USB Problems! Connecting HP G-85 to G3 with 9.22

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,
David Sankey wrote:

> Other than the very first drivers being difficult I have never had any
> trouble with my G85s.
>
> So does sound like trouble with the USB interface on the G85.
>
> Nevertheless you could try the Deskjet 970 cse driver instead?
>
> Good luck,



I'd not trust the stock driver out of the box.

My HP 3550 on USB had a driver on CD that was known to be buggy. I
went to the HP web site, located the printer, and got the latest
driver there.

I noticed that after download I had lost a couple of user options but
th eprinter worked fine afterward.

Some fo the older HP drivers in the 600-900 series have an interaction
with the operating system at installation so you cannot copy a driver
installed on another similar computer. You need to do a clean install.

Also, in dealing with the older HPs, I found there is a trick, not
well documented with respect to installation.

First remove all vestiges of older driver associated with that
printer. Remove it to a holding folder if you think you need it.

Install the new driver. DO NOT associate it with the CHOOSER if the
driver also has an update of any kind.

Quit out before associating with the CHOOSER and run the updater
FIRST.

Then do a restart and reboot.

Now, after restart select the printer in the Chooser.

Now restart and reboot again and rebuild the desktop.

If all is will with life, you should now be able to print.

In my case my USB driver loads and remains idle on the system. The
module is located in the OS 9 start up folder.

Hope this helps.



DMK
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Richard wrote:

> I am having major headache with this combo.. USB finds NO device ..
> have tried 3 versions of HP installers and several cables (just in
> case..) and several different bilds of the various USB drivers ..

Richard-

I'm not familiar with the G-85, but have had USB problems with a Beige
G3 MiniTower and a Wallstreet PB G3. It seems that the later USB
drivers in the Extensions folder didn't work for some devices. I'm
using a PCI USB adapter in the Beige G3, and a PCMCIA USB adapter card
in the Wallstreet.

My solution was to substitute older versions by trial and error until it
worked. Get-Info for my list of "good" extensions includes:

USB Device Extension version 1.5.6 (9.2.2)
USB Mass Storage Extension version 2.0.4 (USB Adapter Card Support)
USB Mass Storage Support version 2.0.4 (USB Adapter Card Support)
USB Software Locator version 1.5.6 (9.2.2)
USB Support version 1.4.1 (USB Adapter Card Support)

There may only be one or two of these that make a difference. If your
G3 uses a USB adapter instead of having it built-in, then this may be
the solution to your problem as well.

Fred
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Fred McKenzie wrote:

> I'm not familiar with the G-85, but have had USB problems with a Beige
> G3 MiniTower and a Wallstreet PB G3. It seems that the later USB
> drivers in the Extensions folder didn't work for some devices. I'm
> using a PCI USB adapter in the Beige G3, and a PCMCIA USB adapter card
> in the Wallstreet.
>
> My solution was to substitute older versions by trial and error until it
> worked. Get-Info for my list of "good" extensions includes:
>
> USB Device Extension version 1.5.6 (9.2.2)
> USB Mass Storage Extension version 2.0.4 (USB Adapter Card Support)
> USB Mass Storage Support version 2.0.4 (USB Adapter Card Support)
> USB Software Locator version 1.5.6 (9.2.2)
> USB Support version 1.4.1 (USB Adapter Card Support)
>
> There may only be one or two of these that make a difference. If your
> G3 uses a USB adapter instead of having it built-in, then this may be
> the solution to your problem as well.



Another thought is conflicting USB printer drivers supplied by Apple.
You might want to try deactivating any of those and trying it with
just HP's installed.
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Kirkpatrick wrote:

> In article ,
> Fred McKenzie wrote:
>
The G3 Mini-Tower is what I'm using (several actually) .. I have been
doing the "extension shuffle" for 2 days now .. along with some system
file rebuilds .. and of course removing anything that might offend ..
right down to the bare bones .. digging thru my archives to find
"older" drivers is almost as hard as finding new ones..

I 'm sure the extension mix-match is where the problem is. I have
seen this printer working with another G3 so I know it Does work !!

It is a good thing I like a challenge ... reminds me of a red-head I
used to know .... (opps, wrong News group!)

Thanks to all for the assist and Happy Holidays!
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Salut Richard

In article ,
Richard wrote:

> In article , D.
> Kirkpatrick wrote:
>
> > In article ,
> > Fred McKenzie wrote:
> >
> The G3 Mini-Tower is what I'm using (several actually) .. I have been
> doing the "extension shuffle" for 2 days now .. along with some system
> file rebuilds .. and of course removing anything that might offend ..
> right down to the bare bones .. digging thru my archives to find
> "older" drivers is almost as hard as finding new ones..
>
> I 'm sure the extension mix-match is where the problem is. I have
> seen this printer working with another G3 so I know it Does work !!

I had this problem with several beige G3's (Desktop and MiniTower).
What helped in every case was to install 9.2.1.
Is there anything you need absolutely that only 9.2.2 offers?

Cheers
Andreas

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In article ,
Richard wrote:

> The G3 Mini-Tower is what I'm using (several actually) .. I have been
> doing the "extension shuffle" for 2 days now .. along with some system
> file rebuilds .. and of course removing anything that might offend ..
> right down to the bare bones .. digging thru my archives to find
> "older" drivers is almost as hard as finding new ones..
>
> I 'm sure the extension mix-match is where the problem is. I have
> seen this printer working with another G3 so I know it Does work !!

Richard-

When I first installed a USB PCI card in the Beige G3, there were no USB
drivers supplied with OS 8 (or 8.1?). I found a USB developer kit at
the Apple web site, which contained a folder of USB extensions in
addition to the other developer stuff.

It was when updating the OS that I had problems with newer USB drivers.
Reverting back to the developer kit drivers solved the problem then.

Fred
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In article , Fred McKenzie
wrote:

> In article ,
> Richard wrote:
>

Finally Got it working..!! Droping back to the USB 1.4.1 extension set
seemed to do the trick, plus turning OFF the sleep settings. I have
reinstalled ALL of the other 9.2.2 drivers and other SW and all seems
good! Even double checked with 3 different USB cards (generic brands)
with do problems. So far there are no other conflicts!

Now I can retire 3 older pieces of hardware (scanner, color
ScriptWriter, & FAX) The G85 seems like a nice unit.. not as fast or
quite as some newer HP's .. but I ran it thru it's paces last night and
ALL the functions work just fine.. and it seems a little more rugged
than all the newer units..

Thanks to all for the assist and Happy Holidays!
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