeleteThis@ALLTHESPAMearthlink.net> wrote:
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>>livetohike wrote:
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>><<stuff deleted>>
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>>>I suspect there is some S/W out there that forces the OS to look for
>>>USB devices, so I will try that route. In the meantime I have noticed
>>>that you don't have to unplug the iPod completely and you don't have
>>>to wait 2 sec. I just pinch and 'jiggle' a little to hear that sweet
>>>little 'ding' sound that tells me iTunes has found the iPod.
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>>I don't have one of my kid's iPods here at the moment to try
>>this, but doesn't Disk Utility show the presence of mountable
>>items that are unmounted? You can select the item you want and
>>then select mount. By this method you can remount hard drives
>>that have been "ejected". I wonder if it's possible to do the
>>same with a USB device like the iPod...
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> It depends on how the volume is unmounted. If you select the _device_
> and unmount it, it is removed from Disk Utility's list of available
> devices. Dismounting an iPod from within iTunes seems to have he same
> effect.
Thanks for that info. Makes sense. Usually my kids grab the iPod
icon on the desktop and drag it to the trash. I wonder if how you
unmount it could make a difference for the OP's purposes, or if
it always unmounts the same way. I can't check this because the
iPods in question are a ways from here (like 1100 miles at
present :-)
It still seems though that mounting and unmounting devices is
more an OS thing than something that might be specific to an
application (e.g. iTunes)
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Jeff Wiseman
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Since: Mar 28, 2004
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(Msg. 34) Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 9:21 pm
Post subject: Re: Detect iPod after Hard Eject [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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livetohike wrote:
> On Jan 17, 4:19 pm, Jolly Roger <jollyro....TakeThisOut@pobox.com> wrote:
>> In article <13ov47uavg38....TakeThisOut@corp.supernews.com>,
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>> "G.T." <getne....TakeThisOut@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>> Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>> In article <13ott5e321s8....TakeThisOut@corp.supernews.com>,
>>>> "G.T." <getne....TakeThisOut@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>>>> Now you're asking for way too much. Closing iTunes and restarting it is
>>>>> faster than any of the ideas you're coming up with. It's quick and
>>>>> easy. You're being absurd now. Physical limitations are one thing but
>>>>> if you're complaining about clicking twice to solve your problem than
>>>>> you're just trolling.
>>>>> Oh, and relaunching Finder doesn't do anything. Quitting and restarting
>>>>> iTunes does the job, though.
>>>> I disagree. If iTunes can rescan the USB bus, then it's perfectly
>>>> reasonable to think it may be possible to write a simple piece of
>>>> software that would do the same thing without the overhead of launching
>>>> iTunes. Such a piece of software would probably launch much faster than
>>>> iTunes, so I can see this being desirable for someone with physical
>>>> limitations such as his.
>>> So he can avoid a few seconds while waiting for iTunes to restart? His
>>> physical limitations prevent him from waiting for iTunes to restart?
>> You're suggesting anyone who wishes to save a couple seconds numerous
>> times a day is being unreasonable?
>>
>> --
>> Note: Please send all responses to the relevant news group. If you
>> must contact me through e-mail, let me know when you send email to
>> this address so that your email doesn't get eaten by my SPAM filter.
>>
>> JR
>
> Thanks for the suggestions, I will pursue them and post back results.
>
> We all want our computers to do things as elegantly and quickly as
> possibly but we also have to accept the fact that there are
> limitations within all applications; both technical and non-technical
> (all software companies have to decide what issues/bugs to tackle and
> in what order).
>
> My Cannon camera S/W has a feature to 'find' the camera after I have
> 'ejected', so what I ask is certainly possible. I fully understand
> that Apple has other more important issues (bugs) to tackle especially
> since there are a few workarounds for this issue. However, I have no
> doubt this feature will eventually be added to iTunes (and other apps
> using USB devices.
>
> I think it is fair to say that cycling iTunes is NOT an elegant
> solution.
You asked for a solution that would let you avoid unplugging and
plugging your iPod. There it is. It may not be elegant but it can be
done RIGHT NOW. No waiting for Apple to add it as a feature to iTunes,
no waiting for some developer to create a plugin for iTunes, no waiting
for someone to write some bloated little piece of software.
>
> Also remember that what is inconvenient and annoying to one person may
> not bother someone else (might even be considered a plus) and vis-a-
> versa. We are all different and that makes for a more interesting
> world.
You're right. And restarting iTunes is the least of my worries in the
big picture or even limiting my worries to computers.
Greg >> Stay informed about: Detect iPod after Hard Eject |
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(Msg. 35) Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 9:25 pm
Post subject: Re: Detect iPod after Hard Eject [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Jolly Roger wrote:
> In article <13ov47uavg38be3 RemoveThis @corp.supernews.com>,
> "G.T." <getnews1 RemoveThis @dslextreme.com> wrote:
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>> Jolly Roger wrote:
>>> In article <13ott5e321s851a RemoveThis @corp.supernews.com>,
>>> "G.T." <getnews1 RemoveThis @dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Now you're asking for way too much. Closing iTunes and restarting it is
>>>> faster than any of the ideas you're coming up with. It's quick and
>>>> easy. You're being absurd now. Physical limitations are one thing but
>>>> if you're complaining about clicking twice to solve your problem than
>>>> you're just trolling.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, and relaunching Finder doesn't do anything. Quitting and restarting
>>>> iTunes does the job, though.
>>> I disagree. If iTunes can rescan the USB bus, then it's perfectly
>>> reasonable to think it may be possible to write a simple piece of
>>> software that would do the same thing without the overhead of launching
>>> iTunes. Such a piece of software would probably launch much faster than
>>> iTunes, so I can see this being desirable for someone with physical
>>> limitations such as his.
>> So he can avoid a few seconds while waiting for iTunes to restart? His
>> physical limitations prevent him from waiting for iTunes to restart?
>
> You're suggesting anyone who wishes to save a couple seconds numerous
> times a day is being unreasonable?
>
He's accidentally ejecting his iPod numerous times a day?
Greg >> Stay informed about: Detect iPod after Hard Eject |
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(Msg. 36) Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 7:52 am
Post subject: Re: Detect iPod after Hard Eject [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 21:21:31 -0800, "G.T." <getnews1.RemoveThis@dslextreme.com>
wrote:
>You asked for a solution that would let you avoid unplugging and
>plugging your iPod. There it is. It may not be elegant but it can be
>done RIGHT NOW. No waiting for Apple to add it as a feature to iTunes,
>no waiting for some developer to create a plugin for iTunes, no waiting
>for someone to write some bloated little piece of software.
He also gave a reason for not wanting to unplug it - which is why I
suggested a docking station. Mine is also a powered USB hub, is very
convenient, and solves his reason for not wanting to play with plugs. >> Stay informed about: Detect iPod after Hard Eject |
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(Msg. 37) Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:49 am
Post subject: Re: Detect iPod after Hard Eject [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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In article
<db70169e-c8b4-495f-8cd8-1e6947195c58 RemoveThis @k2g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
livetohike <moormansd RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> There has got to be a way for iTunes to "find" your iPod after you
> eject it (via iTunes) w/o having to disconnect/reconnect it.
Since the topic promptly descended into flames and semantics, I will not read
to the end. If this was already (eventually) revealed, I apologize for
re-posting it: Quit iTunes and restart.
I have a 3G and 5.5G iPod both connected AND set for disk use and restarting
iTunes always wakes them and mounts them. Good luck.
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:)
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(Msg. 38) Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 2:33 pm
Post subject: Re: Detect iPod after Hard Eject [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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