MacBook Pro doesn't like waking up

In article <gkreme-21E953.09012126022008.DeleteThis@news.giganews.com>,
Lewis <gkreme.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:

> In article
> <2ecc1afb-a686-4131-a5e1-a0726bceb5ac.DeleteThis@z17g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
> Jeanne <Jeanne.Clelland.DeleteThis@colorado.edu> wrote:
>
> > I frequently put my MacBook Pro to sleep by closing the lid. Often -
> > but not always - when I open the lid, it makes a noise like the disk
> > waking up, but the screen stays dark. I can't find the right buttons
> > to push to make it light up, and usually I end up doing a hard reboot.
>
> I close the lid again for about 30s and open it. Seems to work.

Same here. Only more often I am too impatient to wait 30 seconds, so I
simply count to ten and pop it open again. That usually does the trick.

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On Feb 27, 11:00 am, Randy Howard <randyhow....DeleteThis@FOOverizonBAR.net>
wrote:
> Nevermind that it shouldn't happen at all.
>
> It seems to be related to changing power adapter state while it is
> suspended.  If you have it plugged into the brick when you close the
> lid, and remove it before opening it again, or vice versa, it seems
> much more likely to do this.
>
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I wish it were that simple, but this generally happens when it's been
plugged in the whole time, typically after I put it to sleep
overnight. Ah well, next time it happens I'll try the 30-second
thing.


Jeanne
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On Feb 27, 8:07 am, Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovet....RemoveThis@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Randy Howard <randyhow....RemoveThis@FOOverizonBAR.net> writes:
> > On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 20:36:16 -0600, Jolly Roger wrote
> > (in article
> > <jollyroger-087123.20361626022....RemoveThis@earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>):
>
> > > In article <gkreme-21E953.09012126022....RemoveThis@news.giganews.com>,
> > >  Lewis <gkr....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> In article
> > >> <2ecc1afb-a686-4131-a5e1-a0726bceb....RemoveThis@z17g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
> > >> Jeanne <Jeanne.Clell....RemoveThis@colorado.edu> wrote:
>
> > >>> I frequently put my MacBook Pro to sleep by closing the lid.  Often -
> > >>> but not always - when I open the lid, it makes a noise like the disk
> > >>> waking up, but the screen stays dark.  I can't find the right buttons
> > >>> to push to make it light up, and usually I end up doing a hard reboot.
>
> > >> I close the lid again for about 30s and open it.  Seems to work.
>
> > > Same here. Only more often I am too impatient to wait 30 seconds, so I
> > > simply count to ten and pop it open again.  That usually does the trick.
>
> > Nevermind that it shouldn't happen at all.
>
> > It seems to be related to changing power adapter state while it is
> > suspended.  If you have it plugged into the brick when you close the
> > lid, and remove it before opening it again, or vice versa, it seems
> > much more likely to do this.
>
> I haven't had this.  I have had the following:  I close the lid, and
> then realize almost immediately I wasn't done, and open the lid again.
>
> Then the machine is in some strange state (maybe just still asleep).
> If I wait a few seconds and hit a key, or maybe click on the mouse (I
> foret which), it wakes up.

I've seen 2 conditions where my MBP (15.4"/1.83 CD) has refused to
wake up. The first, and easier case, is if I do what Doug mentioned
above. I've found that, if I close the lid, and wait until the "sleep
light" starts to cycle, I can open the lid and all is well. The second
has been harder to overcome. If, with the lid closed, I plug in a USB
device, I have been unable to get the computer to wake up again.
Perhaps because it is getting mixed signals (plugging in the USB
device tells it to wake up, while having the lid closed says go to
sleep). Anyway, the couple of times this has happened, I found I had
to restart the MBP.
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On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 20:36:16 -0600, Jolly Roger wrote
(in article
<jollyroger-087123.20361626022008.TakeThisOut@earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>):

> In article <gkreme-21E953.09012126022008.TakeThisOut@news.giganews.com>,
> Lewis <gkreme.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In article
>> <2ecc1afb-a686-4131-a5e1-a0726bceb5ac.TakeThisOut@z17g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
>> Jeanne <Jeanne.Clelland.TakeThisOut@colorado.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> I frequently put my MacBook Pro to sleep by closing the lid. Often -
>>> but not always - when I open the lid, it makes a noise like the disk
>>> waking up, but the screen stays dark. I can't find the right buttons
>>> to push to make it light up, and usually I end up doing a hard reboot.
>>
>> I close the lid again for about 30s and open it. Seems to work.
>
> Same here. Only more often I am too impatient to wait 30 seconds, so I
> simply count to ten and pop it open again. That usually does the trick.

Nevermind that it shouldn't happen at all.

It seems to be related to changing power adapter state while it is
suspended. If you have it plugged into the brick when you close the
lid, and remove it before opening it again, or vice versa, it seems
much more likely to do this.


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Randy Howard <randyhoward DeleteThis @FOOverizonBAR.net> writes:

> On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 20:36:16 -0600, Jolly Roger wrote
> (in article
> <jollyroger-087123.20361626022008 DeleteThis @earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>):
>
> > In article <gkreme-21E953.09012126022008 DeleteThis @news.giganews.com>,
> > Lewis <gkreme DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> In article
> >> <2ecc1afb-a686-4131-a5e1-a0726bceb5ac DeleteThis @z17g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
> >> Jeanne <Jeanne.Clelland DeleteThis @colorado.edu> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I frequently put my MacBook Pro to sleep by closing the lid. Often -
> >>> but not always - when I open the lid, it makes a noise like the disk
> >>> waking up, but the screen stays dark. I can't find the right buttons
> >>> to push to make it light up, and usually I end up doing a hard reboot.
> >>
> >> I close the lid again for about 30s and open it. Seems to work.
> >
> > Same here. Only more often I am too impatient to wait 30 seconds, so I
> > simply count to ten and pop it open again. That usually does the trick.
>
> Nevermind that it shouldn't happen at all.
>
> It seems to be related to changing power adapter state while it is
> suspended. If you have it plugged into the brick when you close the
> lid, and remove it before opening it again, or vice versa, it seems
> much more likely to do this.

I haven't had this. I have had the following: I close the lid, and
then realize almost immediately I wasn't done, and open the lid again.

Then the machine is in some strange state (maybe just still asleep).
If I wait a few seconds and hit a key, or maybe click on the mouse (I
foret which), it wakes up.
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On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:15:55 -0600, Jeanne wrote
(in article
<bb283c22-d215-4d83-8f66-ac9b01a94547.DeleteThis@v3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>):

> On Feb 27, 11:00 am, Randy Howard <randyhow....DeleteThis@FOOverizonBAR.net>
> wrote:
>> Nevermind that it shouldn't happen at all.
>>
>> It seems to be related to changing power adapter state while it is
>> suspended.  If you have it plugged into the brick when you close the
>> lid, and remove it before opening it again, or vice versa, it seems
>> much more likely to do this.
>>
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>> Randy Howard (2reply remove FOOBAR)
>> "The power of accurate observation is called cynicism by those
>>  who have not got it."  - George Bernard Shaw
>
>
> I wish it were that simple, but this generally happens when it's been
> plugged in the whole time, typically after I put it to sleep
> overnight. Ah well, next time it happens I'll try the 30-second
> thing.

Suffice it to say that the macbook pro power management firmware is
borked. There are a number of different ways to trip into wakeup
issues, the one I posted above was the one I've found is easiest to
reproduce on my system.

I bought mine very early, and I'm more than a bit miffed that all this
time later it still hasn't been addressed.

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