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Since: Mar 07, 2004 Posts: 3828
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(Msg. 16) Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:42 pm
Post subject: Re: I really don't think it's "just me..." [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: microsoft>public>mac>office>excel (more info?)
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In article <C3294C35.21C79%gwkuddles@comcast.net>,
Guy Kudlemyer <gwkuddles.RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote:
> > Anyway, the problem was that if you copy a formula from a cell, you
> > can paste it UNTIL you do something else (press a key, do something in
> > a menu other than paste, sneeze), then in subsequent pastes, the
> > "value" of the formula is pasted instead of the formula itself. So,
> > the clipboard persists, but not as you'd expect.
> >
> > Does this describe the behavior that Guy is being subjected to?
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> It doesn't seem to matter what is in the cell (text, formula, value,
> whatever.) If you copy it, you can paste it until you get a nosebleed, BUT
> if you do anything other than paste, the clipboard is wiped clean. If you
> copy, paste, type something in another cell, then try to paste again, you
> must re-copy again before you can paste again--All because you typed
> something between pastings.
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> I'm attempting to do this at home on my Mac, but two other computers that I
> use at work, both Windozers, work exactly the same way.
I expect that behavior in WinXL, since it uses a special Office
clipboard that clears after copy operations are through.
But MacXL has no special clipboard, so the only thing that can clear the
clipboard is to load something else, presumably blank, but at a minimum,
something that isn't applicable to being pasted into a cell.
I don't remember whether you've said if you're running any event macros
or haxies... >> Stay informed about: Is it just me...? |
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Since: Mar 07, 2004 Posts: 3828
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 7:54 am
Post subject: Re: I really don't think it's "just me..." [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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In article <C32A4E95.9FDF9%bob@nospam.com>,
Bob Greenblatt <bob.RemoveThis@nospam.com> wrote:
> Remember people, that Excel has worked with the clipboard a ³little
> differently² than most other apps since it was MultiPlan in day 1.
That's true, and it may be the genesis of the OP's problems.
However, the "differently" is mostly related to what information is put
on the clipboard, and what taken back out - almost all apps place
multiple entries (text, formatted text, tagged text, hyperlinks, etc) in
the clipboard, and what gets pasted depends on what information the
receiving app thinks it can use. And XL is certainly unique in what it
decides to paste.
But I still don't think that I've ever seen XL *clear* the clipboard on
its own. >> Stay informed about: Is it just me...? |
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Since: Mar 07, 2004 Posts: 3828
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:44 am
Post subject: Re: I really don't think it's "just me..." [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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In article <uzL$APpBIHA.1408@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,
"CyberTaz" <typegeneraltaz1ATcomcastdotnet> wrote:
> If your objective is to clear the clipboard on the Mac just press the
> esc key.
?????
Does this actually work for you in any application?
The only thing it does for me in XL is reset whether XL pastes the
clipboard formula or the clipboard text. >> Stay informed about: Is it just me...? |
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Since: Apr 06, 2006 Posts: 693
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:40 am
Post subject: Re: I really don't think it's "just me..." [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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You're correct in your observation - bottom line is the clipboards work
differently on Mac & PC just as you described. If your objective is to clear
the clipboard on the Mac just press the esc key.
--
HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
"Guy Kudlemyer" <gwkuddles.RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:C3294C35.21C79%gwkuddles@comcast.net...
>> Anyway, the problem was that if you copy a formula from a cell, you
>> can paste it UNTIL you do something else (press a key, do something in
>> a menu other than paste, sneeze), then in subsequent pastes, the
>> "value" of the formula is pasted instead of the formula itself. So,
>> the clipboard persists, but not as you'd expect.
>>
>> Does this describe the behavior that Guy is being subjected to?
>
> It doesn't seem to matter what is in the cell (text, formula, value,
> whatever.) If you copy it, you can paste it until you get a nosebleed, BUT
> if you do anything other than paste, the clipboard is wiped clean. If you
> copy, paste, type something in another cell, then try to paste again, you
> must re-copy again before you can paste again--All because you typed
> something between pastings.
