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(Msg. 31) Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:42 pm
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In article
<1icgvgh.zoxcjuek45dnN%mikePOST@TOGROUPmacconsult.com>,
mikePOST DeleteThis @TOGROUPmacconsult.com (Mike Rosenberg) wrote:
> Erik Richard Sørensen <NOSPAM DeleteThis @NOSPAM.dk> wrote:
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> > what Mike forgets to say that what I wrote was that some specific
> > versions of older Photoshop Elements cannot run on OS X. I wrote nothing
> > about the newer oS X savvy versions!
>
> Yes, I did leave out that you specifically referred to PE 2.0. Sorry
> for the omission. Anyway, you incorrectly stated that PE 2.0 does not
> run natively in OS X when, in fact, it does. Mind you, it's not that
> you made such a mistake in the first place. We all make mistakes, as I
> myself have demonstrated in my prior post. However, when you were
> informed back then of your mistake, you stuck by it.
Leave the guy alone, what you all don't understand is that very
full hard disks can make odd things happen. I have seen a full HD
talk. Yup! Talk! It was not a groan or anything emotional like "O
woe is me! I am so full!" No. It was a case in March 4 of 1997,
the disk simply exclaimed from its case in a clear and calm voice
in English, "Excuse me, excuse me, I am too full to think at
all." That was it.
Look, its a bit like the claim that the laws of physics in the
very very early universe did not apply as they do now. You are
too literal and technical. You simply cannot accept the
mysterious, the ineffable, the wondrous. Stop fighting the 'other
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(Msg. 32) Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:42 pm
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dorayme <doraymeRidThis.DeleteThis@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> Look, its a bit like the claim that the laws of physics in the
> very very early universe did not apply as they do now. You are
> too literal and technical. You simply cannot accept the
> mysterious, the ineffable, the wondrous.
Point taken.
I'll help find it and see that it's returned to you.
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(Msg. 33) Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:42 pm
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(Msg. 34) Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:42 pm
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In article <2008021719180764440-pbrazee@maccom>,
Howard Brazee <pbrazee.RemoveThis@mac.com> wrote:
> On 2008-02-16 21:10:23 -0700, dorayme <doraymeRidThis.RemoveThis@optusnet.com.au> said:
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> > For some work, like where large continuous space is needed,
> > whatever it takes to get it, is not an unneeded thing. For
> > example, a large chunk of scratch for heavy work in Photoshop
> > with big files. So I support Erik on this. I have no particular
> > views on how to get this space.
> >
> > The technique of backing up and restoring seems good. I often
> > just wipe a spare disk clean with disk utility, reformat it, I
> > know it is clean then. For temporary work anyway.
>
> That might be a good reason to partition a work area for that kind of use.
That, in fact, is what I do.
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(Msg. 35) Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:33 am
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On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 19:41:42 +0100, Erik Richard Sørensen
<NOSPAM.RemoveThis@NOSPAM.dk> wrote:
>Nope, IF the filesystem is broke, the only things that really can help=20
>is either DiskWarrior or a reformatting and reinstallation of=20
>everything. - But if that one time out of maybe one thousand can save=20
>very valuable data, it's though worth trying it before doing other more=20
>radical things.
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(Msg. 36) Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:59 am
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On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 00:30:40 +0000, Mike Rosenberg wrote
(in article <1icgxwm.1pka1r51l7l7yxN%mikePOST@TOGROUPmacconsult.com>):
> Erik Richard Sørensen <NOSPAM RemoveThis @NOSPAM.dk> wrote:
>
>>> However, when you were
>>> informed back then of your mistake, you stuck by it.
>>
>> And I'll stick to it. I've just tried to install PhE 2.0 from a third
>> original CD on an older powerMac Dual G4/500 running all the latest in
>> OS x 10.4.11... PhE 2.0 WILLNOT install on OS X!!! - AND - i've also
>> tried this tird Cd on my own MacPro running both 10.4.11 and 10.5.2 -
>> PhE 2.0 WILLNOT install!!!
>
> Once again, you're taking the fact that YOU are incapable of doing
> something and extrapolating from that failure to declare that it's
> impossible. Well, not only is it possible, it simply works for other
> people, with no special effort involved. I think you would be better
> off putting your effort into determining why you cannot accomplish it
> yourself than in denying it works for most everyone else.
>
> Back when we first discussed this, the very next day I came across a
> fully functional copy of Photoshop Elements 2.0 running natively in Mac
> OS X 10.4.11 on a client's MacBook Pro. I posted the following
> screenshot, which you never commented on:
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> http://macconsult.com/usenet/pe20.png
<snip other examples>
Not that you need my support <g> but FWIW I installed and I run PE2 perfectly
happily on my G5 iMac PPC running 10.4.11. Have never had a single problem
with it and have never seen a reason to upgrade to a newer version.
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(Msg. 37) Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:59 am
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Sally Thompson <sallynewsgroup DeleteThis @yahoo.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
> Not that you need my support <g> but FWIW I installed and I run PE2
> perfectly happily on my G5 iMac PPC running 10.4.11. Have never had a
> single problem with it and have never seen a reason to upgrade to a newer
> version.
Thanks, Sally. Just don't upgrade to Leopard until you're also ready to
upgrade PE.
