Mail app question

In article ,
clw.DeleteThis@oblivion.world wrote:



 >
  > > Is there any way to get this program to leave the original window open
  > > when replying to a message instead of closing it all the time? As soon
  > > as you hit the reply button, it closes the message to which you are
  > > responding.
 >
 > You can set the prefs to include the original message so you can see
 > what you are replying to.


That's quoting and I am not talking about quoting. But thanks. I m
talking about leaving the previous message open while you compose a
reply.
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In article ,
Madwen <madwen DeleteThis @onomatopaeia.com> wrote:



 >


  > >
   > > > Is there any way to get this program to leave the original window open
   > > > when replying to a message instead of closing it all the time? As soon
   > > > as you hit the reply button, it closes the message to which you are
   > > > responding.
  > >
  > > You can set the prefs to include the original message so you can see
  > > what you are replying to.
 >
 >
 > That's quoting and I am not talking about quoting. But thanks. I m
 > talking about leaving the previous message open while you compose a
 > reply.

Write your entire reply and then delete the original message.
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In article , Madwen
wrote:

 > Is there any way to get this program to leave the original window open
 > when replying to a message instead of closing it all the time? As soon
 > as you hit the reply button, it closes the message to which you are
 > responding.

Not that I know of.

But, if you use the split-screen view in the main viewer window and
read your mail that way, that window *won't* close when you hit Reply,
and you'll still be able to refer to it if you need. That's how I run
it, anyway.

To use the split-screen, drag the small dot at the bottom of the viewer
up to where you'd like the split to be. (Or double-click on it to
quickly split it.)

Hope that helps.

--
Garner R. Miller
Manchester, CT =USA=
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In article ,
Madwen <madwen.RemoveThis@onomatopaeia.com> wrote:

 > Is there any way to get this program to leave the original window open
 > when replying to a message instead of closing it all the time? As soon
 > as you hit the reply button, it closes the message to which you are
 > responding.

I've never seen this happen in Mail, not even in earlier versions. Both
the new message in preparation and message being replied to are
open and can be made active by clicking on the desired window.

The only thing I can think of is that you have the new covering the old
so you can't see it. Even so, the Window menu will show both windows
with the active one being check-marked, so that toggling between windows
is simple.

On a small screen machine it might be easier might be to see the open
application windows using expose's F10.

--
Rod Smith
Florida Panhandle
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In article ,
Garner Miller <garner.TakeThisOut@netstreet.net> wrote:



 >
  > > Is there any way to get this program to leave the original window open
  > > when replying to a message instead of closing it all the time? As soon
  > > as you hit the reply button, it closes the message to which you are
  > > responding.
 >
 > Not that I know of.
 >
 > But, if you use the split-screen view in the main viewer window and
 > read your mail that way, that window *won't* close when you hit Reply,
 > and you'll still be able to refer to it if you need. That's how I run
 > it, anyway.
 >
 > To use the split-screen, drag the small dot at the bottom of the viewer
 > up to where you'd like the split to be. (Or double-click on it to
 > quickly split it.)
 >
 > Hope that helps.

Yes, that does, thank you. :) I had not thought of that since I don't
normally use the split screen due to threading (by case) all the
business email I receive. But for those rare occasions, I can use the
split screen.
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Rod Smith wrote:

  > > Is there any way to get this program to leave the original window open
  > > when replying to a message instead of closing it all the time? As soon
  > > as you hit the reply button, it closes the message to which you are
  > > responding.
 >
 > I've never seen this happen in Mail, not even in earlier versions. Both
 > the new message in preparation and message being replied to are
 > open and can be made active by clicking on the desired window.

Are you viewing the message in a separate window as Madeline is, as
opposed to the split-screen in the main message window? Viewing
messages in a separate window, which I prefer, I've only ever seen the
behavior that she described and know of no way to change it.

--
Mike Rosenberg

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In article ,
Rod Smith <rodsmith.DeleteThis@mac.com> wrote:

 > The only thing I can think of is that you have the new covering the old
 > so you can't see it. Even so, the Window menu will show both windows
 > with the active one being check-marked, so that toggling between windows
 > is simple.

In the Panther version of Mail, if not in earlier versions, if you have
an open message window (not a message pane below the message list), and
reply to the message, the message window becomes, or is replaced by, the
reply window.

