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Since: Feb 02, 2005 Posts: 1439
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(Msg. 31) Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:39 pm
Post subject: Re: So does Entourage 2008 sync Exchange tasks and categories? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: microsoft>public>mac>office>entourage (more info?)
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<Barry_Johnson RemoveThis @officeformac.com> wrote:
> we have no public forum to see if others (or the Microsoft Mac
> development team) agree.
Well the site you used to post this message is simple (yet another) Web
interface to access the microsoft.public.mac.office.entourage newsgroup
which has been around for quite some time now (I suspect shortly after
the first version of Entourage came out).
Corentin
PS: This group is accessible from most newsgroup servers, including of
course the open msnews.microsoft.com
<nntp://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.mac.office.entourage>
You can get on the group from any newsgroup client - including Entourage
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Since: Jan 23, 2008 Posts: 1
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(Msg. 32) Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:54 pm
Post subject: Re: What it all comes down to guys... [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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I too am disgusted by the fact that Exchange Tasks and Category
syncing was left out of Entourage 2008, but what disgusts me even more
is this piece of stupidity: why aren't the user fields (User Field 1
through 4) in Outlook Contacts not mapped to the user fields in
Entourage? There are dozens of user/custom fields in Entourage, so
hello Microsoft geniuses, did no one think to map four of them to
their Oulook counterparts? They aren't even available through Outlook
Web Access using ANY browser. >> Stay informed about: So does Entourage 2008 sync Exchange tasks and categories? |
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Since: Jan 24, 2008 Posts: 1
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(Msg. 33) Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:19 am
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Since: Jan 25, 2008 Posts: 1
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(Msg. 34) Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:58 pm
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Since: Jan 26, 2008 Posts: 1
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(Msg. 35) Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:20 am
Post subject: Re: So does Entourage 2008 sync Exchange tasks and categories? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Andy is right about several things:<br>
- Entourage 2008 has improved Exchange functionality<br>
- MS did release copious updates to 2004, improving its functionality as time went on.<br>
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2008 does most of what I need it to do, but still there is room for improvement (starting with note and task Exchange synch for one) that I trust MS will provide as free updates when they get it worked out.<br>
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I have met a few of the MacBU guys to know that they love the Mac platform and are trying to do their best withing the "belly of the beast" so to speak to deliver the goods. >> Stay informed about: So does Entourage 2008 sync Exchange tasks and categories? |
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Since: Sep 09, 2006 Posts: 3119
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(Msg. 36) Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 1:55 pm
Post subject: Re: So does Entourage 2008 sync Exchange tasks and categories? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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In article <ee888b5.61.DeleteThis@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw>, MacMac <> wrote:
> there is room for improvement (starting with note and task Exchange synch for
> one) that I trust MS will provide as free updates when they get it worked out
We can only hope they'll make this right in future updates...
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JR >> Stay informed about: So does Entourage 2008 sync Exchange tasks and categories? |
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Since: Jan 17, 2008 Posts: 8
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(Msg. 37) Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:58 pm
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Since: Feb 29, 2004 Posts: 701
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(Msg. 38) Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 7:38 am
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lamer <> wrote:
> it's just hard to stomach that outlook 2001 in OS 9 had more feature
> parity with the windows side than entourage 2008!
Outlook 2001 was developed by a different team with a different agenda and
different goals. And let's not compare the feature list between Outlook 2001
and even Entourage 2001.
The two products simply don't compare. If there are *specific* Outlook
features you're missing, suggest them to Microsoft. Microsoft is not going
to implement Outlook on the Mac, but they will continue to add specific
features that people request (such as Out Of Office).
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Since: Jan 15, 2008 Posts: 71
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(Msg. 39) Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 3:37 pm
Post subject: Re: So does Entourage 2008 sync Exchange tasks and categories? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Can't say strongly enough that the lack of "category" support when syncing with a Palm PDA or phone is absolutely pathetic. I bought Office 2008 for no other reason than the promised improvements from 2004 in Entourage. Unbeknownst to me that such a logical feature would be so "screwed-up" by your development team.<br>
Why would anyone want to upgrade to Entourage 2008 and not be able to sync ALL it's lovely features with a Palm device (for that matter Blackberry etc).<br>
To tell you the truth, unless I hear that this will be "fixed" in the very near future I plan on removing 2008 in favour of 2004 and deal with the loss.<br>
Additionally, the "fix" of forcing the use of iCal and the Mac sync feature is completely inadequate... What were you thinking? >> Stay informed about: So does Entourage 2008 sync Exchange tasks and categories? |
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Since: Jan 29, 2008 Posts: 2
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(Msg. 40) Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:13 am
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While I appreciate that a lot of hard work has undoubtedly been put in Entourage 2008 I simply cannot see how CORE PRODUCTIVITY FUNCTIONALITIES such as task and category syncing with exchange was completely overlooked. I believe this to be a symptom of the core underlying issue with the Mac Office product - Microsoft does not appear to take it seriously as a productivity tool. Instead they are more interested in making Office for Mac "flashy" or "creative".<br>
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I work for a company that provides outsourced IT solutions for several all mac and cross platform businesses and due to Microsoft's inability to include this functionality my recommendation will have to be to not bother upgrading to Office 2008.<br>
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I have been impressed with the improved multimedia aspects of Office 2008, however, Office is a PRODUCTIVITY tool. Very few users I have had discussions with, including myself, are concerned about whether or not they can make an attractive poster in Word. There are several applications for macs that already do a far better job with those kinds of creative projects.<br>
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Microsoft please address these issues. I have been running Entourage 2004 since exchange support was available and have not had any major reliability issues. What I have had to deal with was the fact that I could not get away from running a pc because Entourage was not a fully functional exchange client.<br>
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Thanks in advance for your consideration of my comments,<br>
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- Lance >> Stay informed about: So does Entourage 2008 sync Exchange tasks and categories? |
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Since: Sep 20, 2005 Posts: 14
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(Msg. 41) Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:35 am
Post subject: Re: So does Entourage 2008 sync Exchange tasks and categories? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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On Jan 29, 5:13 pm, "Lance - Cross Platform Systems Engineer" <>
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> While I appreciate that a lot of hard work has undoubtedly been put inEntourage2008 I simply cannot see how CORE PRODUCTIVITY FUNCTIONALITIES such as task and category syncing with exchange was completely overlooked.
