iTunes Convert to mp3?

On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 18:42:26 -0600, Mark Modrall wrote
(in article <mmodrall-D8EFA3.19425712012006 DeleteThis @news.verizon.net>):

> Hi...
>
> I've never purchased anything from the iTunes store before - can I
> use the Convert To MP3 option on the aac files I purchase at the store?
>
> Thanks
> _mark

You can but with even more loss of fidelity - much more than you get when you
go from WAV/AIFF to MP3. Unless you absolutely need MP3, leave well enough
alone.

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Tim
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sbt <dogbreath.RemoveThis@chaseabone.com.invalid> writes:
>
> Not directly. You would need to burn them to a CD first, then reimport
> the song from the CD. This will result in (probably noticeable)
> quality loss. Songs purchased from the iTMS are "protected" (.m4p)
> files with Digital Rights Management encoded into them.

Burning and ripping as MP3 should sound any worse than just transcoding
from AAC to MP3.

-- David
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Tim Lance <lance_1012.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> writes:
>
> You can but with even more loss of fidelity - much more than you get
> when you go from WAV/AIFF to MP3. Unless you absolutely need MP3,
> leave well enough alone.

Of course, if you don't have a WAV/AIFF, then you make do with what you
have.

I've had to do the same thing (burn/rip to MP3) in order to make MP3 CDs
that I can play in the car.

-- David
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In article <m23bjs7l78.fsf.RemoveThis@qqqq.invalid>, shamino.RemoveThis@techie.com (David C.)
wrote:

> Tim Lance <lance_1012.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> writes:
> >
> > You can but with even more loss of fidelity - much more than you get
> > when you go from WAV/AIFF to MP3. Unless you absolutely need MP3,
> > leave well enough alone.
>
> Of course, if you don't have a WAV/AIFF, then you make do with what you
> have.
>
> I've had to do the same thing (burn/rip to MP3) in order to make MP3 CDs
> that I can play in the car.
>
> -- David

Aside from the fact that (as I understand it) MP3 CDs can hold more
music than the usual audio format, is there any other advantage to this
format for use in the car? I ask so that I can pass on any useful
wisdom to my daughter, who just got a new unit installed in her car.

= Steve =
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Steve W. Jackson
Montgomery, Alabama
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In article <stevewjackson-20196B.14342413012006.DeleteThis@individual.net>, Steve
W. Jackson <stevewjackson.DeleteThis@charter.net> wrote:

> In article <m23bjs7l78.fsf.DeleteThis@qqqq.invalid>, shamino.DeleteThis@techie.com (David C.)
> wrote:
>
> > Tim Lance <lance_1012.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> writes:
> > >
> > > You can but with even more loss of fidelity - much more than you get
> > > when you go from WAV/AIFF to MP3. Unless you absolutely need MP3,
> > > leave well enough alone.
> >
> > Of course, if you don't have a WAV/AIFF, then you make do with what you
> > have.
> >
> > I've had to do the same thing (burn/rip to MP3) in order to make MP3 CDs
> > that I can play in the car.
> >
> > -- David
>
> Aside from the fact that (as I understand it) MP3 CDs can hold more
> music than the usual audio format, is there any other advantage to this
> format for use in the car? I ask so that I can pass on any useful
> wisdom to my daughter, who just got a new unit installed in her car.
>

I don't know if I would call it an "advantage," but you're far less
likely to notice an MP3's quality difference from CD-DA in a car, due
to the ambient noise and generally lower speaker quality than that
found in a home/studio.

--
Spenser
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In article <stevewjackson-20196B.14342413012006.TakeThisOut@individual.net>,
"Steve W. Jackson" <stevewjackson.TakeThisOut@charter.net> wrote:

> Aside from the fact that (as I understand it) MP3 CDs can hold more
> music than the usual audio format, is there any other advantage to this
> format for use in the car? I ask so that I can pass on any useful
> wisdom to my daughter, who just got a new unit installed in her car.

You can put all the music you ever want to listen to on one MP3 CD. You
can only put about an hour of music on an audio cd, and only about 18
minutes if you're just a greedy well-known rock band.
--
W. Oates
"I thought I was the last son of Krypton,
but you people keep popping up." -- Clark Kent
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In article <warren.oates-041BAF.16444713012006 DeleteThis @news.bellglobal.com>,
Warren Oates <warren.oates DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:

> In article <stevewjackson-20196B.14342413012006 DeleteThis @individual.net>,
> "Steve W. Jackson" <stevewjackson DeleteThis @charter.net> wrote:
>
> > Aside from the fact that (as I understand it) MP3 CDs can hold more
> > music than the usual audio format, is there any other advantage to this
> > format for use in the car? I ask so that I can pass on any useful
> > wisdom to my daughter, who just got a new unit installed in her car.
>
> You can put all the music you ever want to listen to on one MP3 CD. You
> can only put about an hour of music on an audio cd, and only about 18
> minutes if you're just a greedy well-known rock band.

