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(Msg. 16) Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 3:15 pm
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> Firefox
Note the Mac FF doesn't have the same look or feel as the Windows or
Linux FF. Not sure why. It's the same "theme", but it looks different.
For example, there's no little icon next to "bookmark bar" bookmarks.
This was extremely disappointing to me.
Also, I've noticed there seem to be a lot more bugs floating around on
the Mac version. I hope they fix it. There's only 2 or 3 little things
that I like FF for better than Safari, but they bug the hell out of me
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 3:15 pm
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In article <ctokh5$2a9v$1@netnews.upenn.edu>,
o-chan <poda RemoveThis @REMOVEmac.com> wrote:
> > Firefox
>
> Note the Mac FF doesn't have the same look or feel as the Windows or
> Linux FF. Not sure why. It's the same "theme", but it looks different.
> For example, there's no little icon next to "bookmark bar" bookmarks.
> This was extremely disappointing to me.
>
> Also, I've noticed there seem to be a lot more bugs floating around on
> the Mac version. I hope they fix it.
Yes. Though FF is now my primary Windows browser, I went back to Mozilla
on my Mac at least for now. I could probably have gotten used to a few
of the interface changes, but one or two of the bugs were just
unacceptable to me for everyday use. (Particularly bug(s) that cause it
to hang hard). Maybe I'll try again later.
Yes, the bugs were clearly FF-specific; I don't get anything like that
in Mozilla - or if so, they are rare enough not to be such an issue.
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 3:40 pm
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Soni tempori elseu romani yeof helsforo nisson ol sefini ill des Tue, 01 Feb
2005 11:34:08 -0800, sefini jorgo geanyet des mani yeof do comp.sys.mac.misc,
yawatina tan reek esk Richard E Maine <nospam.DeleteThis@see.signature> fornis do
marikano es bono tan el:
>Yes, the bugs were clearly FF-specific; I don't get anything like that
>in Mozilla - or if so, they are rare enough not to be such an issue.
Will the linux version of FF work on OS X?
deKay
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 3:40 pm
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In article <5aovv01mn3p13o0eop9qun1iqkfn15po48.RemoveThis@4ax.com>,
deKay <andyk.RemoveThis@lofi-gaming.org.uk> wrote:
> Will the linux version of FF work on OS X?
No way. If you are talking binaries (which you are), the Linux version
of *NOTHING* has any chance at all of working on OS-X. Different CPUs
involved. The operating system doesn't have anything to do with it.
Source code for a linux version is one thing, but just forget binaries.
Ok. Ok. To be pedantic, I'll note the 2 exceptions.
1. There is a Linux for the PPC processor. If you happened to have a
version of something built for that (which you don't), then there would
be at least a vague hope. The answer would still almost surely be "no",
but you are at least then talking about operating system issues instead
of hardware issues, and it would be possible in principle (but I'd bet
on "no").
2. If you want to run Virtual PC on the Mac, you can use it to emulate
an I32 CPU then run Linux on the simulated machine. I'm quite sure you
could then run FF in that Linux. It is somewhat of a stretch to call
that "working on OS X". But if you want to stretch the definition that
far, I'm sure it would work.
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 5:40 pm
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Soni tempori elseu romani yeof helsforo nisson ol sefini ill des Tue, 01 Feb
2005 12:46:55 -0800, sefini jorgo geanyet des mani yeof do comp.sys.mac.misc,
yawatina tan reek esk Richard E Maine <nospam.TakeThisOut@see.signature> fornis do
marikano es bono tan el:
>> Will the linux version of FF work on OS X?
>
>No way. If you are talking binaries (which you are), the Linux version
>of *NOTHING* has any chance at all of working on OS-X. Different CPUs
>involved. The operating system doesn't have anything to do with it.
>Source code for a linux version is one thing, but just forget binaries.
Well, I kind of expected all that. I was unsure as to whether I could use the
source and compile, but anyway.
deKay
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 10:40 pm
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In article <miouv0tgr7l6ku4a2ml75tm3klgg4p22dv.DeleteThis@4ax.com>, deKay
<andyk.DeleteThis@lofi-gaming.org.uk> wrote:
> Also, is there much of a difference between the 1.25 and 1.42GHz machines in
> terms of speed? The 40Gb drive doesn't really matter too much.
