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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:01 pm
Post subject: Question about what "Home" means in the Home and Student Edition
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Hello All<br>
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I was wondering if someone could answer a question for me please.<br>
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I am seriously considering buying the "Office 2008 for Mac - Home and Student Edition" and I want to check what is allowed by the EULA.<br>
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I like the 3 licenses because both my wife and I have a Mac and would be able to use Office 2008.<br>
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However, both of us receive both "work" related email as well as "personal/home" email (we each use one email address for everything). Also, occasionally we might write a “work” related letter in Word, although mostly just “home” related stuff.<br>
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Is this still OK to use the "Home and Student Edition"? Or does the reception and reply of any work related email mean we would have to get the normal (much more expensive) version?<br>
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That would cost us 2 x £350 instead of 1 x £99!!<br>
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Thanks in advance<br>
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:42 pm
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On 2/1/08 4:01 PM, in article ee8bbcf.-1 DeleteThis @webcrossing.caR9absDaxw,
"tyronehowe@officeformac.com" <tyronehowe DeleteThis @officeformac.com> wrote:
> I am seriously considering buying the "Office 2008 for Mac - Home and Student
> Edition" and I want to check what is allowed by the EULA.
>
> I like the 3 licenses because both my wife and I have a Mac and would be able
> to use Office 2008.
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> However, both of us receive both "work" related email as well as
> "personal/home" email (we each use one email address for everything). Also,
> occasionally we might write a ³work² related letter in Word, although mostly
> just ³home² related stuff.
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> Is this still OK to use the "Home and Student Edition"? Or does the reception
> and reply of any work related email mean we would have to get the normal (much
> more expensive) version?
I would think that your Primary use is for Home. You are not using it in a
business setting so I don't see a violation of the EULA.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 4:21 am
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Hello Diane<br>
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Thank you very much for your quick reply. That is really good news.<br>
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No, we would not be using the software in a business setting, just using at home for both work and home things; mostly home.<br>
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I guess that you my wife's situation is slightly different from mine. She has a kind of "home office" (meaning she works from home sometimes, but mostly away from home) although again, I would think the majority of her email / word usage is home.<br>
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I guess that this is still within the confines of the "Home and Student" licence?<br>
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Thanks again<br>
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:40 am
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You should read the license for yourself (me, my opinion would be that
telecommuting is not noncommercial use, but neither of us actually know
these things for sure). Use the wizard here (it's Office for Mac)
http://www.microsoft.com/about/legal/useterms/default.aspx
tyronehowe.TakeThisOut@officeformac.com wrote:
> Hello Diane
>
> Thank you very much for your quick reply. That is really good news.
>
> No, we would not be using the software in a business setting, just
> using at home for both work and home things; mostly home.
>
> I guess that you my wife's situation is slightly different from mine.
> She has a kind of "home office" (meaning she works from home
> sometimes, but mostly away from home) although again, I would think
> the majority of her email / word usage is home.
>
> I guess that this is still within the confines of the "Home and
> Student" licence?
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> Thanks again
>
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:34 pm
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Hello Daiya<br>
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Thanks for your reply.<br>
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I think you must be correct. I followed the link you suggested but couldn't find anything specifically about what constitutes "Work" or "Home" - but I have to say that my gut feel is that you must be right and that this would be classified as "business use" and hence need the more expensive product.<br>
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It’s a shame because this type of fairly “casual” work use means a price difference of 700% which we could not possibly justify.<br>
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Possibly there is a need for a product version between “Home and Student” and “Standard”? Maybe something like “Home Office use” for very small businesses or home office use?<br>
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Anyway my thanks to the replies to my question.<br>
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Regards<br>
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 3:41 pm
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Some companies offer discounted licenses that employees can use to work
at home. If your wife's company does such, then the spirit of the EULA
may be fulfilled, even if not the letter.
tyronehowe DeleteThis @officeformac.com wrote:
> Hello Daiya
>
> Thanks for your reply.
>
> I think you must be correct. I followed the link you suggested but
> couldn't find anything specifically about what constitutes "Work" or
> "Home" - but I have to say that my gut feel is that you must be right
> and that this would be classified as "business use" and hence need the
> more expensive product.
>
> It's a shame because this type of fairly "casual" work use means a
> price difference of 700% which we could not possibly justify.
>
> Possibly there is a need for a product version between "Home and
> Student" and "Standard"? Maybe something like "Home Office use" for
> very small businesses or home office use?
>
> Anyway my thanks to the replies to my question.