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(Msg. 38) Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:05 am
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In article <5qcjr39vqsa8m97p3kgdld2f1gvpifv5k2.TakeThisOut@4ax.com>,
Howard Brazee <howard.TakeThisOut@brazee.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 19:41:42 +0100, Erik Richard Sørensen
> <NOSPAM.TakeThisOut@NOSPAM.dk> wrote:
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> >Nope, IF the filesystem is broke, the only things that really can help=20
> >is either DiskWarrior or a reformatting and reinstallation of=20
> >everything. - But if that one time out of maybe one thousand can save=20
> >very valuable data, it's though worth trying it before doing other more=20
> >radical things.
>
> What does "=20" mean?
Well, 20 hexadecimal equals 32 decimal, and 32 ASCII is a space, so I
imagine those should have been spaces.
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(Msg. 39) Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:05 am
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On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:05:22 -0600, Jolly Roger <jollyroger DeleteThis @pobox.com>
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>> >Nope, IF the filesystem is broke, the only things that really can help=20
>> >is either DiskWarrior or a reformatting and reinstallation of=20
>> >everything. - But if that one time out of maybe one thousand can save=20
>> >very valuable data, it's though worth trying it before doing other more=20
>> >radical things.
>>
>> What does "=20" mean?
>
>Well, 20 hexadecimal equals 32 decimal, and 32 ASCII is a space, so I
>imagine those should have been spaces.
I considered that, but noted that there were other spaces in that
line. Maybe somewhere between that post and here, they had some
LF/space confusion. (I do more work with EBCDIC than with ASCII, so
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(Msg. 40) Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:55 am
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In article <1rfjr35ror2jg39om4pvpo46f7p5erad91.DeleteThis@4ax.com>,
Howard Brazee <howard.DeleteThis@brazee.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:05:22 -0600, Jolly Roger <jollyroger.DeleteThis@pobox.com>
> wrote:
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> >> >Nope, IF the filesystem is broke, the only things that really can help=20
> >> >is either DiskWarrior or a reformatting and reinstallation of=20
> >> >everything. - But if that one time out of maybe one thousand can save=20
> >> >very valuable data, it's though worth trying it before doing other more=20
> >> >radical things.
> >>
> >> What does "=20" mean?
> >
> >Well, 20 hexadecimal equals 32 decimal, and 32 ASCII is a space, so I
> >imagine those should have been spaces.
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> I considered that, but noted that there were other spaces in that
> line. Maybe somewhere between that post and here, they had some
> LF/space confusion.
I would imagine a LF issue is exactly what caused it.
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(Msg. 41) Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:11 pm
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Mike Rosenberg <mikePOST DeleteThis @TOGROUPmacconsult.com> wrote:
> http://macconsult.com/usenet/pe20.png
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> In all fairness, it was transferred to that Mac from his PowerMac G4
> using Migration Assistant, but I had installed it originally on that
> PowerMac for him under whatever version of Panther was current at the
> time.
It occurs to me that perhaps this is the source of the confusion:
http://macconsult.com/usenet/pe20g.png
Perhaps Erik read "A valid Classic environment was not detected" and
missed seeing that the installer would continue to run, installing a
copy that's complete only for Mac OS X.
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(Msg. 42) Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:56 pm
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Erik Richard Sørensen <NOSPAM.RemoveThis@NOSPAM.dk> wrote:
> > Perhaps Erik read "A valid Classic environment was not detected" and
> > missed seeing that the installer would continue to run, installing a
> > copy that's complete only for Mac OS X.
>
> No, I clearly get a dialog telling that I need Os 9.x to install PhE
> 2.0. clicking OK - a new dialog comes up with the dialog, you refer to.
> Clicking OK again, - the installer quits. Thee is no Os 9.x on any of
> the two latest tried machines...
So you're saying the installer actually launches in OS X? And you get
the same dialog as I showed in the latest screen shot? It sounds like
the installer is crashing on you. You definitely do _NOT_ need OS 9 to
install or use Photoshop Elements 2.0. In fact, that's why I bought
that version as soon as it was released back in 2002.
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(Msg. 43) Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:45 pm
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Erik Richard Sørensen <NOSPAM DeleteThis @NOSPAM.dk> wrote:
> what launches is the dialog telling that the installe needs OS 9.x.
> Behind this is an empty window. - And as written at that time, I have
> tried two other Cds - same result, - except the first one, which only
> gives the 'Os 9 missing dialog'...
I don't understand how an installer that requires OS 9 can even launch
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(Msg. 44) Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:55 pm
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On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 18:49:29 -0500, Erik Richard Sørensen wrote
(in article <47b8c809$0$2980$ba624c82@nntp06.dk.telia.net>):
> I've just tried to install PhE 2.0 from a third original CD on an older
> powerMac Dual G4/500 running all the latest in OS x 10.4.11... PhE 2.0
> WILLNOT install on OS X!!! - AND - i've also tried this tird Cd on my own
> MacPro running both 10.4.11 and 10.5.2 - PhE 2.0 WILLNOT install!!!
I received a free copy of (the already superseded) PE 2.0 with my scanner and
had no problems running it under 10.4 up to 10.4.11. It would not run under
10.5.1 so I bought PE4, which does run.
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