Powerpoint Postscript errors using two-color gradient back..

It's always printed fine on

What version of PPT are you using? We're using 10.1.4. I'm not sure what
updates they've done, but this particular user we're having problems with is
an early adopter and may be somewhat back-rev. He is able to print his
charts if he drops to classic mode PPT 2001 without a hitch. They also
print fine from any version of Windows PPT that we've tried...

As far as colors are concerned we've tried lots of different combinations.
All fail. We've also tried reducing the image size (in case the gradient is
running off the printable area of the printer) and it still fails.
Weierd...

Printing to PDF then printing the PDF seems to work.

Thanks!

Mike

This just in as I was typing this - our Mac person tried printing it on an
HP 8550 and it printed fine. Fails on all our 4500 and 4550 printers
though... This user, of course, has a 45xx printer. Sigh...

Steve Rindsberg" <abuse.RemoveThis@localhost.com> wrote in message
news:ezsYlsYrDHA.2892@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
 > Hm. Just tried a twocolor grad and it prints ok to a B/W PS printer (HP
 > Laserjet 4V/M) from PPT-X
 >
 > I wonder if we can isolate it further -- what colors did you use, what
 > gradient direction, was there an outline or no, was transparency applied
to
 > either of the colors ... etc.
 >
 > As a workaround, what happens if you save to PDF then print the PDF?
 >
 > "Michael C. Newell" <MNewell.RemoveThis@Hq.NASA.Gov> wrote in message
 > news:u046uWUrDHA.1600@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
  > > We are having a problem with PowerPoint on OS-X (V10.2.6). One of our
 > users
  > > was trying to use a two-color gradient background on his slides and they
  > > were not printing. When we enabled Postscript error printing on the
  > > printers (various color HP models) the gradient printed and embedded in
it
  > > was the error:
  > >
  > > ERROR: undefinedresult
  > > OFFENDING COMMAND: div
  > >
  > > STACK:
  > >
  > > 0.0
  > > 0.0
  > > -dictionary-
  > >
  > > Clearly PPT is generating Postscript that wants to do a divide by zero.
  > > This only happens with the two color gradient background; if we change
the
  > > slides to use one color gradient (or a solid color) the error does not
  > > occur. This happens independent of the PPD (we tried Generic Postscript
 > and
  > > just for fun the Lexmark PPD), and it also occurs if we just create a
new
  > > presentation with a two color gradient background.
  > >
  > > Can anyone out there shed some light on this?
  > >
  > > Thanks!
  > >
  > > Mike Newell
  > > NASA HQ ISEM contract chief engineer
  > > MNewell.RemoveThis@Hq.NASA.Gov
  > >
  > >
 >
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 > What version of PPT are you using? We're using 10.1.4. I'm not sure
what
 > updates they've done, but this particular user we're having problems with
is
 > an early adopter and may be somewhat back-rev.

About PowerPoint says PowerPoint X SR1
I haven't grabbed any updates to that, however.

 > As far as colors are concerned we've tried lots of different combinations.
 > All fail. We've also tried reducing the image size (in case the gradient
is
 > running off the printable area of the printer) and it still fails.
 > Weierd...

Between that and your other info, it makes me wonder if it's not some
peculiarity of the PS RIP in the printer.
PS is actually a kind of programming language; the PS an app sends out can
query the printer and ask it questions like "What resolution are you set
to?" and then adjust the way they do things like gradients accordingly. On
the PC, PPT's PS doesn't do this - a pity, as it would be a major
improvement, but it may be limited to what the operating system provides.
I've never torn apart the PS from Mac/PPT, but it might be doing something
of the sort. The resolution can effect the way you optimize gradients ....
if it's querying the printer for that and getting back a zero or null
instead of a valid value ... well .... you've seen the smoke, right? ;-)

 > Printing to PDF then printing the PDF seems to work.
 >
 > Thanks!
 >
 > Mike
 >
 > This just in as I was typing this - our Mac person tried printing it on an
 > HP 8550 and it printed fine. Fails on all our 4500 and 4550 printers
 > though... This user, of course, has a 45xx printer. Sigh...
 >
 > Steve Rindsberg" <abuse DeleteThis @localhost.com> wrote in message
 > news:ezsYlsYrDHA.2892@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
  > > Hm. Just tried a twocolor grad and it prints ok to a B/W PS printer (HP
  > > Laserjet 4V/M) from PPT-X
  > >
  > > I wonder if we can isolate it further -- what colors did you use, what
  > > gradient direction, was there an outline or no, was transparency applied
 > to
  > > either of the colors ... etc.
  > >
  > > As a workaround, what happens if you save to PDF then print the PDF?
  > >
  > > "Michael C. Newell" <MNewell DeleteThis @Hq.NASA.Gov> wrote in message
  > > news:u046uWUrDHA.1600@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
   > > > We are having a problem with PowerPoint on OS-X (V10.2.6). One of our
  > > users
   > > > was trying to use a two-color gradient background on his slides and
they
   > > > were not printing. When we enabled Postscript error printing on the
   > > > printers (various color HP models) the gradient printed and embedded
in
 > it
   > > > was the error:
   > > >
   > > > ERROR: undefinedresult
   > > > OFFENDING COMMAND: div
   > > >
   > > > STACK:
   > > >
   > > > 0.0
   > > > 0.0
   > > > -dictionary-
   > > >
   > > > Clearly PPT is generating Postscript that wants to do a divide by
zero.
   > > > This only happens with the two color gradient background; if we change
 > the
   > > > slides to use one color gradient (or a solid color) the error does not
   > > > occur. This happens independent of the PPD (we tried Generic
Postscript
  > > and
   > > > just for fun the Lexmark PPD), and it also occurs if we just create a
 > new
   > > > presentation with a two color gradient background.
   > > >
   > > > Can anyone out there shed some light on this?
   > > >
   > > > Thanks!
   > > >
   > > > Mike Newell
   > > > NASA HQ ISEM contract chief engineer
   > > > MNewell DeleteThis @Hq.NASA.Gov
   > > >
   > > >
  > >
  > >
 >
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 >> Stay informed about: Powerpoint Postscript errors using two-color gradient back.. 