>
> I'm attempting to do this at home on my Mac, but two other computers that
> I
> use at work, both Windozers, work exactly the same way.
> >> Stay informed about: Is it just me...? |
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Since: Apr 06, 2006 Posts: 693
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 12:37 pm
Post subject: Re: I really don't think it's "just me..." [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Well, quite frankly I was going from memory and if I hadn't been "pretty
sure" I wouldn't have written it in... but you know how we old geezers get
muddled up sometimes:-} Unfortunately I won't be back in paradise until
later this evening so I can't test it, so I'll certainly defer to your
findings:)
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Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
"JE McGimpsey" <jemcgimpsey.DeleteThis@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:jemcgimpsey-D0B496.08443804102007@msnews.microsoft.com...
> In article <uzL$APpBIHA.1408@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,
> "CyberTaz" <typegeneraltaz1ATcomcastdotnet> wrote:
>
>> If your objective is to clear the clipboard on the Mac just press the
>> esc key.
>
> ?????
>
> Does this actually work for you in any application?
>
> The only thing it does for me in XL is reset whether XL pastes the
> clipboard formula or the clipboard text. >> Stay informed about: Is it just me...? |
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Since: Mar 07, 2004 Posts: 3828
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 12:37 pm
Post subject: Re: I really don't think it's "just me..." [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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In article <#MLKp7pBIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,
"CyberTaz" <typegeneraltaz1ATcomcastdotnet> wrote:
> Well, quite frankly I was going from memory and if I hadn't been "pretty
> sure" I wouldn't have written it in... but you know how we old geezers get
> muddled up sometimes:-} Unfortunately I won't be back in paradise until
> later this evening so I can't test it, so I'll certainly defer to your
> findings:)
Actually, I was being serious. The OP has been reporting something very
different from my 20+ years of experience with Macs and XL.
But believe it or not, I customize both Office and my System to a
significant degree, so perhaps I've modified things enough to have
forgotten what a stock installation does.
I don't *think* that's what's happening, but I'm always willing to be
proved wrong. >> Stay informed about: Is it just me...? |
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Since: Jul 20, 2005 Posts: 1758
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 6:10 pm
Post subject: Re: I really don't think it's "just me..." [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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OK - Here's what I'm finding [G5, 10.4.10, 11.3.7]:
Select & copy a cell containing *text*;
- Can paste repeatedly but
- Typing elsewhere causes marquee to disappear but can keep pasting
Select & copy a cell containing *a formula*;
- Can paste formula repeatedly but
- Typing causes paste to insert formula *result* & marquee disappears
Esc *does* cause the marquee to disappear but *doesn't* clear the clipboard.
I was in error previously simply because I have been deceived all these
years & just never noticed the difference - I just assumed that the
clipboard got cleared because the marquee vanished just like in PC XL:>}
Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
On 10/4/07 12:19 PM, in article
jemcgimpsey-F19D8C.10191104102007.DeleteThis@msnews.microsoft.com, "JE McGimpsey"
<jemcgimpsey.DeleteThis@mvps.org> wrote:
In article <#MLKp7pBIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,
"CyberTaz" <typegeneraltaz1ATcomcastdotnet> wrote:
> Well, quite frankly I was going from memory and if I hadn't been "pretty
> sure" I wouldn't have written it in... but you know how we old geezers get
> muddled up sometimes:-} Unfortunately I won't be back in paradise until
> later this evening so I can't test it, so I'll certainly defer to your
> findings:)
Actually, I was being serious. The OP has been reporting something very
different from my 20+ years of experience with Macs and XL.
But believe it or not, I customize both Office and my System to a
significant degree, so perhaps I've modified things enough to have
forgotten what a stock installation does.
I don't *think* that's what's happening, but I'm always willing to be
proved wrong. >> Stay informed about: Is it just me...? |
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