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marckatsambis

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Since: Jul 10, 2007
Posts: 4



(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:37 pm
Post subject: External HD only showing on one Mac
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Hi all,

I curently own a G4 PowerbBook (OS 10.4.10) and just bought a G5 Mac
Pro (OS 10.4.10). I also have a Macpower IceCube 3.5" 320GB HD with 2
S400 Firewire ports.

Currently the Ex HD has no problems showing up on my PowerBook (as it
always has). But when connected to both machines it will only show up
on one or the other (depending on which machine detects it first).
I've called Apple Support, but the only thing they could suggest doing
was reformatting the Ex HD from a FAT 32 file system to Mac Extended
(Journaled) file system. So I tried that, and still no luck - then
they suggested it must be an issue with the thrid party product seeing
that both machines can physically recognise the drive. And from what I
can telll MacPower doesnt have any support relating to this particular
drive.

Looking in System profiler on both machines - They both claim to have
an OXFORD IDE Device which I can only assume is the HD.

Does anyone know whats going on or how I can fix this? I figure if
there are 2 firewire ports, I should be able to share the drive on 2
machines... correct?

Here are my specs for both machines:

G4 Powerbook
Machine Name: PowerBook G4 15"
Machine Model: PowerBook5,8
CPU Type: PowerPC G4 (1.5)
Number Of CPUs: 1
CPU Speed: 1.67 GHz
L2 Cache (per CPU): 512 KB
Memory: 1 GB
Bus Speed: 167 MHz
Boot ROM Version: 4.9.5f3
Serial Number:
Sudden Motion Sensor:
State: Enabled

FireWire Bus:

Maximum Speed: Up to 800 Mb/sec

Unknown Device:

Manufacturer: Unknown
Model: Unknown Device
Maximum Speed: Up to 800 Mb/sec
Connection Speed: Unknown

Unknown Device:

Manufacturer: Unknown
Model: Unknown Device
Maximum Speed: Up to 800 Mb/sec
Connection Speed: Unknown

Unknown Device:

Manufacturer: Unknown
Model: Unknown Device
Maximum Speed: Up to 400 Mb/sec
Connection Speed: Up to 400 Mb/sec

OXFORD IDE Device 1:

Manufacturer: Macpower
Model: 0x0
GUID: 0x1D202E0102066
Maximum Speed: Up to 400 Mb/sec
Connection Speed: Up to 400 Mb/sec
Sub-units:
OXFORD IDE Device 1 Unit:
Unit Software Version: 0x10483
Unit Spec ID: 0x609E
Firmware Revision: 0x102
Product Revision Level: 08.0
Sub-units:
OXFORD IDE Device 1 SBP-LUN:
Capacity: 298.09 GB
Removable Media: Yes
BSD Name: disk1
OS9 Drivers: Yes
S.M.A.R.T. status: Not Supported
Volumes:
Koodoz:
Capacity: 297.96 GB
Available: 282.77 GB
Writable: Yes
File System: Journaled HFS+
BSD Name: disk1s10
Mount Point: /Volumes/Koodoz

G5 MacPro
Model Name: Mac Pro
Model Identifier: MacPro1,1
Processor Name: Dual-Core Intel Xeon
Processor Speed: 2.66 GHz
Number Of Processors: 2
Total Number Of Cores: 4
L2 Cache (per processor): 4 MB
Memory: 2 GB
Bus Speed: 1.33 GHz
Boot ROM Version: MP11.005C.B04
SMC Version: 1.7f8

FireWire Bus:

Maximum Speed: Up to 800 Mb/sec

Built-in Hub:

Manufacturer: Unknown
Model: Unknown Device
Maximum Speed: Up to 800 Mb/sec
Connection Speed: Unknown

Unknown Device:

Manufacturer: Unknown
Model: Unknown Device
Maximum Speed: Up to 400 Mb/sec
Connection Speed: Unknown

OXFORD IDE Device 1:

Manufacturer: Macpower
Model: 0x0
GUID: 0x1D202E0102066
Maximum Speed: Up to 400 Mb/sec
Connection Speed: Up to 400 Mb/sec
Sub-units:
OXFORD IDE Device 1 Unit:
Unit Software Version: 0x10483
Unit Spec ID: 0x609E
Firmware Revision: 0x102
Sub-units:
OXFORD IDE Device 1 SBP-LUN:

Macintosh:

Manufacturer: Apple Computer, Inc.
Model: 0xA
GUID: 0x1451FFFE1CD66A
Maximum Speed: Up to 800 Mb/sec
Connection Speed: Up to 400 Mb/sec
Sub-units:
Macintosh Unit:
Unit Software Version: 0x1
Unit Spec ID: 0x5E
Macintosh Unit:
Unit Software Version: 0x2
Unit Spec ID: 0x5E

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Kit2

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Since: Oct 23, 2004
Posts: 37



(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:16 pm
Post subject: Re: External HD only showing on one Mac [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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In article ,
wrote:

> Does anyone know whats going on or how I can fix this? I figure if
> there are 2 firewire ports, I should be able to share the drive on 2
> machines... correct?

