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Randy Howard wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 22:18:32 -0600, Michelle Steiner wrote
> (in article <michelle-EE3EC5.21183215012008 RemoveThis @news.west.cox.net>):
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>> In article <0001HW.C3B2D0E10591E3D3F01846D8 RemoveThis @news.verizon.net>,
>> Randy Howard <randyhoward RemoveThis @FOOverizonBAR.net> wrote:
>>
>>>> So what does Apple do? They are coming out with an Airport Extreme
>>>> with built-in hard drive: Five GB for $300 or One TB for $500.
>>>> Whooie! Available in February. It's called Time Capsule.
>>> Those of us that already bought an Airport Extreme and an external
>>> hard drive (both purchased from Apple by the way) to accomplish this
>>> are not crying "whooie" at the moment.
>> And I bought an iMac one month before the new aluminum ones came out,
>> immediate rendering mine as a discontinued model.
>>
>> What should Apple have done: Not come out with the Time Capsule?
>
> Not prevent it from working on an AE with a hard drive attached.

How would a time capsule 'work' on an AE with a hard drive attached?

Andy
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On 1/16/08 12:01 PM, in article fmlgp7$dn8$2@aioe.org, "nospamatall"
<nospamatall.TakeThisOut@iol.ie> wrote:

> Randy Howard wrote:
>> On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 22:18:32 -0600, Michelle Steiner wrote
>> (in article <michelle-EE3EC5.21183215012008.TakeThisOut@news.west.cox.net>):
>>
>>> In article <0001HW.C3B2D0E10591E3D3F01846D8.TakeThisOut@news.verizon.net>,
>>> Randy Howard <randyhoward.TakeThisOut@FOOverizonBAR.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> So what does Apple do? They are coming out with an Airport Extreme
>>>>> with built-in hard drive: Five GB for $300 or One TB for $500.
>>>>> Whooie! Available in February. It's called Time Capsule.
>>>> Those of us that already bought an Airport Extreme and an external
>>>> hard drive (both purchased from Apple by the way) to accomplish this
>>>> are not crying "whooie" at the moment.
>>> And I bought an iMac one month before the new aluminum ones came out,
>>> immediate rendering mine as a discontinued model.
>>>
>>> What should Apple have done: Not come out with the Time Capsule?
>>
>> Not prevent it from working on an AE with a hard drive attached.
>
> How would a time capsule 'work' on an AE with a hard drive attached?
>
> Andy
Exactly! Apple stated that for Time Machine to work, it had to be on a drive
connected to a computer running Leopard with the same kind of processor.
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In <michelle-6DD0DB.11481415012008.TakeThisOut@news.west.cox.net>, Michelle Steiner wrote:

> So what does Apple do? They are coming out with an Airport Extreme with
> built-in hard drive: Five GB for $300 or One TB for $500. Whooie!
> Available in February. It's called Time Capsule.

I will need to find out what a base station actually does. I've got a
Wi-Fi(g) access point that I might want to replace if n really brings
advantages that I can use. I don't want a router, just an access point.

The one major room in the house that doesn't have ether is the room with
the TV and stereo. So I'm thinking of getting a high-def TV after the
SuperBowl and then something like an Apple TV. And the Time Capsule may
be useful in making sure that that room gets a good signal.

In terms of back-up I've already got dedicated TM enclosers for the iMacs
in the house, and my MacPro has it as a disk internally. I don't really
care about backing up my MacBook. Or at least not while it's at home.
But I am wondering whether the Time Capsule can be used as Network
Attached Storage (NAS) for backing up non-Macs (two FreeBSD machines).

> New functions for the iPhone, including location by triangulation, using
> both WiFi hotspots and cell towers

That is cool. I remember reading about the system of wi-fi triangulation.
At the time, I didn't consider this a privacy issue. My wi-fi AP is
broadcasting its hardware address to the neighborhood and I shouldn't
consider that private. On the other hand, I do feel (possibly
irrationally) a bit weirded out by the fact that physical locations and
wi-fi MAC addresses are all stored some where. I don't see at the moment
how that information can be misused, but still it's got me concerned.

> Movie rentals (30 days from date of purchase to start watching, 24 hours
> to finish watching), new Apple TV (40 Gig for $229, 160 Gig for $329.),
> with original models upgradable via software update. Includes HD and
> Dolby 5.1, and no need to connect to a computer.

This, Netflix going into downloads, and the emergence of a winner in the
high-def format wars, means that I'm finally ready for a high definition
TV.

> And MacBook Air.

