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(Msg. 16) Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:06 pm
Post subject: Re: iPhone notes: a method to insert the *current date+time*? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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In article <0001HW.C4113ECA0009D906B01AD9AF.RemoveThis@news.gradwell.net>,
Ian Robinson <junk.RemoveThis@canicula.invalid> wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:03:12 +0000, Ivor Jones wrote
> (in article <651d7jF2d5vq5U1.RemoveThis@mid.individual.net>):
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> > Oh, they have "experienced technicians" standing by, do they..? Right. How
> > will that help me at 2.30 in the morning on the hard shoulder of the M6..?
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> Use a car charger. Or a combined FM transmitter/charger. The battery on my
> iPhone hasn't run out since I got it last year. It's not an issue for me.
He's made it clear his little brain can't think that far ahead in time.
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:24 pm
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"Ian Robinson" <junk RemoveThis @canicula.invalid> wrote in message
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: On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:36:53 +0000, Ivor Jones wrote
: (in article <651f6oF2dal7tU1 RemoveThis @mid.individual.net>):
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: > No, I'd use a sensible phone with a removable battery.
: > It might go flat when I'm not in a car.
:
: It might go flat when you've forgotten to charge your
: spare battery. There are lots of things that might
: happen. Like buy a phone that meets your needs. For you
: it doesn't seem to be the iPhone.
I've had mobile phones since the first hand portables came on the market.
I've always made sure I've had at least one spare fully charged battery
with me. Plus, if on an extended trip, two chargers, one mains powered the
other with a 12V car lead.
The phone that meets my needs BTW is the Nokia 6310i. Still using the same
batteries from the 6210 (that was a battery hog if ever there was one..!)
and the 6150 before that. Cycle them correctly and they last for years.
To be honest, my phones spend most of their time in the car kit so rarely
go completely flat, but I've always got at least one spare if they ever
do. It's still a stupid idea to design a piece of equipment that might
just be required in an emergency without the ability to change the battery
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:05 pm
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Hi Ian,
On 2008-03-27 13:08:42 +0100, Ian Robinson <junk.DeleteThis@canicula.invalid> said:
> The battery on my iPhone hasn't run out since I got it last year. It's
> not an issue for me.
.... read http://www.apple.com/batteries/iphone.html
The article says "For proper maintenance of a lithium-based battery,
itÕs important to keep the electrons in it moving occasionally. Be sure
to go through at least one charge cycle per month."
I did put my iPod batteries through a full cycle once per month and it
seemed to make it last longer than I thought it would. I do the same
with my iPhone battery.
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:22 pm
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On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:24:25 +0000, Ivor Jones wrote
(in article <651lgdF2do5f3U1.TakeThisOut@mid.individual.net>):
> It's still a stupid idea to design a piece of equipment that might
> just be required in an emergency without the ability to change the battery
> easily.
Not if its easy to charge the battery that's in it.
Ian
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:57 pm
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On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:06:54 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote
(in article
<jollyroger-49FA06.13065427032008.RemoveThis@earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>):
>> Use a car charger. Or a combined FM transmitter/charger. The battery on my
>> iPhone hasn't run out since I got it last year. It's not an issue for me.
>
> He's made it clear his little brain can't think that far ahead in time.
That's uncalled for. People are allowed to have differing opinions. Even when
they're wrong!
Ian
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:57 pm
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In article <0001HW.C4119EA10006473FB01AD9AF.RemoveThis@news.gradwell.net>,
Ian Robinson <junk.RemoveThis@canicula.invalid> wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:06:54 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote
> (in article
> <jollyroger-49FA06.13065427032008.RemoveThis@earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>):
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> >> Use a car charger. Or a combined FM transmitter/charger. The battery on my
> >> iPhone hasn't run out since I got it last year. It's not an issue for me.
> >
> > He's made it clear his little brain can't think that far ahead in time.
>
> That's uncalled for. People are allowed to have differing opinions. Even when
> they're wrong!
I saw his statements that the iPhone isn't a "sensible phone", his
refusal to consider using a car charger with an iPhone while happily
using one with your Nokia, and his refusal to let Apple or a third party
replace the battery for him as trolls. I guess I was wrong?
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:21 pm
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:52 pm
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"Ian Robinson" <junk.DeleteThis@canicula.invalid> wrote in message
news:0001HW.C4117A35000AF7E6B01AD9AF@news.gradwell.net
: On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:24:25 +0000, Ivor Jones wrote
: (in article <651lgdF2do5f3U1.DeleteThis@mid.individual.net>):
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: > It's still a stupid idea to design a piece of equipment
: > that might
: > just be required in an emergency without the ability to
: > change the battery easily.
:
: Not if its easy to charge the battery that's in it.
Well if you're out walking it isn't very easy now is it..? Not without
those "experienced technicians" along with you.
