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Michelle Steiner

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(Msg. 16) Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:25 pm
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:25 pm
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In article ,
Michelle Steiner wrote:

> In article ,
> Jolly Roger wrote:
>
> > > > > Check what scripting additions you have loaded. Here, OS X 10.5.4, I
> > > > > get {"2", "15", "21", "PM"}.
> > > >
> > > > Peculiar... I get:
> > > >
> > > > {"3", "19", "50", "PM"}
> > > >
> > > > Big difference! What gives?
> > >
> > > Did you run Software Update today? I just did, and now I get
> > >
> > > {"2", "59", "32", "PM"}
> >
> > This is SO... STRANGE... Now I get:
> >
> > {"7", "57", "32", "PM"}
> >
> > It's almost as if the numbers change every single time!!!
>
> It's magic, and only Mark Conrad can explain how it happens.

I almost wrote it off to time traveling rock stars.

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Jo_y

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 3:14 am
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Interesting things..
Anyway, my problem is solved. I like to have several options to filter
and call commands, not only direct referrals, because it turns handy
in a lot of manipulator operations.
(The 1.3.1400 was a Saturday)
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Simon Slavin1

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(Msg. 19) Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:34 pm
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On 23/07/2008, Patrick Stadelmann wrote in message <Patrick.Stadelmann-
32E5D5.21252823072008.DeleteThis@individual.net>:

> Michelle Steiner wrote:
>
> > words of time string of (current date)
> >
> > --> {"Jul", "23", "12", "01", "49", "PM"}
>
> Only the time is supposed to be returned in "time string" (which is the
> case in 10.4.11). If you really get "Jul" and "23" in the output of the
> command above in Leopard, submit a bug report.

What part of the above is a bug ?

'time string' gives you the time as a piece of text

'words of x' gives you a list of the words of a piece of text

that's what I see above. By the way, the actual string that's returned in
the string are influenced by what international settings you've chosen.
It's not a very good way to get the details of a date, it would be better
to get the value of the date and use date-related maths to do things with
it: seconds of theDate, month of theDate, etc..

Simon.
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Michelle Steiner

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(Msg. 20) Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:34 pm
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 8:46 am
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On 2008-07-25 16:34:13 -0400, Simon Slavin
said:

>>> words of time string of (current date)
>>>
>>> --> {"Jul", "23", "12", "01", "49", "PM"}
>>
>> Only the time is supposed to be returned in "time string" (which is the
>> case in 10.4.11). If you really get "Jul" and "23" in the output of the
>> command above in Leopard, submit a bug report.
>
> What part of the above is a bug ?
>
> 'time string' gives you the time as a piece of text
>
> 'words of x' gives you a list of the words of a piece of text

Simon,

I have to agree with Michelle here. If you are seeing date info (as
above) in the result from

words of time string of (current date)

it's a bug. Regardless of the settings of the International Pref Pane,
"time string" should only return time info, "date string" should only
return date info. There's no way the format settings should change the
content of what is returned, it's only supposed to change the display
format.

For example, this script

log words of time string of (current date)
log words of date string of (current date)

returns the following in SD4 with my U.S. format settings (MacOS X
10.5.4) and the results are as expected.

-- started
current date
--> date "Saturday, July 26, 2008 8:14:21 AM"
(*8, 14, 21, AM*)
current date
--> date "Saturday, July 26, 2008 8:14:21 AM"
(*Saturday, July, 26, 2008*)
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Simon Slavin1

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(Msg. 22) Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:35 pm
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On 26/07/2008, John Stewart wrote in message <2008072608462229718-
psamech@perigeenet>:

> words of time string of (current date)

Sorry, I somehow didn't see the word 'time' when I read that in the
original post. Everyone's right and I should read more carefully.

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(Msg. 23) Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:38 pm
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Patrick Stadelmann

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(Msg. 24) Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:34 am
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In article ,
Michelle Steiner wrote:

> I found the cause of the problem; it is not a bug. I had changed
> parameters in International Preferences so that the date appears in the
> menu bar along with the time; Applescript's "time string" evidently
> reads this format.

How did you do that ? In International->Format, I have separate sections
for "Dates" and "Times" and I don't see a way to enter a date field in
the second one.

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(Msg. 25) Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:34 am
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Patrick Stadelmann

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(Msg. 26) Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:44 pm
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In article ,
Gregory Weston wrote:

> I think you may be thinking of a means to explicitly set the format used
> by the menu bar display before 10.4. There's some sort of tickle in my
> brain to the effect that that clock started using the centralized
> user-configured format string as of Tiger.

It's the same modification, simply before Tiger you could not enter
format strings in the International preferences and you were restricted
to selecting the value for each position for a popup menus. Hence, it
was impossible to use date fields for the time string from the GUI.
But the menu bar clock in 10.3.9 does follow the settings from the
International preferences pane.

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