Is the Mini audio out equivalent to iBook audio out?

As I said in another post the mac mini is also an ibook so they will be the
same.

in article no-3D074E.11171029052005.TakeThisOut@news.fastermac.net, hoarse with no name
at no.TakeThisOut@2spam.com wrote on 30/5/05 4:17 AM:

 >
 > My CD player broke years ago and so I hooked up my 2001 dual USB iBook
 > to my receiver as an emergency measure. It worked out so well that I
 > never bought a new CD player. I am thinking of buying a Mini and want to
 > make sure that I can use it in the same way, and hopefully with the same
 > cables. Is the audio output from the Mini's audio jack the equivalent to
 > my old iBook's and will it use the same cables?
 >
 > TIA<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Entity Jef Tenner spoke thus:

 > As I said in another post the mac mini is also an ibook so they will be the
 > same.
One wonders if you really assume we are bored enough to read all your
posts...

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It occurred to me that Jef Tenner wrote in comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:
 > As I said in another post the mac mini is also an ibook so they will be the
 > same.

Could I have some of that stuff you've been smoking? Seems pretty potent
to me!

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Well you can say what you like but they work the same

in article slrnd9k7gc.nd9.pino.RemoveThis@mud.stack.nl, Martijn van Buul at
pino.RemoveThis@dohd.org wrote on 30/5/05 5:54 AM:

 > It occurred to me that Jef Tenner wrote in comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:
  >> As I said in another post the mac mini is also an ibook so they will be the
  >> same.
 >
 > Could I have some of that stuff you've been smoking? Seems pretty potent
 > to me!<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Gnarlodious wrote:

 > Entity Jef Tenner spoke thus:
 >
 >
  >>As I said in another post the mac mini is also an ibook so they will be the
  >>same.
 >
 > One wonders if you really assume we are bored enough to read all your
 > posts...
 >
Using Thunderbird here. I can see how to create a junkfile for private
email, but have no idea how to do similar for newgroups.

Any help appreciated.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Paul Sture wrote:
 > Gnarlodious wrote:
 >
  >> Entity Jef Tenner spoke thus:
  >>
  >>
   >>> As I said in another post the mac mini is also an ibook so they will
   >>> be the
   >>> same.
  >>
  >>
  >> One wonders if you really assume we are bored enough to read all your
  >> posts...
  >>
 > Using Thunderbird here. I can see how to create a junkfile for private
 > email, but have no idea how to do similar for newgroups.
 >
 > Any help appreciated.

Have you looked at Tools->Message Filters... ?

Andy<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Andy Mulhearn wrote:
 > Paul Sture wrote:
 >
  >> Gnarlodious wrote:
  >>
   >>> Entity Jef Tenner spoke thus:
   >>>
   >>>
   >>>> As I said in another post the mac mini is also an ibook so they will
   >>>> be the
   >>>> same.
   >>>
   >>>
   >>>
   >>> One wonders if you really assume we are bored enough to read all your
   >>> posts...
   >>>
  >> Using Thunderbird here. I can see how to create a junkfile for private
  >> email, but have no idea how to do similar for newgroups.
  >>
  >> Any help appreciated.
 >
 >
 > Have you looked at Tools->Message Filters... ?
 >
Yep. And I've just upgraded to the latest version to see if that helped,
but still no joy.

The most amazing thing is that entering "killfile" into Thunderbird help
reveals no matches whatsoever.

I really think I must look for another product, for I fear they have
lost the plot in terms of what _I_ wish to do.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Paul Sture wrote:
 > Andy Mulhearn wrote:
 >
  >> Paul Sture wrote:
  >>
   >>> Gnarlodious wrote:
   >>>
   >>>> Entity Jef Tenner spoke thus:
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>>> As I said in another post the mac mini is also an ibook so they
   >>>>> will be the
   >>>>> same.
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>> One wonders if you really assume we are bored enough to read all your
   >>>> posts...
   >>>>
   >>> Using Thunderbird here. I can see how to create a junkfile for private
   >>> email, but have no idea how to do similar for newgroups.
   >>>
   >>> Any help appreciated.
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> Have you looked at Tools->Message Filters... ?
  >>
 > Yep. And I've just upgraded to the latest version to see if that helped,
 > but still no joy.
 >
 > The most amazing thing is that entering "killfile" into Thunderbird help
 > reveals no matches whatsoever.
 >
 > I really think I must look for another product, for I fear they have
 > lost the plot in terms of what _I_ wish to do.

Having checked and looked at Google it appears this is for e-mail only,
less than usefly IMHO. Apologies for sending you on a wild goose chase.

I've not had the need to use a killfile on a newsreader so it hasn't
ocurred to me that this doesn't work. As you say it was suggested for
1.0 but has clearly slipped :(

I too have been looking for a newsreader to replace Thunderbird having
got fed up with it's poor handling of SPAM (how many times do I have to
mark as junk a meessage with Penis Extension in the title before it
get's the idea I want to filter those messages?) and gone back to
mail.app which handles spam extraordinarily well. I haven't found
anything on OSX that can replace Firefox fore news though. Not without
spending money. I did use HogWasher a year ago before a stint on the
darkside. Perhaps I can find my registration key.


I've also got fed up with Firefox looping and taking all my CPU time so
am back with Safari, but that's another story.

