Mac users will luuuv Asus's Eee

"Priam" <me.TakeThisOut@nonewhatsoever.net> wrote in message
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>I was reading about Asus' Eee computer yesterday:
>
> <http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?modelmenu=2&model=1907&l1=24&l2=0&l3=0&l4=0>
>
> and I thought Mac users will luuuuuv this tiny (0.92 kg), all solid state
> computer with an no headache (Xandros) Unice *preinstalled* and all cut to
> size for the little computer.

What's Unice? If you're talking Unix or UNIX Xandros is neither, it's
Linux.

>
> Ok, as it comes, the storage is not large, but it's got wifi so you can
> send your data to Google and store it on a 16 G USB key meanwhile.
>
> What do you say? Would you rather pay $1100 for a MacBook or $400 for an
> Eee.

$400 where?

Greg
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> "Priam" <me RemoveThis @nonewhatsoever.net> wrote in message
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>> What do you say? Would you rather pay $1100 for a MacBook or $400 for an
>> Eee.
>
> $400 where?
>

Nevermind. I found them. Completely different than a MacBook, that being
said, I'd be interested in it if I knew what wireless chipset was included.
It just says 802.11 b/g or has a dot in the feature list but it doesn't give
any details.

Greg
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> "G.T." <getnews1.TakeThisOut@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
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> > "Priam" <me.TakeThisOut@nonewhatsoever.net> wrote in message
> > news:fjpqgk$15q$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> >
> >> What do you say? Would you rather pay $1100 for a MacBook or $400 for an
> >> Eee.
> >
> > $400 where?
>
> Nevermind. I found them. Completely different than a MacBook, that being
> said, I'd be interested in it if I knew what wireless chipset was included.
> It just says 802.11 b/g or has a dot in the feature list but it doesn't give
> any details.

Ultraportables are nice. I pilot a G5 rig at home, but my portable
machine is a Fujitsu Lifebook P1510D. It's a convertible tablet with a
touch screen. Hardware-wise, I love that computer like I have never
loved a computer before. It came with Windows XP, but that's doable;
I've been multi-platform for quite a while anyway.

The Fujitsu is a bit larger (and much more expensive) than the Eee, and
correspondingly more capable, but it definitely scratches the same
itch. With the extended battery, it still weighs under three pounds --
and runs 6-7 hours. I will probably soon upgrade to its successor, the
P1610D which has LED backlighting among other improvements, and throw
in a solid state disk for a runtime more like 7-8 hours.

Unless the rumors about the Apple ultraportable are true. That's why I
haven't bought the P1610D yet. (That, and I'm hoping Fujitsu will put
a Penryn dual-core in the machine.)

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G.T. wrote:
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>> "Priam" <me.RemoveThis@nonewhatsoever.net> wrote in message
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>>
>>> What do you say? Would you rather pay $1100 for a MacBook or $400 for an
>>> Eee.
>> $400 where?
>>
>
> Nevermind. I found them.

Really? you didn't have to look too long, I hope :)

> Completely different than a MacBook,

Absolutely! All solid state, much smaller and lighter. Of course, the
monitor is not as large and the processor not as powerful. Of course
again, OS X would be totally brain dead if it was on this kind of
machine, but with Xandros:

"The Eee PC isn't as quick as most laptops but its 900MHz CPU and 512MB
of RAM are just fast enough. Applications generally open in a couple of
seconds after clicking and it's powerful enough to edit photos without
becoming a cause of frustration. It generally boots up in about 30
seconds, which is quicker than most Windows-based laptops.

Battery life was quite impressive. Asus claims it will last
approximately 3.5 hours depending on what tasks you're performing, and
this was in line with our own experience. With very light use, the
machine lasted as long as four hours, though your own mileage may vary."

http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/laptops/0,39030092,49293507-2,00.htm


> that being
> said, I'd be interested in it if I knew what wireless chipset was included.

Maybe you could ask http://forum.eeeuser.com .

Don't expect a $400 computer to be the exact replica of a MacBook, it's
just plain impossible. But, if you want a computer that's so small and
reliable that you can carry it around like a hardcover book, this pretty
much looks like.

What sets this computer apart is that, usually, smaller means more
expensive. Now, it's less. After the OLPC and the Classmate, this
computer provides the mobility and the usability most grown-ups need.
That's why some reviewers see this smaller cheaper trend as a revolution.

After the Christmas' craze is over, it might also sell for less. (Say
around $300. Remember the iPhone craze and how the prices dropped
thereafter?)

Because Mac users usually appreciate subnotebooks and because most of
their needs will be addressed by the Eee while traveling, I thought
they'd be interested.

Unfortunately, some dogs bark at anything that's not Apple.
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In article <fjpqgk$15q$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
Priam <me DeleteThis @nonewhatsoever.net> wrote:

> I was reading about Asus' Eee computer yesterday:
>
> <http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?modelmenu=2&model=1907&l1=24&l2=0&l3=0&l4=0
> >
>
> and I thought Mac users will luuuuuv this tiny (0.92 kg), all solid
> state computer with an no headache (Xandros) Unice *preinstalled* and
> all cut to size for the little computer.
>
> Ok, as it comes, the storage is not large, but it's got wifi so you can
> send your data to Google and store it on a 16 G USB key meanwhile.
>
> What do you say? Would you rather pay $1100 for a MacBook or $400 for an
> Eee.

