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TXCiclista

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(Msg. 16) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:50 am
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I think you would be safe on the "working on work at home" as long as you had a copy of Office at work. If, however, you were using your home version of Word to avoid buying it at work, that would be a violation of the EULA (since you be circumventing requirement to buy a business version for use in a business). If you buy it for your wife to use in a home business, you would be violating the EULA.<br>
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On the other hand...<br>
You can currently buy Office 2004 for <$150 and then upgrade to the "full, super-duper" version with no limitations for only $10. This would be the cheapest way to get a legitimate version for business use.

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 3:46 pm
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Thanks to all again<br>
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Yes, TXCiclista, I totally agree with you. If it is the odd work related email then that's one thing, but actually using Word to create, say, the odd work related letter at home MUST be against the licence. I just wished price difference (in the UK) wasn't so different (£350 for Standard, £100 for the 3 licence Home and Student).<br>
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Today I purchased a local version of the "Home and Student" for myself and I am currently looking at eBay USA checking prices for the Standard version (but having to weigh in things like import duty / VAT and so on).<br>
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I agree it's unlikely I'd be caught, but I really want to do this properly (hence posting on this forum in the first place).<br>
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Another odd situation I have thought about: One of the things I am about to start (and probably never finish) is writing a novel. So right now I can safely "Home and Student" but if my novel gets published I then would then presumably have to upgrade to Standard because it's now technically "work" :)<br>
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Well I'll worry about that happy day if it ever happens!<br>
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Regards<br>
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Tyrone Howe

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John McGhie1

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:12 pm
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Check the source of his message before you make an even bigger idiot of your
self, you idiot!


On 5/02/08 12:19 PM, in article 040220081849084917%rag@nospam.techline.com,
"Mr. Strat" <rag.TakeThisOut@nospam.techline.com> wrote:

> In article <ee8bbcf.10.TakeThisOut@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw>,
> <tyronehowe.TakeThisOut@officeformac.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello Michel<br>
>> <br>
>> Thanks - you guys really have answered all my questions!<br>
>> <br>
>> I have decided to buy two versions, The Home version for me and the standard
>> version for my wife (both from USA eBay).<br>
>> <br>
>> A satisfied customer here!<br>
>> <br>
>> Regards<br>
>> <br>
>> Tyrone Howe
>
> Quit posting in HTML, you idiot!

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(Msg. 19) Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:38 am
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Hello TXCiclista<br>
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I cannot find this special upgrade that you mention, but maybe I'm not looking in the right places.<br>
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Do you have a link to the US version please?<br>
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Thanks<br>
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Tyrone Howe
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:07 am
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Here's the US Amazon.com link. I didn't see a similar offer at amazon.co.uk<br>
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 <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/rebates/B0001WN16M/sr=8-1/qid=1202666727/ref=dp_rebates_1?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&s=software&qid=1202666727&sr=8-1>
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 3:29 pm
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On 2/10/08 8:38 AM, in article ee8bbcf.18.TakeThisOut@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw,
"tyronehowe@officeformac.com" <tyronehowe.TakeThisOut@officeformac.com> wrote:

> I cannot find this special upgrade that you mention, but maybe I'm not looking
> in the right places.

The Microsoft Office 2008 for Mac Technology Guarantee program allows
customers who purchase an edition of Office 2004 for Mac to receive an
edition of Office 2008 for the cost of shipping, handling and applicable
tax. This offer is valid for products purchased between September 25th, 2007
and March 31st, 2008.

<http://www.microsoft.com/mac/go/promotions/default.mspx>
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:40 am
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Hello Diane

Thank you, yes I have found it. That saves me about £100 so is very worthwhile. I have just placed an order, expect to arrive in a few days.

So I am now all set.

Thanks (to all) for your help.

Tyrone Howe
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:21 am
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Damn, i don't understand the ridiculous pricing for this Office package..... I only need the functionality of home package, but I use the software commercially, which forces me towards the regular package.

Stupid thing is that i almost bought the home package, since that is all i need for my work. It doesnt say ANYWHERE that it's illegal to use it for commercial work, until I will probably install it and read the EULA at that moment in time.

I still have an old Office 2000 license for the PC, does that also give me the right for upgrade?

Else, i'll be using good old Mac-native tools or Mozilla/OpenOffice software.... :-(
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:45 am
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On the back of the box, the comparison matrix says in small print at the
bottom that H&S is licensed for noncommercial use. But you are right,
it's not exactly specified on the webpage, or specified only by omission.

Sorry, WinOffice 2000 doesn't get you any discount for MacOffice (which
is a Mac-native tool, just by the way). I don't think Mozilla makes an
office suite--google for NeoOffice.

Erik van Fleppensteyn wrote:
> Damn, i don't understand the ridiculous pricing for this Office package..... I only need the functionality of home package, but I use the software commercially, which forces me towards the regular package.
>
> Stupid thing is that i almost bought the home package, since that is all i need for my work. It doesnt say ANYWHERE that it's illegal to use it for commercial work, until I will probably install it and read the EULA at that moment in time.
>
> I still have an old Office 2000 license for the PC, does that also give me the right for upgrade?
>
> Else, i'll be using good old Mac-native tools or Mozilla/OpenOffice software.... :-(
>
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 4:01 pm
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Hi Erik:

The situation is analogous to film or music distribution. If you only want
to use the thing at home for personal use, then it's a discounted price. If
you want to operate commercially and sell the result, you have to pay full
price.

You are not buying the "software". You are buying the "right to use it".
The licence to use is priced according to how much benefit you get from it.
Each kind of licence permits some kinds of use, and prohibits others. If
there were a "server" version and an "enterprise" version and a "data
centre" version, as there is with Windows, then the price jumps would really
get your attention :-)

In each case, the software is identical (* see below), but if you do not
need to use it for commercial purposes, Microsoft will cut you a discount.
On the other hand, if you want to install it across your entire corporation,
they want a bit more money :-)

However, Microsoft is not like the IRS. They're not going to come knocking
on your door and demand to see your documents :-) They ask that you do the
right thing, and they trust you: if you say that you are going to comply
with the terms of your licence, they will take you at your word!

If you can't afford the extra $200.00, well, Microsoft will cut you a bit of
slack. They will cheerfully sell you the Home and Student edition, and hope
that your business goes better next year as a result :-)

At the end of the day, it's the man in the mirror you have to live with :-)

* The Home and Student Edition does not have the ability to connect to an
Exchange Server. If you need to use Exchange email, it won't connect. The
full version will.

Hope this helps

On 28/02/08 10:51 PM, in article ee8bbcf.22.RemoveThis@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw, "Erik
van Fleppensteyn " <> wrote:

> Damn, i don't understand the ridiculous pricing for this Office package..... I
> only need the functionality of home package, but I use the software
> commercially, which forces me towards the regular package.
>
> Stupid thing is that i almost bought the home package, since that is all i
> need for my work. It doesnt say ANYWHERE that it's illegal to use it for
> commercial work, until I will probably install it and read the EULA at that
> moment in time.
>
> I still have an old Office 2000 license for the PC, does that also give me the
> right for upgrade?
>
> Else, i'll be using good old Mac-native tools or Mozilla/OpenOffice
> software.... :-(

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