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d49ot

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2003 1:36 pm
Post subject: what files are needed for bootable OSX CD?
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I would like to make a bootable system CD for OSX 10.2.6 using
BootCD. The System folder alone is 590 MB, which is about all that could
be put on a single CD. Is this enough to make it bootable? What about
other essential files like the Users and Library folders?

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Paolo G. Cordone2

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2003 10:34 pm
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On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 15:36:29 +0000, d49ot wrote
(in message <bo0jtu02u7t.RemoveThis@enews3.newsguy.com>):

 > I would like to make a bootable system CD for OSX 10.2.6 using
 > BootCD. The System folder alone is 590 MB, which is about all that could
 > be put on a single CD. Is this enough to make it bootable? What about
 > other essential files like the Users and Library folders?

Forget about doing it this way. Your Mac is a UNIX box now, there are lots of
invisible root-level files that need to be in the proper place.

The only way to make a bootable copy of your system is by using some
utilities (Carbon Copy Cloner, Synchronize X, etc.)

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2003 11:46 pm
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In article <0001HW.BBC9BB3C001EEFF2F0080600.TakeThisOut@News.Individual.NET>,
Paolo G. Cordone <pghc.TakeThisOut@eircom.net> wrote:

 > On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 15:36:29 +0000, d49ot wrote
 > (in message <bo0jtu02u7t.TakeThisOut@enews3.newsguy.com>):
 >
  > > I would like to make a bootable system CD for OSX 10.2.6 using
  > > BootCD. The System folder alone is 590 MB, which is about all that could
  > > be put on a single CD. Is this enough to make it bootable? What about
  > > other essential files like the Users and Library folders?
 >
 > Forget about doing it this way. Your Mac is a UNIX box now, there are lots of
 > invisible root-level files that need to be in the proper place.
 >
 > The only way to make a bootable copy of your system is by using some
 > utilities (Carbon Copy Cloner, Synchronize X, etc.)

The information for CCC explicitly says that it won't make a
bootable backup to a CD. Other posters here have previously said that
the way to do this is to make a bootable disk image using BootCD and
burning that to a CD.
Since I can only get the System folder on a single CD, I'd like to
know if that is sufficient to make a bootable backup. If not, how does
one get all the necessary files on a single CD?

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Tom Stiller

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 10:11 am
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In article <bo1nl301q22 DeleteThis @enews3.newsguy.com>,
d49ot <d49ot DeleteThis @invalid.invalid> wrote:

 > In article <0001HW.BBC9BB3C001EEFF2F0080600 DeleteThis @News.Individual.NET>,
 > Paolo G. Cordone <pghc DeleteThis @eircom.net> wrote:
 >
  > > On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 15:36:29 +0000, d49ot wrote
  > > (in message <bo0jtu02u7t DeleteThis @enews3.newsguy.com>):
  > >
   > > > I would like to make a bootable system CD for OSX 10.2.6 using
   > > > BootCD. The System folder alone is 590 MB, which is about all that could
   > > > be put on a single CD. Is this enough to make it bootable? What about
   > > > other essential files like the Users and Library folders?
  > >
  > > Forget about doing it this way. Your Mac is a UNIX box now, there are lots
  > > of
  > > invisible root-level files that need to be in the proper place.
  > >
  > > The only way to make a bootable copy of your system is by using some
  > > utilities (Carbon Copy Cloner, Synchronize X, etc.)
 >
 > The information for CCC explicitly says that it won't make a
 > bootable backup to a CD. Other posters here have previously said that
 > the way to do this is to make a bootable disk image using BootCD and
 > burning that to a CD.
 > Since I can only get the System folder on a single CD, I'd like to
 > know if that is sufficient to make a bootable backup. If not, how does
 > one get all the necessary files on a single CD?


Copying the System folder is not enough to make a bootable CD. The
easiest way yo make a bootable CD is to download BootCD from
VersionTracker.

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Mike Rosenberg

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 1:00 pm
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Tom Stiller <tomstiller RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote:

 > Copying the System folder is not enough to make a bootable CD. The
 > easiest way yo make a bootable CD is to download BootCD from
 > VersionTracker.

The OP said he's using BootCD. And that makes me wonder why he needs to
inquire in the first place.

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 1:08 pm
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In article <tomstiller-F17CA1.07111502112003.TakeThisOut@comcast.ash.giganews.com>,
Tom Stiller <tomstiller.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote:

 >
 > Copying the System folder is not enough to make a bootable CD. The
 > easiest way yo make a bootable CD is to download BootCD from
 > VersionTracker.

I have downloaded BootCD and want to use it. As I understand it,
BootCD allows you to make a bootable disk image which you can then burn
to a CD. But you have to put something on the disk image and that's what
I'm not sure about.
A disk image that would fit on a CD can only be 650 MB in size and my
System Folder is 590 MB in size. So I can't put much else into the disk
image unless BootCD does some kind of compression thing.
I read the BootCD readme file and it's unclear (to me) on this
point. It says you can add *other* files to the disk image, such as a
disk repair utility, but it doesn't say anything about what system files
you have to include. In fact, I thought it kind of implies that the
necessary system files are put on automatically -- but I could be
reading that wrong.
If someone who has actually done this could describe the steps
between when you create the disk image and when you burn it, I would
very much appreciate it.

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 1:45 pm
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d49ot <d49ot.RemoveThis@invalid.invalid> wrote:

 > I read the BootCD readme file and it's unclear (to me) on this
 > point. It says you can add *other* files to the disk image, such as a
 > disk repair utility, but it doesn't say anything about what system files
 > you have to include. In fact, I thought it kind of implies that the
 > necessary system files are put on automatically -- but I could be
 > reading that wrong.

You're reading correctly. It creates an image with all of the necessary
files, and you simply have to add the applications you want.

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 6:28 pm
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 >
 > I have downloaded BootCD and want to use it. As I understand it,
 > BootCD allows you to make a bootable disk image which you can then burn
 > to a CD. But you have to put something on the disk image and that's what
 > I'm not sure about.

So, try it and see. You can make the disk image without burning it,
and see how big it is. BootCD doesn't include your whole system folder.
Only what is needed. When I did this in 10.2.8, there was PLENTY of
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 7:01 pm
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On Sun, 2 Nov 2003 1:46:12 +0000, d49ot wrote
(in message <bo1nl301q22.DeleteThis@enews3.newsguy.com>):

 > The information for CCC explicitly says that it won't make a
 > bootable backup to a CD. Other posters here have previously said that
 > the way to do this is to make a bootable disk image using BootCD and
 > burning that to a CD.

Sorry, you are right. I overlooked the CD bit. However, the issue is still
the same. Finder-copying the System folder does not work anymore.

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