> I believe this to be a symptom of the core underlying issue with the Mac Office product - Microsoftdoesnot appear to take it seriously as a productivity tool. Instead they are more interested in making Office for Mac "flashy" or "creative".
Your SUDDEN CAPS USE, notwithstanding, I think you're halfway there!
Microsoft does take the platform seriously, but not as a business
platform: If we were to compare how many Macintosh systems are used in
business ops, compared to how many are used in small offices/home
offices, I think we'd see the vast majority in the latter. So, with
this in mind, is Microsoft's Mac BU going to concentrate on serving SO/
HO or the corporate world? They're in it to make money. Where's the
most cash going to be generated?
Personally, I think a dual development strategy would be the best one,
from here. At the moment we have three (or is it four?) boxed products
for O2008 with marketing guff being the primary differences, as far as
I can tell; it would be better to have two distinct products; one with
all the bells and whistles and one with O2007 (or 2009, whatever)
compatibility being the driver.
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Since: Feb 29, 2004 Posts: 701
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(Msg. 42) Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:37 pm
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Lance - Cross Platform Systems Engineer <> wrote:
> While I appreciate that a lot of hard work has undoubtedly been put in
> Entourage 2008 I simply cannot see how CORE PRODUCTIVITY FUNCTIONALITIES
> such as task and category syncing with exchange was completely overlooked.
Your definition of "core" and others' differs. I, for example, do not use
categories or tasks on the Exchange server. The Entourage ones work fine.
I can't say this enough - send feedback to Microsoft (Help menu). Everyone
thinks their issue is #1, but Microsoft acts on the ones actually submitted
to them. Crying about it here does little.
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Since: Jan 31, 2008 Posts: 1
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(Msg. 43) Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:39 am
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Since: Feb 01, 2008 Posts: 1
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(Msg. 44) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:03 am
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It would be fantastic if someone at Microsoft please give us a target date when we can expect Task and Notes syncing to be ready? Even a date by which you will have a date would be useful. Currently we have no answer to our issue. I certainly requested that feature using the official form several years ago so I think it's clear I am in good company. It may not seem to meet the required effort/payoff ratio, but maybe MSFT should give this request a higher weight. My thinking would be that the folks who are whining about this particular feature are likely to be the most serious groupware users and experts. We really use the product and benefit from it the most and we're the trusted "mavens" that people depend on to tell them what are the best products in this space. When I talk about Entourage it's about Exchange and I always have to mention the two key pieces that don't sync to Exchange, Tasks and Notes. That's why I run Parallels on my Macbook with Outlook 2008. I would love to stay in OS X, but too much information is out of sync that way.<br>
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Please tell us when you can commit to get this piece working. That's what I think people really want to know.<br>
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Thanks! >> Stay informed about: So does Entourage 2008 sync Exchange tasks and categories? |
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Since: Jan 29, 2008 Posts: 2
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(Msg. 45) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:54 am
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Jon Lowry <> wrote: <br>
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It would be fantastic if someone at Microsoft >please give us a target<br>
date when we can expect >Task and Notes syncing to be ready? Even a date<br>
>by which you will have a date would be useful.<br>
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I completely agree with Jon and have also repeatedly made this request through the conduit provided in the software.<br>
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I also find it very interesting that in his Keynote a few weeks ago Bill Gates discussed that in the very near future Microsoft products will allow your data to follow you from device to devices wirelessly including your tv and potentially even your fridge. I find this interesting because Microsoft's flagship mac software doesn't even allow my tasks and notes to follow me from my macbook to my mobile device (a windows based smartphone). Their other comparable windows product has had this feature for years.<br>
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Microsoft, can you provide a valid explanation for this inconsistency? >> Stay informed about: So does Entourage 2008 sync Exchange tasks and categories? |
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