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Carl Witthoft

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Since: Mar 22, 2004
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 4:15 pm
Post subject: Problem w/ video on G3 AllInOne
Archived from groups: comp>sys>mac>hardware>video, others (more info?)

Here's a strange thing that just happened to my G3-AIO (same internals as a
desktop beige G3 for those who haven't seen an All-InOne). Out of the blue ,
my screen suddenly garbled: several vertical lines appeared, the mouse cursor
turned into a 1-inch square white box, and any time I moved a window or
scrolled, the screen tried to draw the new location but didn't clean up the
old, leaving massive amounts of illegible crud all over.

After trying many things (and cursing a lot), I found I could get the display
to behave properly only by removing all ATI extensions (2-d and 3-d accelerators
and a couple related things) from the Extensions Folder. I did remove a
bunch of Preferences files and I did a reinstall of OS 8.6; this made no
difference.

I ran a Norton System Diagnostic. It said my CPU was running at the same speed
as the G3 -333MHz benchmark, but that my video performance was about a factor of
6 low -- barely faster than a 6100 benchmark.

I've also reset the PRAM and NVRAM. About the only things I haven't done are
to hit the CUDA button and to physically re-seat the graphics PCI card --which
is the one that came w/ this machine:
ATY Mach64-3DU Pro with 2Meg VRAM onboard.

So, is my apparently slow video related to turning off all ATI accelerators?
And can I test my ATI card, or should I just replace it?

Also -- is there any tool you know of I could use to test the VRAM on the card?

Many thanks in advance
Carl
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Cathy Stevenson

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Since: Oct 03, 2003
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 9:35 pm
Post subject: Re: Problem w/ video on G3 AllInOne [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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In article <carl-F9B3CD.13154816112003 RemoveThis @comcast.ash.giganews.com>, Carl
Witthoft <carl RemoveThis @witthoft.com> wrote:

 > Here's a strange thing that just happened to my G3-AIO (same internals as a
 > desktop beige G3 for those who haven't seen an All-InOne). Out of the blue
 > ,
 > my screen suddenly garbled: several vertical lines appeared, the mouse
 > cursor
 > turned into a 1-inch square white box, and any time I moved a window or
 > scrolled, the screen tried to draw the new location but didn't clean up the
 > old, leaving massive amounts of illegible crud all over.
 >
 > After trying many things (and cursing a lot), I found I could get the
 > display
 > to behave properly only by removing all ATI extensions (2-d and 3-d
 > accelerators
 > and a couple related things) from the Extensions Folder. I did remove a
 > bunch of Preferences files and I did a reinstall of OS 8.6; this made no
 > difference.
 >
 > I ran a Norton System Diagnostic. It said my CPU was running at the same
 > speed
 > as the G3 -333MHz benchmark, but that my video performance was about a factor
 > of
 > 6 low -- barely faster than a 6100 benchmark.
 >
 > I've also reset the PRAM and NVRAM. About the only things I haven't done
 > are
 > to hit the CUDA button and to physically re-seat the graphics PCI card
 > --which
 > is the one that came w/ this machine:
 > ATY Mach64-3DU Pro with 2Meg VRAM onboard.
 >
 > So, is my apparently slow video related to turning off all ATI accelerators?
 >
 > And can I test my ATI card, or should I just replace it?
 >
 > Also -- is there any tool you know of I could use to test the VRAM on the card?

Did you try downloading new driver/accelerator software from ATI,
reinstalling those?

Cathy

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Carl Witthoft

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 11:18 pm
Post subject: Re: Problem w/ video on G3 AllInOne [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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In article <161120031035055667%cats1921@sonic.net>,
Cathy Stevenson <cats1921.RemoveThis@sonic.net> wrote:

 > In article <carl-F9B3CD.13154816112003.RemoveThis@comcast.ash.giganews.com>, Carl
 > Witthoft <carl.RemoveThis@witthoft.com> wrote:
 >
  > > Here's a strange thing that just happened to my G3-AIO (same internals as
  > > a
  > > desktop beige G3 for those who haven't seen an All-InOne). Out of the
  > > blue
  > > ,
  > > my screen suddenly garbled: several vertical lines appeared, the mouse
  > > cursor
  > > turned into a 1-inch square white box, and any time I moved a window or
  > > scrolled, the screen tried to draw the new location but didn't clean up
  > > the
  > > old, leaving massive amounts of illegible crud all over.
  > >
[snip]
 >
 > Did you try downloading new driver/accelerator software from ATI,
 > reinstalling those?
 >

Well, I installed OpenGL package which includes new ATI drivers. But keep in
mind that everything had worked perfectly fine for 3 years now, so I strongly
doubt it's the drivers themselves (given that I replaced the actual files, so
any corruption would have been removed).
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Cathy Stevenson

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 8:19 pm
Post subject: Re: Problem w/ video on G3 AllInOne [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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In article <carl-D835C1.20180616112003 DeleteThis @comcast.ash.giganews.com>, Carl
Witthoft <carl DeleteThis @witthoft.com> wrote:

 > In article <161120031035055667%cats1921@sonic.net>,
 > Cathy Stevenson <cats1921 DeleteThis @sonic.net> wrote:
 >
  > > In article <carl-F9B3CD.13154816112003 DeleteThis @comcast.ash.giganews.com>, Carl
  > > Witthoft <carl DeleteThis @witthoft.com> wrote:
  > >
   > > > Here's a strange thing that just happened to my G3-AIO (same internals
   > > > as
   > > > a
   > > > desktop beige G3 for those who haven't seen an All-InOne). Out of the
   > > > blue
   > > > ,
   > > > my screen suddenly garbled: several vertical lines appeared, the mouse
   > > > cursor
   > > > turned into a 1-inch square white box, and any time I moved a window or
   > > > scrolled, the screen tried to draw the new location but didn't clean up
   > > > the
   > > > old, leaving massive amounts of illegible crud all over.
   > > >
 > [snip]
  > >
  > > Did you try downloading new driver/accelerator software from ATI,
  > > reinstalling those?
  > >
 >
 > Well, I installed OpenGL package which includes new ATI drivers. But keep
 > in
 > mind that everything had worked perfectly fine for 3 years now, so I strongly
 > doubt it's the drivers themselves (given that I replaced the actual files, so
 > any corruption would have been removed).

I was more interested in the "accelerator" reinstall. I mentioned the
drivers because, if you were going to reinstall the accelerators, you
might as well reinstall the drivers.

Cathy

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