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(Msg. 16) Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 7:41 am
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 7:47 am
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In article <mcmurtri-7D2774.20570722022008.RemoveThis@news.dslextreme.com>,
Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtri.RemoveThis@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> All of the MT-Newswatchers use polling threading rather than blocking
> threading for tasks. That means the threads run non-stop and 99.9999%
> of that time is spent discovering that there's nothing to do yet. The
> CPU consumption is especially bad on Intel systems. A few concurrent
> downloads will get the fans racing or run a laptop battery dead.
I have an Intel Mac Pro. Top indicates that MT-NW is using between 2 and
10 percent of the cpu, while it's doing stuff. "Idle," it sits at about
3 percent. Is that considered excessive, or am I misreading the data
(wouldn't be the first time). Top itself uses more than that.
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 7:52 am
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In article <SalmonEgg-5222FC.22455622022008.TakeThisOut@news.la.sbcglobal.net>,
Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg.TakeThisOut@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> I have found the NW acutally posts the message before it freezes!
Mine doesn't -- it crashes and goes away and doesn't post the message.
This happens very rarely -- only twice I think since I started having
problems. The other issue, where MTNW crashes while it's quitting and
"cleaning up," happens about every third time I quit the app.
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 9:26 am
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Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg.DeleteThis@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> I hater taking a chance on a beta version--but it is probably worth a
> try.
Well, considering the last stable release isn't all that stable for you,
why would you not try it? Besides, you can go back to your current
version if this one is even more problematic for you.
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 4:14 pm
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In article <fpp4k5$her$2@news.mixmin.net>,
Warren Oates <warren.oates.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <mcmurtri-7D2774.20570722022008.RemoveThis@news.dslextreme.com>,
> Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtri.RemoveThis@dslextreme.com> wrote:
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> > All of the MT-Newswatchers use polling threading rather than blocking
> > threading for tasks. That means the threads run non-stop and 99.9999%
> > of that time is spent discovering that there's nothing to do yet. The
> > CPU consumption is especially bad on Intel systems. A few concurrent
> > downloads will get the fans racing or run a laptop battery dead.
>
> I have an Intel Mac Pro. Top indicates that MT-NW is using between 2 and
> 10 percent of the cpu, while it's doing stuff. "Idle," it sits at about
> 3 percent. Is that considered excessive, or am I misreading the data
> (wouldn't be the first time). Top itself uses more than that.
Interesting. I've used it on several different computers and it has
always maxed out the CPU while downloading. I wonder if there's an
adjustment to its sleep time?
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 10:10 pm
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On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 07:40:12 -0700, Lewis wrote:
> In article <fpp4al$her$1@news.mixmin.net>,
> Warren Oates <warren.oates.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> It always was for me too, until quite recently. The changes in my cages
>> seem to be 10.5.2 (on a Mac Pro) and connecting to an nntp server with
>> ssh. I won't downgrade the OS of course, and this server requires ssh to
>> post.
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> Same OS, Same hardware, same MTNW. Maybe it's the SSH that's the issue?
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> (My server requires login, but not ssh)
>
Has anyone mentioned PAN from the wonderful world of Unix/Linux
pan.rebelbase.com?
Very full featured, configurable, stable, high-performance...and as F/OSS
it's free.
Frank
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 10:10 pm
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In article <af2wj.2000$xg6.1184@trnddc07>, frank
<fpirrione.RemoveThis@verizon.net> wrote:
> Has anyone mentioned PAN from the wonderful world of Unix/Linux
Which OS did you download it for? Did it run right off the bat? Or did
you download the source and compile it? Mac users want to know. >> Stay informed about: Suggestion to replace MT-NewsWatcher? |
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 3:06 am
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On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:20:02 -0800, Phil Stripling wrote:
> In article <af2wj.2000$xg6.1184@trnddc07>, frank
> <fpirrione.DeleteThis@verizon.net> wrote:
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>> Has anyone mentioned PAN from the wonderful world of Unix/Linux
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> Which OS did you download it for? Did it run right off the bat? Or did
> you download the source and compile it? Mac users want to know.
Hi Phil,
With its pure heart of gold, that is to say Unix, there are so many
excellent apps that can be run in OS X - The GIMP, Ardour2, Audacity, LyX,
Scribus, Inkscape, OpenOffice.org/NeoOffice (native), AbiWord and countless
more.
Two download and install systems have large application repositories
and will take care of any dependencies while building the program package
right on your Mac: Fink and Darwin Ports. I use the latter, and this
page both shows you how little is involved in taking advantage of this as
well as pan2 itself:
http://pan2.darwinports.com/
Have fun!
Frank
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 10:13 am
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 8:11 pm
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(Msg. 26) Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 8:13 pm
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(Msg. 27) Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 9:57 pm
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In article <DK8wj.10727$Hd.5076@trnddc02>,
frank <fpirrione.TakeThisOut@verizon.net> wrote:
> Two download and install systems have large application repositories
> and will take care of any dependencies while building the program package
> right on your Mac: Fink and Darwin Ports. I use the latter, and this
> page both shows you how little is involved in taking advantage of this as
> well as pan2 itself:
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> http://pan2.darwinports.com/
Or you can just download the source from
<http://pan.rebelbase.com/download/releases/0.14.2/SOURCE/>, unpack the
archive, and compile it yourself with a the standard:
./configure
make
sudo make install
Use the Source™ ; )
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(Msg. 28) Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 11:47 pm
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On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 10:13:54 -0600, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote:
> In <DK8wj.10727$Hd.5076@trnddc02>, frank wrote:
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>> Two download and install systems have large application repositories
>> and will take care of any dependencies while building the program package
>> right on your Mac: Fink and Darwin Ports. I use the latter, and this
>> page both shows you how little is involved in taking advantage of this as
>> well as pan2 itself:
>>
>> http://pan2.darwinports.com/
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> I thought that Darwinports has been succeeded by Macports (which is what I
> use).
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> Cheers,
>
> -j
>
Jeff - I thought Macports was a commercial graphical interface to
free Darwin Ports. Frank
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(Msg. 29) Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 4:57 am
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In article
<jollyroger-BA91A9.21575424022008 DeleteThis @70-3-168-216.area5.spcsdns.net>,
Jolly Roger <jollyroger DeleteThis @pobox.com> wrote:
> In article <DK8wj.10727$Hd.5076@trnddc02>,
> frank <fpirrione DeleteThis @verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > Two download and install systems have large application repositories
> > and will take care of any dependencies while building the program package
> > right on your Mac: Fink and Darwin Ports. I use the latter, and this
> > page both shows you how little is involved in taking advantage of this as
> > well as pan2 itself:
> >
> > http://pan2.darwinports.com/
>
> Or you can just download the source from
> <http://pan.rebelbase.com/download/releases/0.14.2/SOURCE/>, unpack the
> archive, and compile it yourself with a the standard:
>
> ./configure
> make
> sudo make install
>
> Use the Source™ ; )
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(Msg. 30) Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:43 am
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In <fptccp$uk8$1@aioe.org>, AV3 wrote:
> Jeffrey Goldberg wrote:
>> Porticus is an Cocoa GUI front end for macports.
>
> The OP about Pan and others may want to choose between the two
> versions/approaches to downloading and installing, as I did.
Fair enough. Porticus is a good suggestion in that case. To make things
clear anything available through macports will be available through
Porticus.
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