No.
Incorrect.
I'm surprised that Apple didn't tell you that.

Kit

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Toddhome

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Since: Aug 13, 2007
Posts: 4



(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 12:47 am
Post subject: Re: External HD only showing on one Mac [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Jul 10, 6:37 am, wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I curently own a G4 PowerbBook (OS 10.4.10) and just bought a G5 Mac
> Pro (OS 10.4.10). I also have a Macpower IceCube 3.5" 320GB HD with 2
> S400 Firewire ports.
>
> Currently the Ex HD has no problems showing up on my PowerBook (as it
> always has). But when connected to both machines it will only show up
> on one or the other (depending on which machine detects it first).
> I've called Apple Support, but the only thing they could suggest doing
> was reformatting the Ex HD from a FAT 32 file system to Mac Extended
> (Journaled) file system. So I tried that, and still no luck - then
> they suggested it must be an issue with the thrid party product seeing
> that both machines can physically recognise the drive. And from what I
> can telll MacPower doesnt have any support relating to this particular
> drive.
>
> Looking in System profiler on both machines - They both claim to have
> an OXFORD IDE Device which I can only assume is the HD.
>
> Does anyone know whats going on or how I can fix this? I figure if
> there are 2 firewire ports, I should be able to share the drive on 2
> machines... correct?

You WILL burn your firewire ports out on one machine or another if you
continue this!

Please only one,(1) CPU at a time connected to **up-to** 63 firewire
devices.

T.
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Clark Martin

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Since: Jul 27, 2003
Posts: 278



(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 6:11 pm
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In article ,
Toddhome wrote:

> On Jul 10, 6:37 am, wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I curently own a G4 PowerbBook (OS 10.4.10) and just bought a G5 Mac
> > Pro (OS 10.4.10). I also have a Macpower IceCube 3.5" 320GB HD with 2
> > S400 Firewire ports.
> >
> > Currently the Ex HD has no problems showing up on my PowerBook (as it
> > always has). But when connected to both machines it will only show up
> > on one or the other (depending on which machine detects it first).
> > I've called Apple Support, but the only thing they could suggest doing
> > was reformatting the Ex HD from a FAT 32 file system to Mac Extended
> > (Journaled) file system. So I tried that, and still no luck - then
> > they suggested it must be an issue with the thrid party product seeing
> > that both machines can physically recognise the drive. And from what I
> > can telll MacPower doesnt have any support relating to this particular
> > drive.
> >
> > Looking in System profiler on both machines - They both claim to have
> > an OXFORD IDE Device which I can only assume is the HD.
> >
> > Does anyone know whats going on or how I can fix this? I figure if
> > there are 2 firewire ports, I should be able to share the drive on 2
> > machines... correct?

Wrong. While connecting multiple computers together won't hurt the
hardware, the operating system doesn't support sharing devices at this
level. It would complicate the OS and few people would ever need it.

It's much simpler to network the computers together and share the disks
that way.

It is possible to network the two computers together using FireWire and
share the disk that way. It should be faster than 100BaseTX but not a
lot faster since the disk is on the same Firewire.

I don't know how the computers decide who has access to the HD. It's
likely first come first serve.

The point of 2 firewire ports is to allow you to daisy chain another
firewire device, HD, CD-ROM, etc.

Higher end video hardware uses Firewire to link equipment together and
as far as I know that includes having multiple devices accessing
harddrives. But this equipment is designed for multiple masters.

>
> You WILL burn your firewire ports out on one machine or another if you
> continue this!
>

Nope. Both Target Disk mode and Firewire networking involve multiple
computers connected via Firewire. Try a google search on "firewire
multiple computers".


> Please only one,(1) CPU at a time connected to **up-to** 63 firewire
> devices.
>
> T.

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Clark Martin
Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting

"I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway"
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