eject sequence (mpeg)

In article <dano45-EB4069.08130316122003.RemoveThis@lumberjack.rand.org>,
dano <dano45.RemoveThis@spamcop.net> wrote:

 > Looks like a USAF Thunderbird uniform. Wing shape in background is very
 > swept, could be an F-16.
 > <http://www.razorsedgesoft.com/eject.mpg>

If you look at the logo on the pilots uniform, it makes it certain that
it is.

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In article <alangbaker-4F5EDE.11382816122003.TakeThisOut@news.telus.net>,
Alan Baker <alangbaker.TakeThisOut@telus.net> wrote:

 > In article <dano45-EB4069.08130316122003.TakeThisOut@lumberjack.rand.org>,
 > dano <dano45.TakeThisOut@spamcop.net> wrote:
 >
  > > Looks like a USAF Thunderbird uniform. Wing shape in background is very
  > > swept, could be an F-16.
  > > <http://www.razorsedgesoft.com/eject.mpg>
 >
 > If you look at the logo on the pilots uniform, it makes it certain that
 > it is.

Uh, yeah. That's sort of what I was implying by "looks like a USAF
Thunderbird uniform"...

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dano wrote:
 > Looks like a USAF Thunderbird uniform. Wing shape in background is very
 > swept, could be an F-16.
 > <http://www.razorsedgesoft.com/eject.mpg>
 >

Yes - it's an F-16B or D. Interesting to click through it frame by
frame - doesn't look like te back seater was expecting the
ejection...you can see his right hand flail a bit as the canopy comes
off, and then both hands are on the center handle thought only one is
through the loop and holding it. You can also make out the shadow of
the seat leaving the jet in darkness before the film goes to static.

Hope they both made it out - the static starts before is looks like the
front seat left...

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In article <PqJDb.572683$Fm2.535541@attbi_s04>,
Rufus <srollin2.DeleteThis@mchsi.com> wrote:
* dano wrote:
* > Looks like a USAF Thunderbird uniform. Wing shape in background is very
* > swept, could be an F-16.
* > <http://www.razorsedgesoft.com/eject.mpg>
* >
*
* Yes - it's an F-16B or D. Interesting to click through it frame by
* frame - doesn't look like te back seater was expecting the
* ejection...you can see his right hand flail a bit as the canopy comes
* off, and then both hands are on the center handle thought only one is
* through the loop and holding it. You can also make out the shadow of
* the seat leaving the jet in darkness before the film goes to static.
*
* Hope they both made it out - the static starts before is looks like the
* front seat left...

You sure? I think that it's footage from a single-seat crash this past
September. Here's some more footage:
http://www.king5.com/cgi-bin/bi/video/G2redirect.pl?title=5101714#

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Paul Frankenstein wrote:
 > In article <PqJDb.572683$Fm2.535541@attbi_s04>,
 > Rufus <srollin2.TakeThisOut@mchsi.com> wrote:
 > * dano wrote:
 > * > Looks like a USAF Thunderbird uniform. Wing shape in background is very
 > * > swept, could be an F-16.
 > * > <http://www.razorsedgesoft.com/eject.mpg>
 > * >
 > *
 > * Yes - it's an F-16B or D. Interesting to click through it frame by
 > * frame - doesn't look like te back seater was expecting the
 > * ejection...you can see his right hand flail a bit as the canopy comes
 > * off, and then both hands are on the center handle thought only one is
 > * through the loop and holding it. You can also make out the shadow of
 > * the seat leaving the jet in darkness before the film goes to static.
 > *
 > * Hope they both made it out - the static starts before is looks like the
 > * front seat left...
 >
 > You sure? I think that it's footage from a single-seat crash this past
 > September. Here's some more footage:
 > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.king5.com/cgi-bin/bi/video/G2redirect.pl?title=5101714#" target="_blank">http://www.king5.com/cgi-bin/bi/video/G2redirect.pl?title=5101714#</a>
 >
 > p


I think you're right, now that I look at the original link again - what
I thought was the back of the front seat looks more like the forward
cockpit glare shield now. Funny place to have had a camera in a single
seat jet...

Still amazing that his hand was on the stick when the canopy blew.

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Rufus wrote:
 >
 > dano wrote:
  > > Looks like a USAF Thunderbird uniform. Wing shape in background is very
  > > swept, could be an F-16.
  > > <http://www.razorsedgesoft.com/eject.mpg>
  > >
 >
 > Yes - it's an F-16B or D. Interesting to click through it frame by
 > frame - doesn't look like te back seater was expecting the
 > ejection...you can see his right hand flail a bit as the canopy comes
 > off, and then both hands are on the center handle thought only one is
 > through the loop and holding it.

If that's all the warning he got (it does look like it), he has
inhumanly fast reflexes ..

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Alexandre Grand-Clement wrote:

 > Rufus wrote:
 >
  >>dano wrote:
  >>
   >>>Looks like a USAF Thunderbird uniform. Wing shape in background is very
   >>>swept, could be an F-16.
   >>><http://www.razorsedgesoft.com/eject.mpg>
   >>>
  >>Yes - it's an F-16B or D. Interesting to click through it frame by
  >>frame - doesn't look like te back seater was expecting the
  >>ejection...you can see his right hand flail a bit as the canopy comes
  >>off, and then both hands are on the center handle thought only one is
  >>through the loop and holding it.
 >
 >
 > If that's all the warning he got (it does look like it), he has
 > inhumanly fast reflexes ..
 >
 > A

Went back and took a second look - I think Paul is right and it's a
single seater. The shape of te glare shield threw me.