Doing away with the optical disk-drive is the revolutionary thing here.
I'm a bit skeptical, but this is exactly the kind of thing that in the
past Apple has been right about and I've been wrong. My wife goes to lots
of academic conferences at which CDs with the conference programme and
proceedings are handed out. Also lots of "vendors" also hand out CD.
When you are in a hotel room traveling, there typically won't be an
optical reader you can make use of. I guess you can leave the USB optical
drive in the hotel room and in checked luggage.

Likewise, there is no ether. Again lots of hotels provide ether instead
of wi-fi in the rooms. I guess you pack an Airport Express with your USB
optical drive.

None-the-less, I am lusting over the MacBook Air. But I'm not looking to
get a new notebook soon.

On the whole, I don't think that the keynote came close to meeting the
(overly) high expectations people have of these things. Furthermore, I
didn't come close to getting a Bingo using my Mac World 08 Keynote
Buzzword Bingo card.

http://iskub.sippan.se/bingo/

-j

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In <michelle-C5ACF0.21303115012008.DeleteThis@news.west.cox.net>, Michelle Steiner wrote:

> The whole thing is a deal breaker for me; everything I need or want in a
> portable computer is in the iPhone.

My one big iPhone feature request is to have the "landscape" keyboard
available for Mail as well as for Safari (actually just have it available
for any situation where the keyboard can be used). That would overcome
one big hurdle in my thinking out the iPhone as a portable computer.

I have other needs in a portable as well, but the usefulness of the iPhone
would increase dramatically once I get the "bigger" keyboard for Mail.

-j

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In <paul.sture.nospam-458C27.01574216012008 DeleteThis @mac.sture.ch>, P. Sture wrote:

> I didn't catch on at first, but the "Air" bit of the product name really
> means "air travel", n'est-ce pas? Excellent if you fly a lot; for those
> of us who don't, other models in the range are probably a better choice.

I noticed that much of the action in the Guided Tour

http://www.apple.com/macbookair/guidedtour/

is in an airport.

But I also think that as a note taking device in classes or in meetings it
would be useful. A full keyboard means that you don't have to be watching
your fingers when you type. You can't do that on an iPhone.

The backlit keyboard means that when you do need to look at the keyboard,
you don't have to strain to find what you are looking for. I like my
MacBook, but next time, I'm going to get something with a backlit (or
otherwise illuminated) keyboard.

-j

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In article <michelle-EE3EC5.21183215012008.DeleteThis@news.west.cox.net>,
Michelle Steiner <michelle.DeleteThis@michelle.org> wrote:
>In article <0001HW.C3B2D0E10591E3D3F01846D8.DeleteThis@news.verizon.net>,
> Randy Howard <randyhoward.DeleteThis@FOOverizonBAR.net> wrote:
>
>Apple gives you 31 days. Thirty to start watching it, and one more to
>finish it. I doubt that I'll rent any from Apple either, unless it's to
>watch on an airplane flight. I haven't rented a movie in a decade, but
>I've bought more than a few in that time frame.

I wouldn't bet on the rentals working without network connectivity.
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russotto.TakeThisOut@grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew T. Russotto) writes:
> In article <michelle-EE3EC5.21183215012008.TakeThisOut@news.west.cox.net>,
> Michelle Steiner <michelle.TakeThisOut@michelle.org> wrote:

> >Apple gives you 31 days. Thirty to start watching it, and one more to
> >finish it. I doubt that I'll rent any from Apple either, unless it's to
> >watch on an airplane flight. I haven't rented a movie in a decade, but
> >I've bought more than a few in that time frame.
>
> I wouldn't bet on the rentals working without network connectivity.

I would make that bet. Network connectivity isn't necessary
for existing Apple DRM-protected files to run.

Admittedly, there's the issue of timing out - it's possible
that the software will require that it successfully connect
to the network at least once every so often and after that,
it'll block. But there's no way it'll require continuous
connectivity to play rented movies.

How often to ping the server - that's the question.

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In article <michelle-B2C6B8.13220316012008.TakeThisOut@news.west.cox.net>,
Michelle Steiner <michelle.TakeThisOut@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <paul.sture.nospam-F685E2.12171316012008.TakeThisOut@mac.sture.ch>,
> "P. Sture" <paul.sture.nospam.TakeThisOut@hispeed.ch> wrote:
>
> > Would you see a docking station useful for this system? Having now
> > read some more on the subject, I see it could be a very smart move by
> > Apple at getting a foot in the board room.
>
> How would the computer connect with a docking station? The only
> available port is the USB port.
>
> But I could see a powered docking station using the USB port, and having
> a few USB ports of its own, plus an ethernet port; also passthroughs for
> the video and audio out ports and the power connector.

That's what I was thinking.

> Sounds like a good third-party opportunity.

Indeed.

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