Macintouch has a nice Mac mini review, which includes speed comparisons
with benchmarks among much other info:
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.macintouch.com/macmini/review.html" target="_blank">http://www.macintouch.com/macmini/review.html</a>
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:40 am
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deKay <andyk.DeleteThis@lofi-gaming.org.uk> wrote:
> I currently have a linux box, which does assorted server tasks, and is used
> "at the desktop" for email, web and basic office tasks. But it's noisy. Like
> a Harrier jump jet. I was looking at buying super-quiet parts for it, but
> then, I thought - a Mac Mini will probably do the same job.
Though most (if not all) of your software demands will work fine under
Mac OS X, you could also install Yellow Dog Linux or another Mac
distrubution on the Man Mini.
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 4:44 pm
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deKay <andyk.RemoveThis@lofi-gaming.org.uk> wrote:
> >Just had a quick look at leafnode, if you recompile from the sources
> >could be ok. I have not checkd on binaries dependencies.
>
> Sounds good. I'm not adverse to compiling from source. I'm assuming OS X is
> similar enough to Linux for me to transfer my "skills" over?
> configure/make/make install, basically.
Check out fink.sourceforge.net
I checked, and there is a ported leafnode, ready for you to download.
V.
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 6:53 pm
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deKay wrote:
> First post, pointers to FAQ (if there is one) appreciated, pointers to another
> group if this isn't the right one :)
Hey. I recognise that name from uk.games.video.misc, which I browse
occasionally ;-)
Head over to uk.comp.sys.mac - it's got a similar sense of humour too.
Sir Chewberry Gubbins also posts there as do a few other UK gamers :-) I
think there are also people there who use leafnode (Woody maybe?)
Most of your other software requirement are avaiable via the Fink
project (a port of debian's apt-get system) at <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://fink.sf.net," target="_blank">http://fink.sf.net,</a> and
from Darwinports, my preferred ports system -
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://darwinports.opendarwin.org" target="_blank">http://darwinports.opendarwin.org</a>
For example, apache2 would be built and installed using darwinports like so:
% port install apache2
I use it to run a subversion server
% port install subversion +mod_dav_svn
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 9:15 pm
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deKay <andyk.RemoveThis@lofi-gaming.org.uk> wrote:
: Soni tempori elseu romani yeof helsforo nisson ol sefini ill des Tue, 01 Feb
: 2005 11:15:31 +0100, sefini jorgo geanyet des mani yeof do comp.sys.mac.misc,
: yawatina tan reek esk Daniel Bleriot <daniel.RemoveThis@bleriot.net> fornis do marikano
: es bono tan el:
: >Just had a quick look at leafnode, if you recompile from the sources
: >could be ok. I have not checkd on binaries dependencies.
: Sounds good. I'm not adverse to compiling from source. I'm assuming OS X is
: similar enough to Linux for me to transfer my "skills" over?
: configure/make/make install, basically.
I personally gave up on windows at version 3.11 when I switched to linux.
You'll find that freeBSD is close enough to linux that you'll be able to find
your way around rather quickly.
: My last Mac ran System 7, so I'm a bit behind on recent developments :)
I never had a mac until I got my mini and I've really come to like it.
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(Msg. 26) Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 9:18 pm
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deKay <andyk RemoveThis @lofi-gaming.org.uk> wrote:
: Soni tempori elseu romani yeof helsforo nisson ol sefini ill des Tue, 01 Feb
: 2005 08:16:54 -0800, sefini jorgo geanyet des mani yeof do comp.sys.mac.misc,
: yawatina tan reek esk Richard E Maine <nospam RemoveThis @see.signature> fornis do
: marikano es bono tan el:
: >Libraries tend to be in different places - that's trivial. Probably the
: >difference that I notice most often is in how shared libraries work. But
: >you probably don't even much run into those issues when using 3rd party
: >software that has already been ported; its configure/make stuff will
: >already handle it. If you need to port your own software, you'll need to
: >learn a bit more, but that's no great surprise.
: So long as it isn't the shock to the system Linux was when I went from Windows
: 98 and AmigaOS to SuSE 7 :)
Not even close. The biggest differences are the result of the apple
filesystem layout. As you would imagine OS-X is a bsd variant of unix while
linux straddles the fence between bsd and sys V.
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