But the guy was still flying the jet as he pulled the handle - if you
frame by frame the video, you can see the canopy leave before his hand
comes off the stick...risky, but way to stick with it.

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srollin2 RemoveThis @mchsi.com (Rufus) wrote in <xsODb.372725$Dw6.1214860@attbi_s02>:


 >Went back and took a second look - I think Paul is right and it's a
 >single seater. The shape of te glare shield threw me.
 >
 >But the guy was still flying the jet as he pulled the handle - if you
 >frame by frame the video, you can see the canopy leave before his hand
 >comes off the stick...risky, but way to stick with it.

I counted about 20 frames between the seat leaving the plane and the video
ending in static. So he punched out about a second before the crash.

I found some photos taken from the ground here:
<http://www.f-16.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=842>

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Rufus wrote:
 >
 > cockpit glare shield now. Funny place to have had a camera in a single
 > seat jet...

Noo . . . about right for a display.

 >

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Harro de Jong <hdejong.RemoveThis@zonnet.nl.invalid> wrote:

 > I found some photos taken from the ground here:
 > <http://www.f-16.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=842>

And reading the discussion there reminds me that
web boards are a waste of electrons:

 > u know the X and Y axis??...the X-axis is the thrust drag ratio...while
 > the Y-axis is the lift weight ratio...so that explains the nose being
 > raise in the picture...he was clearly struggling to keep the plane in
 > level flight so that he could eject safely...but the plane was still
 > sinking...its something like stalling...when u raise the nose till u
 > have got no lift then the plane starts to sink...so thats
 > y....understand??...well..if u don't juZ ask me i can explain more to u
 > on the principles of flight... :)

and

 > If you were there, like I was, you would understand what had happened.
 > But, obviously, you are an idiot, and are making speculative remarks at
 > what you do not understand. You have made the whole world a dummer
 > place.

Wonderful.

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PeterD wrote:
 > Harro de Jong <hdejong.DeleteThis@zonnet.nl.invalid> wrote:
 >
 >
  >>I found some photos taken from the ground here:
  >><http://www.f-16.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=842>
 >
 >
 > And reading the discussion there reminds me that
 > web boards are a waste of electrons:
 >
 >
  >>u know the X and Y axis??...the X-axis is the thrust drag ratio...while
  >>the Y-axis is the lift weight ratio...so that explains the nose being
  >>raise in the picture...he was clearly struggling to keep the plane in
  >>level flight so that he could eject safely...but the plane was still
  >>sinking...its something like stalling...when u raise the nose till u
  >>have got no lift then the plane starts to sink...so thats
  >>y....understand??...well..if u don't juZ ask me i can explain more to u
  >>on the principles of flight... :)
 >
 >
 > and
 >
 >
  >>If you were there, like I was, you would understand what had happened.
  >>But, obviously, you are an idiot, and are making speculative remarks at
  >>what you do not understand. You have made the whole world a dummer
  >>place.
 >
 >
 > Wonderful.
 >

Actually where I work, x is out the nose, y is out the left or right
wing, and z is in the vertical.

I say "left or right wing" because it depends on whom you're talking to
- for aero or manufacturing types, z is up; for guidance and control
types, z point at the center of the earth, or "down". But in all cases
each group maintains a right-handed coordinate system.

Something similar happened to a friend of mine (in an F/A-18) during a
practice for an airshow - only he was killed. He stayed with the
airplane appearantly trying to keep it from hitting an apartment
complex, which turned out to have been condemned and empty - but he
didn't know that.

The particular manuever attempted in both cases can go wrong if the
pilot misjudges his altitude on initiating the reversal - leaving not
insuffcient altitude for recovery on the back side. The jet will get
it's nose above the horizon, but not arrest it's sink rate in time to
avoid hitting the ground. The aircraft is generating lift (this was NOT
a departure or stall) just not enough lift or G to avoid the ground by
actually turning the velocity vector in time, even though the nose is
around the corner.

This is a more common mishap in high performance jets than you would think.

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Richard P. Grant wrote:

 > Rufus wrote:
 >
  >>cockpit glare shield now. Funny place to have had a camera in a single
  >>seat jet...
 >
 >
 > Noo . . . about right for a display.
 >
 >
 >

Not from the angle - the perspective looks like it's a finger camera
attaceched to the cockpit combing at the right hand side of the glare
shield, not looking out from underneath it. The normal displays would
still be in place.

I know the Blue Angels mount an aft looking camera in the back of their
B jet, just surprised me to see one looking aft in a single seater...but
I guess it would make for some great shots.

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Jetisoned canopy looks from F-16.

What happened, was the plane getting to close to the ground w/ gear up?

I don't think this is a 2 seater. The dark section on the right are the
contours of the instrument panel antiglare shield.

dano <dano45 DeleteThis @spamcop.net> wrote:

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