Yeah - I actually got enormously interested in PostScript many years ago
when the printers first came out. In fact there's a book called "Thinking
Postscript" that turns out to have been written by a former college
classmate of mine; I bought it as a reference when it first came out and
didn't realize until years later who the author was. :-) Years ago (yeah -
I'm old!) when upgrading Laserwriters there were some anomolies on the
macros and I used to have to go in a patch the PPDs to produce the right
code...

The problem is clearly a divide by zero in the Postscript generated by
Powerpoint. Why it only occurs on HP 4xxx printers is interesting. I'm
going to play with routing the job through Ghostscript and generating PCL to
see if the problem goes away for this user. Lots of effort so someone can
print a two-color gradient background... :-)

Thanks!

Mike


"Steve Rindsberg" <abuse.TakeThisOut@localhost.com> wrote in message
news:Oz$DMJtrDHA.2304@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
  > > What version of PPT are you using? We're using 10.1.4. I'm not sure
 > what
  > > updates they've done, but this particular user we're having problems
with
 > is
  > > an early adopter and may be somewhat back-rev.
 >
 > About PowerPoint says PowerPoint X SR1
 > I haven't grabbed any updates to that, however.
 >
  > > As far as colors are concerned we've tried lots of different
combinations.
  > > All fail. We've also tried reducing the image size (in case the
gradient
 > is
  > > running off the printable area of the printer) and it still fails.
  > > Weierd...
 >
 > Between that and your other info, it makes me wonder if it's not some
 > peculiarity of the PS RIP in the printer.
 > PS is actually a kind of programming language; the PS an app sends out can
 > query the printer and ask it questions like "What resolution are you set
 > to?" and then adjust the way they do things like gradients accordingly.
On
 > the PC, PPT's PS doesn't do this - a pity, as it would be a major
 > improvement, but it may be limited to what the operating system provides.
 > I've never torn apart the PS from Mac/PPT, but it might be doing something
 > of the sort. The resolution can effect the way you optimize gradients
.....
 > if it's querying the printer for that and getting back a zero or null
 > instead of a valid value ... well .... you've seen the smoke, right? ;-)
 >
  > > Printing to PDF then printing the PDF seems to work.
  > >
  > > Thanks!
  > >
  > > Mike
  > >
  > > This just in as I was typing this - our Mac person tried printing it on
an
  > > HP 8550 and it printed fine. Fails on all our 4500 and 4550 printers
  > > though... This user, of course, has a 45xx printer. Sigh...
  > >
  > > Steve Rindsberg" <abuse.TakeThisOut@localhost.com> wrote in message
  > > news:ezsYlsYrDHA.2892@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
   > > > Hm. Just tried a twocolor grad and it prints ok to a B/W PS printer
(HP
   > > > Laserjet 4V/M) from PPT-X
   > > >
   > > > I wonder if we can isolate it further -- what colors did you use, what
   > > > gradient direction, was there an outline or no, was transparency
applied
  > > to
   > > > either of the colors ... etc.
   > > >
   > > > As a workaround, what happens if you save to PDF then print the PDF?
   > > >
   > > > "Michael C. Newell" <MNewell.TakeThisOut@Hq.NASA.Gov> wrote in message
   > > > news:u046uWUrDHA.1600@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
   > > > > We are having a problem with PowerPoint on OS-X (V10.2.6). One of
our
   > > > users
   > > > > was trying to use a two-color gradient background on his slides and
 > they
   > > > > were not printing. When we enabled Postscript error printing on the
   > > > > printers (various color HP models) the gradient printed and embedded
 > in
  > > it
   > > > > was the error:
   > > > >
   > > > > ERROR: undefinedresult
   > > > > OFFENDING COMMAND: div
   > > > >
   > > > > STACK:
   > > > >
   > > > > 0.0
   > > > > 0.0
   > > > > -dictionary-
   > > > >
   > > > > Clearly PPT is generating Postscript that wants to do a divide by
 > zero.
   > > > > This only happens with the two color gradient background; if we
change
  > > the
   > > > > slides to use one color gradient (or a solid color) the error does
not
   > > > > occur. This happens independent of the PPD (we tried Generic
 > Postscript
   > > > and
   > > > > just for fun the Lexmark PPD), and it also occurs if we just create
a
  > > new
   > > > > presentation with a two color gradient background.
   > > > >
   > > > > Can anyone out there shed some light on this?
   > > > >
   > > > > Thanks!
   > > > >
   > > > > Mike Newell
   > > > > NASA HQ ISEM contract chief engineer
   > > > > MNewell.TakeThisOut@Hq.NASA.Gov
   > > > >
   > > > >
   > > >
   > > >
  > >
  > >
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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