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Earle Jones

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:54 pm
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Before I install Leopard I want to clone my current startup disk (Sys
10.4.11) on an external HD. Which is better -- SuperDuper or Carbon
Copy Cloner?

The reviews in "Version Tracker" steer me toward SuperDuper ($28
shareware fee).

What do you think?

Thanks!

earle
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scanner, photo printer, laser printer, etc.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:20 pm
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In article <earle.jones-465B24.16542217122007.RemoveThis@netnews.comcast.net>,
Earle Jones <earle.jones.RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote:

> Before I install Leopard I want to clone my current startup disk (Sys
> 10.4.11) on an external HD. Which is better -- SuperDuper or Carbon
> Copy Cloner?

If that's all you want to do, do it with CCC. Or just use Disk Utility.
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nospam

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:59 pm
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In article <earle.jones-465B24.16542217122007.TakeThisOut@netnews.comcast.net>,
Earle Jones <earle.jones.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote:

> Before I install Leopard I want to clone my current startup disk (Sys
> 10.4.11) on an external HD. Which is better -- SuperDuper or Carbon
> Copy Cloner?

superduper is the better program, however, it is not currently
compatible with leopard. if you clone it in tiger prior to upgrading,
it will be fine, and you will need to wait for the update before using
it after that.
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J.J. O'Shea

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:11 pm
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 19:54:22 -0500, Earle Jones wrote
(in article <earle.jones-465B24.16542217122007.DeleteThis@netnews.comcast.net>):

> Before I install Leopard I want to clone my current startup disk (Sys
> 10.4.11) on an external HD. Which is better -- SuperDuper or Carbon
> Copy Cloner?
>
> The reviews in "Version Tracker" steer me toward SuperDuper ($28
> shareware fee).

SuperDuper! requires the shareware fee only if you want to use certain
features. (I think those features are useful, and have paid the fee.)
However, SD! is not (currently) compatible with Leopard. There is, allegedly,
a fix in the works. CCC _is_ compatible with Leopard. If you need something
_right now_ and are running Leopard, go with CCC. If you're running Tiger or
earlier, SD! is easier to handle, though CCC is more thorough. If you're
running Leopard, CCC is the tool to use for cloning.

Note that ProSoft's Drive Genius allegedly has the ability to clone Leopard
volumes, and that Prosoft's Data Rescue and Data Backup also allegedly work
with Leopard. I have not personally verified any of this, and all three are
_commercial_ apps which cost substantially more than SD!. I know that Drive
Genius will clone Tiger volumes without problems, except that it can't clone
the boot volume.

I personally used SD! for most cloning operations pre-Leopard, and am
currently using CCC until SD! becomes Leopard-compatible.

>
> What do you think?
>
> Thanks!
>
> earle
> *
> Intel iMac 2GB RAM,250GB internal HD, 320GB + 160GB external HD --
> scanner, photo printer, laser printer, etc.



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Daniel Cohen

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:14 pm
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nospam <nospam.RemoveThis@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <earle.jones-465B24.16542217122007.RemoveThis@netnews.comcast.net>,
> Earle Jones <earle.jones.RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > Before I install Leopard I want to clone my current startup disk (Sys
> > 10.4.11) on an external HD. Which is better -- SuperDuper or Carbon
> > Copy Cloner?
>
> superduper is the better program, however, it is not currently
> compatible with leopard. if you clone it in tiger prior to upgrading,
> it will be fine, and you will need to wait for the update before using
> it after that.

And the update is due soon. See the SuperDuper blog for details.

Also, for a single backup, SuperDuper is free.

You have to pay to get the much faster Smart Update feature (where
changed files are updated, as distinct from the basic proccess of
erasing evrything and then copying).
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M-M

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:56 pm
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nospamatall

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 3:01 pm
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Earle Jones wrote:
> Before I install Leopard I want to clone my current startup disk (Sys
> 10.4.11) on an external HD. Which is better -- SuperDuper or Carbon
> Copy Cloner?
>
> The reviews in "Version Tracker" steer me toward SuperDuper ($28
> shareware fee).
>
> What do you think?
>
> Thanks!
>
> earle
> *
> Intel iMac 2GB RAM,250GB internal HD, 320GB + 160GB external HD --
> scanner, photo printer, laser printer, etc.