I'll pass that along to her, since I'm sure she'd like to be able to put
more music on a CD for her driving pleasure.

Thanks,
= Steve =
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Steve W. Jackson
Montgomery, Alabama
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In article <130120061349379198%dogbreath@chaseabone.com.invalid>,
sbt <dogbreath.DeleteThis@chaseabone.com.invalid> wrote:

> In article <stevewjackson-20196B.14342413012006.DeleteThis@individual.net>, Steve
> W. Jackson <stevewjackson.DeleteThis@charter.net> wrote:
>
> > In article <m23bjs7l78.fsf.DeleteThis@qqqq.invalid>, shamino.DeleteThis@techie.com (David C.)
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Tim Lance <lance_1012.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> writes:
> > > >
> > > > You can but with even more loss of fidelity - much more than you get
> > > > when you go from WAV/AIFF to MP3. Unless you absolutely need MP3,
> > > > leave well enough alone.
> > >
> > > Of course, if you don't have a WAV/AIFF, then you make do with what you
> > > have.
> > >
> > > I've had to do the same thing (burn/rip to MP3) in order to make MP3 CDs
> > > that I can play in the car.
> > >
> > > -- David
> >
> > Aside from the fact that (as I understand it) MP3 CDs can hold more
> > music than the usual audio format, is there any other advantage to this
> > format for use in the car? I ask so that I can pass on any useful
> > wisdom to my daughter, who just got a new unit installed in her car.
> >
>
> I don't know if I would call it an "advantage," but you're far less
> likely to notice an MP3's quality difference from CD-DA in a car, due
> to the ambient noise and generally lower speaker quality than that
> found in a home/studio.

In her case, she listens to music at home on her iMac (a 1GHz G4 model)
with the speakers that shipped with it, and has old (and probably
not-so-good quality) speakers in her car. So I doubt this will make
much difference to her. Sounds like she'd be happier with MP3 CDs in
the car.

Thanks,
= Steve =
--
Steve W. Jackson
Montgomery, Alabama
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"Steve W. Jackson" <stevewjackson DeleteThis @charter.net> writes:
>
> Aside from the fact that (as I understand it) MP3 CDs can hold more
> music than the usual audio format, is there any other advantage to this
> format for use in the car? I ask so that I can pass on any useful
> wisdom to my daughter, who just got a new unit installed in her car.

The higher capacity is the main reason for MP3 CDs in the car.

With 6-10 hours of music on a disc, I only need to make one mix-CD for
an entire weekend road trip.

The sound quality is inferior to the original CDs, but I rarely notice,
due to the road and wind noise from the car's motion.

-- David
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> Aside from the fact that (as I understand it) MP3 CDs can hold more
> music than the usual audio format, is there any other advantage to this
> format for use in the car? I ask so that I can pass on any useful
> wisdom to my daughter, who just got a new unit installed in her car.
>
> = Steve =

The new unit will of course have to be capable of playing .mp3, which
not all units can. T-L
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> In her case, she listens to music at home on her iMac (a 1GHz G4 model)
> with the speakers that shipped with it, and has old (and probably
> not-so-good quality) speakers in her car. So I doubt this will make
> much difference to her. Sounds like she'd be happier with MP3 CDs in
> the car.

It sounds like a good solution for her. Before iPods were all the rage,
I traveled in Europe with a portable CD player and 12 hours of
music...on a single MP3 CD. That may not seem like so much, but in the
90s I would travel with a cassette player and 3 or 4 tapes holding only
4-6 hours of music total, so the MP3 CD player seemed like a huge step
up in compactness and flexibility. MP3 CD is a great solution where
you're not in an audiophile environment and you don't have an iPod or a
connection for one.

Today I have the same 12 hour music capacity on a little iPod shuffle
that is routed through the tape player when in my old beater car.
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In article <200120061421082350%Trent-Lion@No.Name.com>,
Trent-Lion <Trent-Lion RemoveThis @No.Name.com> wrote:

> > Aside from the fact that (as I understand it) MP3 CDs can hold more
> > music than the usual audio format, is there any other advantage to this
> > format for use in the car? I ask so that I can pass on any useful
> > wisdom to my daughter, who just got a new unit installed in her car.
> >
> > = Steve =
>
> The new unit will of course have to be capable of playing .mp3, which
> not all units can. T-L

I bought her the unit for a Christmas gift and know that it has this
capability. I just wasn't quite sure of any advantages using the MP3 CD
format versus burning an audio CD.

= Steve =
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Montgomery, Alabama
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