Erik Richard Sørensen <NOSPAM RemoveThis @NOSPAM.dk> wrote:
> David Empson wrote:
> > Erik Richard Sørensen <NOSPAM RemoveThis @NOSPAM.dk> wrote:
> >> David Empson wrote:
> >>> Same with FileMaker Pro 5.5, for that matter. And that was a copy I
> >>> originally installed in Mac OS 9 on my PowerMac 8600 and copied over to
> >>> my MacBook Pro.
> >> I'm sure you are wrong here. There are three different versions of FMP
> >> 5.5 - a Mac only CD (system 7.6.1 to 9.2.2), a Win only (Win98sr2 to
> >> Win2000*)) CD and a Mac/Win hybrid CD with same system requirements.
> >
> > I've dug out my FMP 5.5 CD. It has exactly the same structure as my 6.0
> > CD. It is a hybrid (Mac plus Windows), with Classic and Mac OS X
> > installers on the Mac volume.
> > The CD's modification date is 10 April 2001. Its FileMaker part number
> > is U01073-001A.
>
> OK, - again mine is only Os 9.x and windows and is only a 5.5v1. It is
> from Febr. 2001. This leads me to think that they've changed the
> installation types with the second release of the 5.5.
Judging by the press release on the FileMaker web site, they didn't
announce FileMaker Pro 5.5 until May. I expect it was in the hands of
FileMaker Developers prior to that for beta testing. You might have a
pre-release version.
That doesn't explain your 6.0. It is a year newer (my CD modification
date is 24 May 2002), by which time Mac OS X was well established.
> > I have the standard Australia and New Zealand retail edition, and all
> > evidence I can find says that the US edition is exactly like mine.
>
> My FMP 5.5 and 6.0 are both US vrsions. But i know from my earlier job
> that there are differences in what was sold here in Scandinavia and the
> rest of europe, trying to keep prices as low as possible to matcdh up
> with 4th Dimension, which had a big marketshare here at the time of the
> release of 5.5 and 6.0. I can also see that on the labels are printed
> "Printed in Denmark" and not as on my ver. "Printed in U.S. by Filemaker
> Inc.", - also my older versions (2.1 to 5.0) are labelled "printed in
> Denmark".... - This is the only way I can explain the differences.
My CD labels don't say "printed in" anywhere. They mention the USA in
the context of declaring "FileMaker" as a trademark.
I suppose I should take a photo and put it on my web server for your to
compare. (No scanner.)
> > Quote from the PDF Getting Started guide for FMP 6.0 in my installed
> > copy:
> >
> > Mac OS requirements
> > * an Apple computer that supports and is running Mac OS 8.6,
> > Mac OS 9 versions 9.0 through 9.2.2, or Mac OS X versions 10.1
> > through 10.1.4
> >
> > (It actually works on any subsequent version of Mac OS X as well, but
> > some features might be broken in Leopard.)
>
> As you can see, I neither can verify or disvery this, since I can't
> install them on OS X.
>
> Also that I've run ver. 6.0 on a system 7.6.1 doesn't mean taht all
> features were available. - I had it on an old POwerBook 190 with the
> orig. 7.6.1 installed. It was slow and heavy to work with, but it worked
I just tried running my 5.5 on Mac OS 7.6.1 (on my PowerMac 8600). It
refuses to run, bringing up a generic error dialog.
"FileMaker Pro could not be lauched because of incorrect installation,
mising system components, or insufficient memory. Please see the
FileMaker Pro documentation."
Admittedly this is a copy I dragged from one partition to another
(original installation was on HFS+, which is inaccessible, so I copied
it to an HFS partition). I wouldn't expect any system level problems.
FMP 4.0 works via the same method, and the same drag and drop method
worked fine when copying FMP 5.5 to my Mac OS X computer.
To prove the point, I ran the FMP 5.5 Classic installer from my CD. It
refused to proceed, saying it requires Mac OS 8.1 or later.
My FMP 6.0 Classic installer says it requires Mac OS 8.6 or later. I
don't really want to install it under Mac OS 9 and then restart in 7.6.1
again to further prove this point.
> > I'm still dubious about your general claim as to old applications not
> > running in 10.2 and later, but FileMaker Pro is the only one you listed
> > which can lay my hands on quickly, and I am absolutely certain you are
> > wrong on that one, at least for MY copies of FileMaker Pro 5.5 and 6.0.
> >
> > (I can probably dig out iMovie 2.0.x, I have Corel Graphics 8 somewhere,
> > and I do have a version of 4th Dimension, but don't recall which one.)
>
> I've just looked again. On both Corelgraphics and 4th Dimension is
> clearly written "only for PPC Macs running Os 9"
That may be in reference to older computers and OS versions - you can't
run them on a 68K Mac, or on Mac OS 8.6 or earlier.
I've confirmed that I have Corel Graphics 8 and 4th Dimension 6.5. They
are presently installed on my PowerMac 8600 but I haven't yet dug out
the install CDs.
They are both Classic appliations (not Carbon) so they don't work on an
Intel Mac or on 10.5, but may run on a PowerPC Mac under 10.4 or
earlier, in the Classic environment.
> >> As I've written, I really doubt your results here, since I as already
> >> written have all versions from 2.1 and up to 7.0v3. The only one that
> >> can be installed on both OS 9.2.x and OS X is the ver. 7.0v3.
> >
> > That is not correct. FMP 7.0 doesn't run on Mac OS 9 at all (or in the
> > Classic environment). It requires Mac OS X (10.2.8, in fact).
> >
> > FMP 6.0 was the last version which runs on Mac OS 9.
>
> Now I'm confused.:-( - I've done this on a booted Os 9.2.2 on my QS dual
> 1,8ghz. But right now I can't dis- or verify it again, since one of my
> monitors have burned off and my local network is down, so right now I'm
> connected directly to the net with my MacPro only....
I just tried copying my Mac OS X installation of FMP 7.0v3 to my
PowerMac 8600 (Mac OS 9.1). It doesn't launch. I also can't launch the
installer on the CD.
Mac OS 9.1 sees both the copied application and the installer as a
package but not a valid application.
'The package "FileMaker Pro 7" could not be opened, because it cannot be
used with this version of the Mac OS or there is a problem with it. If
there is a problem with it, try reinstalling the package.'
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