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Joerg Mueller

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 6:00 am
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Hallo,

is there any Freeware to defrag.
Intel IMac, Mac OS 10.5.2

Joerg

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Michael Vilain

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In article <vilain-3739BC.00284416022008.RemoveThis@comcast.dca.giganews.com>, Michael Vilain <vilain.RemoveThis@NOspamcop.net> wrote: > If you really want to defragment the volume, back it up to another disk > or to tape, format the volume, and restore it. That's free. All you > need is the backup medium. And when you are done, you get to keep the backup disk for something else. Like, for example, having a back up. If anyone found this a useful contribution, please send $10 US. -- dorayme >> Stay informed about: Freeware defrag Software

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 10:34 am Post subject: Re: Freeware defrag Software [Login to view extended thread Info.] Imported from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:31 am Post subject: Re: Freeware defrag Software [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

In article <47b705aa$0$2982$ba624c82@nntp06.dk.telia.net>, Erik Richard Sørensen <NOSPAM RemoveThis @NOSPAM.dk> wrote: > Palle Jensen wrote: > > On 2008-02-16 08:26:02 +0100, Joerg Mueller > > <JoergSO.Mueller RemoveThis @t-online.de> said: > > > >> is there any Freeware to defrag. > >> Intel IMac, Mac OS 10.5.2 > > > > As far as I am told, MacOS X defrags itself on the fly, and there > > shouldn't be any reason to run 3'rd part software? > > Yeah, - so we're told, but it isn't so in 'real life'. It is correct > that OS X needs less defragmenting than earlier OS'es... I think Apple knows more about 'real life' usage of Mac OS X than you. And here's what Apple says about it: "Do I need to optimize? You probably won't need to optimize at all if you use Mac OS X. " Read more here: <http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=25668> -- Note: Please send all responses to the relevant news group. If you must contact me through e-mail, let me know when you send email to this address so that your email doesn't get eaten by my SPAM filter. JR >> Stay informed about: Freeware defrag Software

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In article <fp63ke$3nf$03$1@news.t-online.com>, Joerg Mueller <JoergSO.Mueller RemoveThis @t-online.de> wrote: > is there any Freeware to defrag. > Intel IMac, Mac OS 10.5.2 Not necessary: Apple says: "Do I need to optimize? You probably won't need to optimize at all if you use Mac OS X. " Read more here: <http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=25668> -- Note: Please send all responses to the relevant news group. If you must contact me through e-mail, let me know when you send email to this address so that your email doesn't get eaten by my SPAM filter. JR >> Stay informed about: Freeware defrag Software

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 12:37 pm Post subject: Re: Freeware defrag Software [Login to view extended thread Info.] Imported from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 2:40 pm Post subject: Re: Freeware defrag Software [Login to view extended thread Info.] Imported from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

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Jolly Roger <jollyroger.RemoveThis@pobox.com> wrote: > I think Apple knows more about 'real life' usage of Mac OS X than you. I guess you're not familiar with our old friend, Erik. His 'real life' Macintosh experiences are frequently quite different than everyone else's. -- <http://designsbymike.net/shop/mac.cgi> Mac and geek T-shirts & gifts <http://designsbymike.net/shop/musings.cgi> Muckraking T-shirts <http://designsbymike.net/shop/prius.cgi> Prius shirts/bumper stickers <http://bogart-tribute.net> Tribute to Humphrey Bogart >> Stay informed about: Freeware defrag Software

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 3:57 pm Post subject: Re: Freeware defrag Software [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Palle Jensen <laboratoriexGEORGE.W.BUSH RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote: > As far as I am told, MacOS X defrags itself on the fly, and there > shouldn't be any reason to run 3'rd part software? The only active defragmenting that OS X does is "hot file adaptive clustering" on the startup volume. Other volumes on OS X systems may become more fragmented over time. To defragment them in place, you'll have to use third-party software. Whether there's "any reason" to do so depends on the situation. Defragmenting may be necessary before doing a live disk repartition, and it may speed up the opening of very large files. Otherwise, it's generally not worth the cost of the software or the added wear and tear on the drive. >> Stay informed about: Freeware defrag Software

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:08 pm Post subject: Re: Freeware defrag Software [Login to view extended thread Info.] Imported from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

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Megadave <megadethguy.RemoveThis@invalidgmail.domaincom> wrote: > Personally.. my take is only defrag if you're too stupid to understand > that you'll probably wear the drive out that much faster. I don't think there's any good reason to defrag, but I doubt that doing it occasionally is going to cause one's drive to die prematurely. -- <http://designsbymike.net/shop/mac.cgi> Mac and geek T-shirts & gifts <http://designsbymike.net/shop/musings.cgi> Muckraking T-shirts <http://designsbymike.net/shop/prius.cgi> Prius shirts/bumper stickers <http://bogart-tribute.net> Tribute to Humphrey Bogart >> Stay informed about: Freeware defrag Software

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Erik Richard Sørensen <NOSPAM DeleteThis @NOSPAM.dk> wrote: > > Yes, it is so in 'real life'. But you consistently demonstrate a > > disconnect from 'real life'. > > so you say, but I can see that the wolves are out of their cages again... Hey, this is all about getting accurate information to those who need it. What do want us to do, ignore your posts and let naive readers discover the hard way that what you say happens to you is often different than what happens to everyone else? -- <http://designsbymike.net/shop/mac.cgi> Mac and geek T-shirts & gifts <http://designsbymike.net/shop/musings.cgi> Muckraking T-shirts <http://designsbymike.net/shop/prius.cgi> Prius shirts/bumper stickers <http://bogart-tribute.net> Tribute to Humphrey Bogart >> Stay informed about: Freeware defrag Software

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