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Joe Davison

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Since: Feb 18, 2004
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 9:15 pm
Post subject: Mail.app problem
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I'm running 10.2.6 on a G4 with plentyoRam. I use the standard
Mail.app. It's been working fine.

I subscribe to ACM Technews which sends out synopses of news that might
be of interest with links to their pages with more details.

It's been working fine, until this week. Suddenly the appearance
changed and the links don't work... They're underlined, as usual, but
clicking on them doesn't open them in my browser (Safari) -- holding
down the button to bring up the context menu shows the "follow link"
option is greyed out -- they're not being recognized as links, it seems.


So, I opened the mbox in xemacs and looked to see what was different.

The old messages have:
 > MIME-Version: 1.0
 > X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72)
 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

and a link is like:
 > Top Stories for Monday, December 15, 2003:
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.acm.org/technews/current/homepage.html</font" target="_blank">http://www.acm.org/technews/current/homepage.html</font</a>>


The new messages have:
 > MIME-Version: 1.0
 > X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72)
 > Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
 > boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C3C4CC.0532BE90"

and the "same" link is like:
 > Top Stories for Wednesday, December 17, 2003:
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.acm.org/technews/current/homepage.html</font" target="_blank">http://www.acm.org/technews/current/homepage.html</font</a>>
(i.e. no significant change).

Furthermore, the NextPart... has

 > Content-Type: text/html;
 > charset="iso-8859-1"
 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

and contains the same message, html encoded, with
header:

 > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN">
 > <HTML>
 > <HEAD>
 > <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; =
 > charset=3Diso-8859-1">
 > <META NAME=3D"Generator" CONTENT=3D"MS Exchange Server version =
 > 5.5.2653.12">
 > <TITLE>ACM TechNews - Wednesday, December 17, 2003</TITLE>
 > </HEAD>
 > <BODY>
 > <BR>

and the link as:
 > <P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Top Stories for Wednesday, December =
 > 17, 2003:</FONT>
 > <BR><U><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"><A =
 > HREF=3D"http://www.acm.org/technews/current/homepage.html" =
 > TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.acm.org/technews/current/homepage.html</A><=
 > /FONT></U>
 > </P>

All that seems approximately reasonable, so what's the problem?

However, what's with the '3D's stuffed in there?


Is this a bug in Mail.app, in the wonderful MS Exchange Server, in
Safari, in me, or what?

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Since: Aug 07, 2003
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 10:55 pm
Post subject: Re: Mail.app problem [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Joe Davison <haltingNOSPAM DeleteThis @comcast.net> wrote:
 >
 > I'm running 10.2.6 on a G4 with plentyoRam. I use the standard
 > Mail.app. It's been working fine.
 >
 > I subscribe to ACM Technews which sends out synopses of news that might
 > be of interest with links to their pages with more details.
 >
 > and the "same" link is like:
  > > Top Stories for Wednesday, December 17, 2003:
<font color=green>  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.acm.org/technews/current/homepage.html</font" target="_blank">http://www.acm.org/technews/current/homepage.html</font</a>>
 > (i.e. no significant change).
 >
 > Furthermore, the NextPart... has
 >
  > > Content-Type: text/html;
  > > charset="iso-8859-1"
  > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


I'm using the Mail.app on OS X 10.3.2 as of today and I get the ACM
Technews too. Not having any problems with the links. However,
The copy of the Technews I receive from the ACM is not in html.
It comes to me in plain text. I can forward you a December 10th,
copy of the Technews that I got if you like. Just drop me an email
and I'll forward it to you.
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John Hill

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Since: Jul 02, 2003
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 2:43 pm
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Joe Davison <haltingNOSPAM.RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote:

 > I'm running 10.2.6 on a G4 with plentyoRam. I use the standard
 > Mail.app. It's been working fine.
 >
 > I subscribe to ACM Technews which sends out synopses of news that might
 > be of interest with links to their pages with more details.
 >
 > It's been working fine, until this week. Suddenly the appearance
 > changed and the links don't work... They're underlined, as usual, but
 > clicking on them doesn't open them in my browser (Safari) -- holding
 > down the button to bring up the context menu shows the "follow link"
 > option is greyed out -- they're not being recognized as links, it seems.

Snip...

 > Is this a bug in Mail.app, in the wonderful MS Exchange Server, in
 > Safari, in me, or what?
 >
 > joe

I not sure it's a bug, as such, but it's certainly a problem.

I get a number of mail list items in which the links don't work. Maplin
Electronics is one example. I referred it to the Maplin and they tried
to sort it out without success, so I've changed my options from rich to
plain text for that source. Some lists don't give you the option :-(

I think it's something to do with framing - I'm no html expert,
pig-ignorant in fact - but if I save the message as Raw Message Source
and find the links there, they work fine.

So it's the way they are contained in the html that Mail.app doesn't
like, not the links themselves.

Maybe an "alternative" way of using HTML is being used that isn't quite
kosher, and Apple is being pedantic about it?

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