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Andy Mulhearn wrote:
 > Paul Sture wrote:
 >
  >> Andy Mulhearn wrote:
  >>
   >>> Paul Sture wrote:
   >>>
   >>>> Gnarlodious wrote:
   >>>>
   >>>>> Entity Jef Tenner spoke thus:
   >>>>>
   >>>>>
   >>>>>> As I said in another post the mac mini is also an ibook so they
   >>>>>> will be the
   >>>>>> same.
   >>>>>
   >>>>>
   >>>>>
   >>>>>
   >>>>>
   >>>>> One wonders if you really assume we are bored enough to read all your
   >>>>> posts...
   >>>>>
   >>>> Using Thunderbird here. I can see how to create a junkfile for private
   >>>> email, but have no idea how to do similar for newgroups.
   >>>>
   >>>> Any help appreciated.
   >>>
   >>>
   >>>
   >>>
   >>> Have you looked at Tools->Message Filters... ?
   >>>
  >> Yep. And I've just upgraded to the latest version to see if that
  >> helped, but still no joy.
  >>
  >> The most amazing thing is that entering "killfile" into Thunderbird
  >> help reveals no matches whatsoever.
  >>
  >> I really think I must look for another product, for I fear they have
  >> lost the plot in terms of what _I_ wish to do.
 >
 >
 > Having checked and looked at Google it appears this is for e-mail only,
 > less than usefly IMHO. Apologies for sending you on a wild goose chase.
 >

No problem. Thanks for trying.

 > I've not had the need to use a killfile on a newsreader so it hasn't
 > ocurred to me that this doesn't work. As you say it was suggested for
 > 1.0 but has clearly slipped :(
 >

My first newsreader 10 years ago (a Windows one, unfortunately now dead)
had such a facility, but I didn't really need the filters until the
spammers went berserk.

 > I too have been looking for a newsreader to replace Thunderbird having
 > got fed up with it's poor handling of SPAM (how many times do I have to
 > mark as junk a meessage with Penis Extension in the title before it
 > get's the idea I want to filter those messages?) and gone back to
 > mail.app which handles spam extraordinarily well. I haven't found
 > anything on OSX that can replace Firefox fore news though. Not without
 > spending money. I did use HogWasher a year ago before a stint on the
 > darkside. Perhaps I can find my registration key.
 >

It's not just the poor handling of spam which gets me. The so-called
offline facility of Thunderbird is next to useless to me, as it only
downloads message headers rather than the full text. Even 10 years ago
on a dial up line, I found it cheaper to download the lot rather than
selecting which ones I wanted the full text for and going online again.

 > I've also got fed up with Firefox looping and taking all my CPU time so
 > am back with Safari, but that's another story.

Yep. When I was running Mozilla on a 64 bit Alpha, it would clock up 100
I/Os a second, though I've no idea why.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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On Sun, 29 May 2005 23:14:22 +0100, Paul Sture wrote
(in article <3fut55F9qc1kU1.TakeThisOut@individual.net>):

 > Andy Mulhearn wrote:
  >> Paul Sture wrote:

[snipped]

  >> I've not had the need to use a killfile on a newsreader so it hasn't
  >> ocurred to me that this doesn't work. As you say it was suggested for
  >> 1.0 but has clearly slipped :(
  >>
 >
 > My first newsreader 10 years ago (a Windows one, unfortunately now dead)
 > had such a facility, but I didn't really need the filters until the
 > spammers went berserk.

I see little spam, the guys that run news.individual.net seem to have that
under control.

 >
  >> I too have been looking for a newsreader to replace Thunderbird having
  >> got fed up with it's poor handling of SPAM (how many times do I have to
  >> mark as junk a meessage with Penis Extension in the title before it
  >> get's the idea I want to filter those messages?) and gone back to
  >> mail.app which handles spam extraordinarily well. I haven't found
  >> anything on OSX that can replace Firefox fore news though. Not without
  >> spending money. I did use HogWasher a year ago before a stint on the
  >> darkside. Perhaps I can find my registration key.
  >>
 >
 > It's not just the poor handling of spam which gets me. The so-called
 > offline facility of Thunderbird is next to useless to me, as it only
 > downloads message headers rather than the full text. Even 10 years ago
 > on a dial up line, I found it cheaper to download the lot rather than
 > selecting which ones I wanted the full text for and going online again.

I found offline very hit and miss. POP is fine. IMAP (.Mac) unusable and news
unpredictable.

 >
  >> I've also got fed up with Firefox looping and taking all my CPU time so
  >> am back with Safari, but that's another story.
 >
 > Yep. When I was running Mozilla on a 64 bit Alpha, it would clock up 100
 > I/Os a second, though I've no idea why.

Still better than IE on windows though.

I've just switched to HogWasher. It has a slightly quirky interface but can
be tweaked.

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Andy Mulhearn wrote:
 > On Sun, 29 May 2005 23:14:22 +0100, Paul Sture wrote
 > (in article <3fut55F9qc1kU1.RemoveThis@individual.net>):
 >
 >
  >>Andy Mulhearn wrote:
  >>
   >>>Paul Sture wrote:
 >
 >
 > [snipped]
 >
 >
   >>>I've not had the need to use a killfile on a newsreader so it hasn't
   >>>ocurred to me that this doesn't work. As you say it was suggested for
   >>>1.0 but has clearly slipped :(
   >>>
  >>
  >>My first newsreader 10 years ago (a Windows one, unfortunately now dead)
  >>had such a facility, but I didn't really need the filters until the
  >>spammers went berserk.
 >
 >
 > I see little spam, the guys that run news.individual.net seem to have that
 > under control.

Yes, they do indeed, though unfortunately I fell victim to whatever
virus it was (Code Red? - around that time slot anyway) which was
harvesting email addresses from newsgroups.

<snip>

 >
   >>>I've also got fed up with Firefox looping and taking all my CPU time so
   >>>am back with Safari, but that's another story.
  >>

I myself use Safari with JS disabled, and keep FireFox with JS enabled
_only_ for the sites where I need it - and then from a non-admin account.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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