I would rather participate in the laptop.org Give 1 Get 1 program for
the same $400, which offers 2 people a far superior piece of hardware
along with a far superior goal of education rather than the Eee's base
goal of profit taking and (apparently) newsgroup spamming.

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In <fjq7m3$h21$1@registered.motzarella.org>, Priam wrote:

> http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/laptops/0,39030092,49293507-2,00.htm

Every now and them something about the Eee pops up on some forums that
I've read. It looks like an interesting product.

Do you have one? What's your experience with it compared to a MacBook?

When it's time to give my daughter a notebook, I haven't decided about a
used, but upgraded MacBook/iBook, a OLPC thingy or an Eee.

-j

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Doc O'Leary wrote:

> I would rather participate in the laptop.org Give 1 Get 1 program for
> the same $400, which offers 2 people a far superior piece of hardware
> along with a far superior goal of education rather than the Eee's base
> goal of profit taking and (apparently) newsgroup spamming.

I'm don't believe the XO is a far superior product, but I must confess
I'm not an expert in this matter. Can you explain why you believe the X0
is superior?

I've seen neither computer, but the XO apparently is:

"A unique machine with features created specifically for children of the
emerging world."

<http://laptop.org/laptop/>

I'm not sure this machine would be very useful for an adult with some
practice in computing. Even a child who's had his hand at computers sinc
ehe was 3-4 years year might not think it's that great. Maybe thy'd
think it's fun too, I don't know. But, certainly, $400 for 1 XO is a
nice initiative.

As for Asus, there's not doubt that they're in no way a charitable
organisation, they sure are profiting from the craze of early adopters,
but their efficiency -- as, amongst other things, mobo builders, they
are in relation with many electronics components manufacturers -- they
might open doors to a new kind of computers at a very decent price.

Still, if you find their margins are too high at $400 for an Eee, I hope
you don't own a Mac: Apple's margins are much higher. I'm sure Asus'
president is not getting paid hundreds of million dollars a year.
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Jerry Kindall wrote:

> The Fujitsu is a bit larger (and much more expensive) than the Eee

Yes, much more expensive, that's the problem. Mayeb you're always on the
go and you need this kind of computer but, certainly, most people don't.

That's why the Eee -- which has a back-lit screen :) -- might scratch an
itch not only in developed countries, but also in the developing world.
What this means is VOLUME, and volume brings prices down.
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Priam <me.DeleteThis@nonewhatsoever.net> writes:

> Doc O'Leary wrote:
>
>> I would rather participate in the laptop.org Give 1 Get 1 program for
>> the same $400, which offers 2 people a far superior piece of hardware
>> along with a far superior goal of education rather than the Eee's base
>> goal of profit taking and (apparently) newsgroup spamming.
>
> I'm don't believe the XO is a far superior product, but I must confess
> I'm not an expert in this matter. Can you explain why you believe the X0
> is superior?

Better screen: The XO has a 1200x900 resolution in monochrome/reflective
mode (good in full sunshine) and still more than the 800x480 of the Asus
EEE in color/backlit mode. Power consumption: The XO runs literally
up to *days* on a battery load (by shutting down components) while the
EEE goes down after about 3 hours. The XO can also be used in an
tablet-mode (with the lid closed and the display turned outside), which
is a good idea for reading ebooks.


Jochem

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The Eee comes well equipped for reading emails; surfing the web and
writing small documents while on the road. Its weight and size are
perfect for that use. As is the price.

Perhaps it is the Palm or the Newton that never was.

I'll wait to see what MacWorld brings before I jump for the EEE though.
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Doc O'Leary wrote:
> In article <fjrrc7$pqp$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
> Priam <me DeleteThis @nonewhatsoever.net> wrote:
>
>> Doc O'Leary wrote:
>>
>>> I would rather participate in the laptop.org Give 1 Get 1 program for
>>> the same $400, which offers 2 people a far superior piece of hardware
>>> along with a far superior goal of education rather than the Eee's base
>>> goal of profit taking and (apparently) newsgroup spamming.
>> I'm don't believe the XO is a far superior product, but I must confess
>> I'm not an expert in this matter. Can you explain why you believe the X0
>> is superior?
>
> The specs for both are online.

I'm sure both you and Jochem will be glad to provide the URLs so we
don'T all waste our time looking for them.
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In article <fjuk6k$9lq$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
Priam <me RemoveThis @nonewhatsoever.net> wrote:

> Doc O'Leary wrote:
> > In article <fjrrc7$pqp$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
> > Priam <me RemoveThis @nonewhatsoever.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Doc O'Leary wrote:
> >>
> >>> I would rather participate in the laptop.org Give 1 Get 1 program for
> >>> the same $400, which offers 2 people a far superior piece of hardware
> >>> along with a far superior goal of education rather than the Eee's base
> >>> goal of profit taking and (apparently) newsgroup spamming.
> >> I'm don't believe the XO is a far superior product, but I must confess
> >> I'm not an expert in this matter. Can you explain why you believe the X0
> >> is superior?
> >
> > The specs for both are online.
>
> I'm sure both you and Jochem will be glad to provide the URLs so we
> don'T all waste our time looking for them.

Oh please. There are so many sites comparing the two that it's almost
hard to _not_ find them through Google. Try
<http://laptopmag.com/Features/OLPC-XO-vs-Asus-Eee-PC-701.htm> for one.
If you don't like that one, try
<http://www.google.com/search?ie=utf8&oe=utf8&q=eee+xo> for many, many
others.

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Independent Mac OS X developer since 2002
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