CCC works fine for me. It will do incremental backups and archive old
stuff if I want it to. Also you can tell it not to backup certain
directories if you like. It has a scheduling thing too I think, but I've
never used scheduling so can't comment on that.

Andy
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Francis Fitzpatrick

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 12:29 am
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On 2007-12-17 19:54:22 -0500, Earle Jones <earle.jones RemoveThis @comcast.net> said:

> Before I install Leopard I want to clone my current startup disk (Sys
> 10.4.11) on an external HD. Which is better -- SuperDuper or Carbon
> Copy Cloner?
>
> The reviews in "Version Tracker" steer me toward SuperDuper ($28
> shareware fee).
>
> What do you think?
>
> Thanks!
>
> earle
> *
> Intel iMac 2GB RAM,250GB internal HD, 320GB + 160GB external HD --
> scanner, photo printer, laser printer, etc.

SuperDuper is far easier to use and works well.
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sallyshears

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 12:29 am
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In article <2008022622510916807-francis@invalidcom>, Francis
Fitzpatrick <francis DeleteThis @invalid.com> wrote:

> On 2007-12-17 19:54:22 -0500, Earle Jones <earle.jones DeleteThis @comcast.net> said:
>
> > Before I install Leopard I want to clone my current startup disk (Sys
> > 10.4.11) on an external HD. Which is better -- SuperDuper or Carbon
> > Copy Cloner?
>
> SuperDuper is far easier to use and works well.

Carbon Copy Cloner is pretty easy to use and works well.

The author, Mike Bombich, was a pioneer in figuring out how to clone a
Mac OS X disk. I just used the current version 3.01 to clone a Leopard
disk that's fully bootable and restore-from-able.

-- Sally

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Tim Lance

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:50 am
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:01 am
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Tom Stiller

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:53 am
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In article <gkreme-9B8268.07013627022008.DeleteThis@news.giganews.com>,
Lewis <gkreme.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:

> In article <QP6dnSGLWYUT01janZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d.DeleteThis@giganews.com>,
> Tim Lance <see.sig.DeleteThis@bottom.com> wrote:
>
> > On both CCC's and SD!'s forums there's been much discussion on the finer
> > points of how well each deals with the monkey wrench Apple threw into
> > Leopard
> > with the final release - ACLs (Access Control Lists)
>
> ACLs are not new to Leopard, they were in Tiger as well.

And there was no proper backup/restore for them there either.

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rezwits

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 1:14 pm
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On 2008-02-26 19:51:08 -0800, Francis Fitzpatrick <francis RemoveThis @invalid.com> said:

> On 2007-12-17 19:54:22 -0500, Earle Jones <earle.jones RemoveThis @comcast.net> said:
>
>> Before I install Leopard I want to clone my current startup disk (Sys
>> 10.4.11) on an external HD. Which is better -- SuperDuper or Carbon
>> Copy Cloner?
>>
>> The reviews in "Version Tracker" steer me toward SuperDuper ($28
>> shareware fee).
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> earle
>> *
>> Intel iMac 2GB RAM,250GB internal HD, 320GB + 160GB external HD --
>> scanner, photo printer, laser printer, etc.
>
> SuperDuper is far easier to use and works well.

Scheduling works better in CCC, but CCC can't format a drive right if
you use case-sensitive... SuperDuper can, but the scheduling is week,
you basically have to be logged into the account and superduper has to
be launched, or something like that, I just do both to make sure it
goes thru. I would use ccc everytime...
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 1:42 pm
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Lewis <gkreme.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> ACLs are not new to Leopard, they were in Tiger as well.

But they were turned off by default, and the OS didn't make use of them.
That changed with Leopard.

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(Msg. 15) Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 2:30 pm
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