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:54 pm
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:56 pm
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"Jolly Roger" <jollyroger.TakeThisOut@pobox.com> wrote in message
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[snip]
: I saw his statements that the iPhone isn't a "sensible
: phone", his refusal to consider using a car charger with
: an iPhone while happily using one with your Nokia, and
: his refusal to let Apple or a third party replace the
: battery for him as trolls. I guess I was wrong?
How precisely am I supposed to "let Apple or a third party replace the
battery" when I'm out for a walk..?
My whole point is that at some stage the battery *might just* go flat when
you're not within range of a charger or an "experienced technician" - what
do you do then..? I can change the battery on just about any other phone.
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(Msg. 26) Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:56 pm
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In article <6554ckF2edv8mU1 DeleteThis @mid.individual.net>,
"Ivor Jones" <ivor DeleteThis @thisaddressis.invalid> wrote:
> "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger DeleteThis @pobox.com> wrote in message
> news:jollyroger-28218E.14102027032008@earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net
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> [snip]
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> : I saw his statements that the iPhone isn't a "sensible
> : phone", his refusal to consider using a car charger with
> : an iPhone while happily using one with your Nokia, and
> : his refusal to let Apple or a third party replace the
> : battery for him as trolls. I guess I was wrong?
>
> How precisely am I supposed to "let Apple or a third party replace the
> battery" when I'm out for a walk..?
>
> My whole point is that at some stage the battery *might just* go flat when
> you're not within range of a charger or an "experienced technician" - what
> do you do then..?
Notice the symptoms of a battery losing its charge ahead of time. Plan
ahead better.
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(Msg. 27) Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:59 pm
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"Jolly Roger" <jollyroger.RemoveThis@pobox.com> wrote in message
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[snip]
: Your iPhone battery will slowly hold less and less charge
: over time, so you'll have plenty of warning that a new
: battery is needed. If you ignore that and decide to wait
: until the last possible second to think about changing a
: battery, you're every bit as dumb as you sound.
:
: Duh.
Don't be stupid. A battery going flat through normal use is not the same
as one failing through coming to the end of its life.
At some stage, you'll end up using the phone enough to flatten the battery
when you're not within range of a charger. You could do that with a brand
new battery never mind an old one.
Duh.
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(Msg. 28) Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:59 pm
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In article <6554i1F2eco8cU1.DeleteThis@mid.individual.net>,
"Ivor Jones" <ivor.DeleteThis@thisaddressis.invalid> wrote:
> "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger.DeleteThis@pobox.com> wrote in message
> news:jollyroger-C9366C.13055627032008@earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net
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> [snip]
>
> : Your iPhone battery will slowly hold less and less charge
> : over time, so you'll have plenty of warning that a new
> : battery is needed. If you ignore that and decide to wait
> : until the last possible second to think about changing a
> : battery, you're every bit as dumb as you sound.
> :
> : Duh.
>
> Don't be stupid. A battery going flat through normal use is not the same
> as one failing through coming to the end of its life.
You have ample warning either way. So it's the same in that respect,
and that's what we are talking about here.
> At some stage, you'll end up using the phone enough to flatten the battery
> when you're not within range of a charger.
Then you didn't plan ahead very well, I'd say.
> You could do that with a brand
> new battery never mind an old one.
>
> Duh.
If you find yourself in this situation, you have nobody to blame but
yourself.
Duh indeed.
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(Msg. 29) Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:21 pm
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On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 20:52:06 +0000, Ivor Jones wrote
(in article <65543pF2ec4cvU1 DeleteThis @mid.individual.net>):
>> Not if its easy to charge the battery that's in it.
>
> Well if you're out walking it isn't very easy now is it..? Not without
> those "experienced technicians" along with you.
You seem to be changing your reason for not getting an iPhone whenever people
address the concern in your most recent post. If it doesn't meet your needs
don't buy one.
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(Msg. 30) Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:33 pm
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"Ian Robinson" <junk.TakeThisOut@canicula.invalid> wrote in message
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: On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 20:52:06 +0000, Ivor Jones wrote
: (in article <65543pF2ec4cvU1.TakeThisOut@mid.individual.net>):
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: >> Not if its easy to charge the battery that's in it.
: >
: > Well if you're out walking it isn't very easy now is
: > it..? Not without those "experienced technicians" along
: > with you.
:
: You seem to be changing your reason for not getting an
: iPhone whenever people address the concern in your most
: recent post. If it doesn't meet your needs don't buy one.
I won't. But you're missing my point, which has been the same from the
start - if your battery goes flat when you're not able to charge it or
swap it for a fresh one, then you're snookered.
Which, despite what you may believe, is my sole reason for disliking the
iPhone. If it had a swappable battery I would seriously consider it as an
alternative (but not as a main phone, the 6310i is just too good..!)
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