>
> Regards
>
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 3:41 pm
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Again thanks<br>
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I will suggest to ger that she asks her employer.<br>
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Meanwhile, I am looking at eBay (US site, not UK) to buy the full Office 2008 since it is a LOT cheaper.<br>
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May I Just ask - if I purchase a full version from the US (via eBay), will it work (and is it licensed) to use in the UK?<br>
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I am hoping the answer is yes!<br>
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Thanks again<br>
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 5:15 pm
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On 2/2/08 1:13 PM, in article ee8bbcf.5 RemoveThis @webcrossing.caR9absDaxw,
"tyronehowe@officeformac.com" <tyronehowe RemoveThis @officeformac.com> wrote:
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> Meanwhile, I am looking at eBay (US site, not UK) to buy the full Office 2008
> since it is a LOT cheaper.
Amazon has good prices. Be careful buying on eBay. Many are not sealed
copies.
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> May I Just ask - if I purchase a full version from the US (via eBay), will it
> work (and is it licensed) to use in the UK?
I think the difference is in the proofing tools. The US and UK _should_ work
for you. I'm not sure they will ship to you out of the US though.
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Diane, Microsoft Mac MVP (MVPs are not Microsoft Employees)
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 10:51 am
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Daiya Mitchell wrote:
> Some companies offer discounted licenses that employees can use to work
> at home. If your wife's company does such, then the spirit of the EULA
> may be fulfilled, even if not the letter.
This may be of help
<http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/sa/benefits/home_use_rights.mspx>.
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bill
William M. Smith, Microsoft Interop MVP - Mac/Windows
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 6:47 pm
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Thanks William - I will get my wife to pass this info on to her employee.<br>
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Thank you Diane - Hmmmm I've been thinking. Do you know if it's possible to download proofing tools for different geographic areas? For example, I might buy a UK version of Office 2008 and yet I might be (say) scripting for an American client and would want the proofing tools to be correct for the USA? Is there anything that says one MUST use the proofing tools designed for the area in which you live?<br>
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Again thanks in advance<br>
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:06 am
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Hi,
Office comes with an entire collection of proofing tools, and they're the
same across all the international versions. In other words, if you buy the
US version, you will still have access to the English (UK), French, German,
Spanish etc. spell checkers.
On 04/02/08 3:47, in article ee8bbcf.8.TakeThisOut@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw,
"tyronehowe@officeformac.com" <tyronehowe.TakeThisOut@officeformac.com> wrote:
> Thanks William - I will get my wife to pass this info on to her employee.
>
> Thank you Diane - Hmmmm I've been thinking. Do you know if it's possible to
> download proofing tools for different geographic areas? For example, I might
> buy a UK version of Office 2008 and yet I might be (say) scripting for an
> American client and would want the proofing tools to be correct for the USA?
> Is there anything that says one MUST use the proofing tools designed for the
> area in which you live?
>
> Again thanks in advance
>
> Tyrone Howe
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Microsoft MVP
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:11 pm
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 6:49 pm
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In article <ee8bbcf.10.TakeThisOut@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw>,
<tyronehowe.TakeThisOut@officeformac.com> wrote:
> Hello Michel<br>
> <br>
> Thanks - you guys really have answered all my questions!<br>
> <br>
> I have decided to buy two versions, The Home version for me and the standard
> version for my wife (both from USA eBay).<br>
> <br>
> A satisfied customer here!<br>
> <br>
> Regards<br>
> <br>
> Tyrone Howe
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:48 pm
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On 2/4/08 6:49 PM, in article 040220081849084917%rag@nospam.techline.com,
"Mr. Strat" <rag DeleteThis @nospam.techline.com> wrote:
> n article <ee8bbcf.10 DeleteThis @webcrossing.caR9absDaxw>,
> <tyronehowe DeleteThis @officeformac.com> wrote:
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>> Hello Michel<br>
>> <br>
>> Thanks - you guys really have answered all my questions!<br>
>> <br>
>> I have decided to buy two versions, The Home version for me and the standard
>> version for my wife (both from USA eBay).<br>
>> <br>
>> A satisfied customer here!<br>
>> <br>
>> Regards<br>
>> <br>
>> Tyrone Howe
>
> Quit posting in HTML, you idiot!
The <br> tags are what users in some newsreaders are seeing from the new
Mactopia interface. We're waiting on a fix.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:40 am
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Diane Ross wrote:
> "Mr. Strat" <rag.RemoveThis@nospam.techline.com> wrote:
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>> Quit posting in HTML, you idiot!
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> The <br> tags are what users in some newsreaders are seeing from the new
> Mactopia interface. We're waiting on a fix.
>
And he's got no control over it, so don't curse him. If they are posting
from an officeformac.com address, they are using the new Mactopia
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