On 10/10/03 5:34 PM, "Michael Ryznar" <info.TakeThisOut@REMOVETHIS.ryznardesign.com>
wrote:
> I'll try this when I can but there are shortcomings to this suggestion. Any
> obfuscated email you send to people such as in this format:
>
> yourname.TakeThisOut@REMOVETHIS.companyname.com
>
> is not returnable if the receiver doesn't expect this. They will simply
> press the "reply to sender" button and the email would bounce back and
> frustrate the user. This wouldn't be a very wise business practice.
Definitely not good business practice, but I would suggest using it more for
the purpose of posting email addresses in public newsgroups.
> Perhaps I have misunderstood your suggestion and so I would like to ask if
> you had something else in mind when you suggested obfuscating your email
> address?
> Do you have any examples of this being done in the real business world?
> Sounds good in theory but impractical in today's business correspondence.
No examples in the business world but businesses should still guard their
email addresses. See this discussion
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/msg11095.html." target="_blank">http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/msg11095.html.</a>
> As far as newsgroups, when you sign up for a newsgroup I believe the only
> way you can take part in newsgroup discussions is by giving them your real
> email address. I could be wrong about this and I am now going to do some
> research on this.
You're definitely correct about this, but mailing lists are usually
moderated and even a spammer has to provide a legitimate address to post.
This is too much trouble for most.
> Again I am not trying to sound negative and I certainly appreciated your
> helpful and generous post but I am just trying to see if you agree that
> there are serious negative implications to obfuscating your email address.
For newsgroups, I post my email address in case someone has a legitimate
need to contact me privately, but I obfuscate it to protect my email account
from spammers. I would expect most folks are savvy enough to figure out the
problem if they receive a bounced message. The worst case scenario is the
person has to contact me through the public newsgroups.
> I have a feeling that we are all going to have to just get used to writing
> rules to filter email spam in addition to obfuscating our email address -
> where it is practical to obfuscate email addresses.
In a corporate environment, administrators have access to better tools and
services to block the majority of spam. Home users should educate themselves
more in how to prevent spam rather than filtering it.
No one has said all this any better than the Center for Democracy &
Technology (http://www.cdt.org). Their report "Why Am I Getting All This
Spam? Unsolicited Commercial E-mail Research Six Month Report"
(http://www.cdt.org/speech/spam/030319spamreport.shtml) from March 2003 is a
must read if you want to learn how to prevent getting spam.
> PS What do you think is more clear:
>
> yourname.TakeThisOut@REMOVETHIS.companyname.com
> or
> yourname.TakeThisOut@REMOVETHIScompanyname.com
> ?
> (the difference is the period after REMOVETHIS)
I would personally leave out the period since you have REMOVETHIS in caps.
As long anyone can figure it out, it has served its purpose. Another option
is spelling out your address, such as
Yourname at companyname dot com
Some folks will put instructions in their signatures as well to explain how
to interpret an obfuscated email such as
"Correct my address before replying to me." or
"Remove the obvious to reply."
bill
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