--
Never play strip tarot.
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In article ,
mike DeleteThis @POSTTOGROUP.invalid (Mike Rosenberg) wrote:



  > >
  > > I've never seen this happen in Mail, not even in earlier versions. Both
  > > the new message in preparation and message being replied to are
  > > open and can be made active by clicking on the desired window.
 >
 > Are you viewing the message in a separate window as Madeline is, as
 > opposed to the split-screen in the main message window? Viewing
 > messages in a separate window, which I prefer, I've only ever seen the
 > behavior that she described and know of no way to change it.

No. I've never seen any reason to do so -- the split screen is perfectly
usable to read and reply with. Opening the separate window seems to be
just extra bother unless I need to view more than one message at a time.
I guess I'm just lazy!

In any event I don't know how to reply to more than one message at a
time, and apparently, it complicates replys if the original is necesary
to view concurrently.

--
Rod Smith
Florida Panhandle
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In article ,
Rod Smith <rodsmith.TakeThisOut@mac.com> wrote:

 > No. I've never seen any reason to do so -- the split screen is perfectly
 > usable to read and reply with. Opening the separate window seems to be
 > just extra bother unless I need to view more than one message at a time.
 > I guess I'm just lazy!

I didn't use the split window until I got a computer with a larger
monitor than the 15" CRT iMac. There just wasn't enough space on the
screen.

I tend to copy and paste-as-quote as I go along, rather than quoting the
entire message and cutting the extraneous parts; that's what makes
keeping the message window open a good idea--at least as a user option,
if not a permanent thing.

--Michelle

--
Never play strip tarot.
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In article ,
Rod Smith <rodsmith.DeleteThis@mac.com> wrote:


 >
 >the split screen is perfectly
 >usable to read and reply with. Opening the separate window seems to be
 >just extra bother unless I need to view more than one message at a time.

The main reason to *never* use the split screen is to avoid advertising
your existence to spammers. With a separate window, you can select a
message for deletion without downloading it (in the case of IMAP) and
reading it. As soon as you select a message in the paned windows, the
message is displayed, which, if it is HTML encoded, can load images from
the web and tell the spammers that you are a live prospect for further
spams. So there. :-)

--
Art Gorski * Mac Integration Staff * Rice University * Houston, Texas
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In article ,
Art Gorski <agorskiNOSPAM.DeleteThis@rice.edu> wrote:




  > >the split screen is perfectly
  > >usable to read and reply with. Opening the separate window seems to be
  > >just extra bother unless I need to view more than one message at a time.
 >
 > The main reason to *never* use the split screen is to avoid advertising
 > your existence to spammers. With a separate window, you can select a
 > message for deletion without downloading it (in the case of IMAP) and
 > reading it. As soon as you select a message in the paned windows, the
 > message is displayed, which, if it is HTML encoded, can load images from
 > the web and tell the spammers that you are a live prospect for further
 > spams. So there. :-)

I'm with you. I guess i like all that extra bother. ;)
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In article ,
Art Gorski <agorskiNOSPAM.RemoveThis@rice.edu> wrote:

 > The main reason to *never* use the split screen is to avoid
 > advertising your existence to spammers. With a separate window, you
 > can select a message for deletion without downloading it (in the case
 > of IMAP) and reading it. As soon as you select a message in the
 > paned windows, the message is displayed, which, if it is HTML
 > encoded, can load images from the web and tell the spammers that you
 > are a live prospect for further spams. So there. :-)

If you select more than one message, nothing is displayed. So, when I
receive spam that gets through the spam filter, I'll first select a
non-spam document, then command-click on the spams, then command-click
on the non-spam, then click on the Junk icon.

Alternatively, I'll open the list pane so that there is no preview pane,
click on the spam and the click the Junk button.

It sounds like more work than it actually is.

Oh, by the way, I modified the Junk rules to mark the messages as read,
so the Junk folder is never bold.

--Michelle

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In article , Art
Gorski wrote:



 >

  > >
  > >the split screen is perfectly
  > >usable to read and reply with. Opening the separate window seems to be
  > >just extra bother unless I need to view more than one message at a time.
 >
 > The main reason to *never* use the split screen is to avoid advertising
 > your existence to spammers.

I use the split screen, and provide no information to spammers. The
spam message is already on my mail server, IMAP or not. The spammer
doesn't know when I read it. Spammers get feedback by your loading
specific images from an HTML message, which Mail allows you to NOT do:

Mail->Preferences->Viewing->Display images and embedded objects in HTML
messages.

When an HTML message comes up, a bar is added to the message that says
"This message contains unloaded images," with a button to Load Images.
Don't click it, and no feedback to the spammers. Split-screen is thus
perfectly safe.

So there yourself. :-)

--
Garner R. Miller
Manchester, CT =USA=
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