I just inherited a Macintosh LC II

In article <slrnfs3k6j.pfn.gsm DeleteThis @cable.mendelson.com>, Geoffrey S.
Mendelson <gsm DeleteThis @mendelson.com> wrote:

> nospam wrote:
> > maybe there are different versions of the cd, but the cd i have doesn't
> > work that way.
>
> Look for a folder named "Disk Images". Mine has a folder inside it called
> "Mac OS 7.6".

my cd is 7.6.1, perhaps that's the difference.
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Jamisu wrote:

> I checked out the info on
> http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=112185,
> and I have a couple of questions I was hoping someone could answer.
>
> My system has 4MB of RAM. What exactly would I be looking for to
> upgrade it?

A Mac Pro with two 3.2GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon processors (8-core) and
32GB of RAM.

Davoud

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On 2008-02-24 05:35:50 -0800, J.J. O'Shea <try.not.to.RemoveThis@but.see.sig> said:

> Mostly. Some very old games demand (yes, demand) 16 colours, and refuse to
> run on anything else. Which was annoying when, as of System 7.something, the
> Mac OS wouldn't let you go below 256 colours. The game can't tell that 256
> colours are available, which is well above its requirements. It can only tell
> that the video system is NOT set for 16 colours, and will refuse to run.
>
> There are other games which behave similarly, only with 256 colours. Examples
> of bad programming.

Sometimes it was a real requirement because of the way the video was
being mapped to the screen and not just a lazily-written check.
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On 2008-02-25 15:00:28 -0800, Steven Fisher <sdfisher DeleteThis @spamcop.net> said:

> Sometimes it was a real requirement because of the way the video was
> being mapped to the screen and not just a lazily-written check.

Say, wasn't there a trick for getting into 16 color mode even after it
had been apparently removed? I can't remember what it was... option
key, maybe?
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Check out www.lowendmac.com for info on your priceless antique.
Please realize that nothing made in the last decade will run on it, but
you can get legacy versions of Eudora (an email app) from
http://www.eudora.com, and Newswatcher (an nntp client), and numerous
other legacy mac apps from:
http://hyperarchive.lcs.mit.edu/HyperArchive.html, which is till
operating, in spite of being "officially" closed.

You can also still get system 7 from apple. I believe that's the newest
OS you'll be able to run. You'll need to find the link to it, which is
buried rather deeply. A shortcut is to go to wikipedia, and search for
system 7. Then scroll tot he bottom of the article, and follow the
appropriate links.

Somewhere on google groups, there is a stagnant development project for
machttp. That's a webserver that will run on your box. It's as much a
priceless antique as your box, but it was updated earlier this decade by
it's original author and friends, so you can even run a minimalist
webserver off of it.

It's a cool toy if you've never used a mac before. Do realize it's
closing in on it's 20th birthday, though.

Enjoy!

Joshua

In article <2008022412113316807-nospam@nospamcom>,
rezwits <nospam.TakeThisOut@nospam.com> wrote:

> On 2008-02-24 00:56:59 -0800, Jamisu <james.skow.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> said:
>
> > I checked out the info on
> > http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=112185,
> > and I have a couple of questions I was hoping someone could answer.
> >
> > My system has 4MB of RAM. What exactly would I be looking for to
> > upgrade it?
>
> If you want to upgrade that could prove difficult and maybe not worth
> it, cause you could get a used G3 iMac.
>
> >
> > I see that the hard drive is SCSI. What's the biggest hard drive this
> > will support?
>
> Off the top of my head I would say 4 GB, but those drives are hard to
> find. Those were the top of the line back in the day.
>
> >
> > Installed on it now is system 7.0.1, but is capable of running 7.6.1.
> > When I checked out ebay, I found that 7.6.1 is only available on CD.
> > What model CD drive would be compatible with the LC II? I have an old
> > AppleCD 300e Plus, but it doesn't have the right type of connector on
> > the back.
>
> You just need a 25 pin to 50 pin cable
>
> >
> > If I want to pick up some old games, what specifics should I look for?
> > Am I wrong in assuming that anything on a floppy will run?
>
> Shanghai is Cool.
>
> >
> > Are there any other upgrades I should look into doing? I just want
> > this machine to run at it's top performance for old time's sake.
>
> hmm...
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Jamisu wrote:
> I checked out the info on http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=112185,
> and I have a couple of questions I was hoping someone could answer.

Don't forget WordPerfect.

http://lowendmac.com/misc/010212.html

The download links are long since broken, but you can find it if you
look around. Since they released it for free, I've used it to make
useable systems out of 680x0 Macs running System 7.5.

You can use it to write a book, do your homework, and even do some
simple web pages. If you get a decent printer for your Mac, you can
use it for low end desktop publishing, the kind where you make up
a page on your Mac and take them to a copy shop and then stick them
up in your supermarket, etc.

You can also make up booklets, etc.

It's fairly big, so unless you have a larger hard drive than the
original and either a CD-ROM drive or ethernet to get it there
in the first place, I would not bother.

Geoff.
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In article <joshuafwhalen-19B9EA.15183926022008.RemoveThis@reader2.panix.com>,
Joshua Whalen <joshuafwhalen.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:

> Somewhere on google groups, there is a stagnant development project for
> machttp. That's a webserver that will run on your box. It's as much a
> priceless antique as your box, but it was updated earlier this decade by
> it's original author and friends, so you can even run a minimalist
> webserver off of it.

On my Quadra 630, I used Netpresenz, by Peter Lewis:

http://www.stairways.com/main/netpresenz
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In article <joshuafwhalen-19B9EA.15183926022008 RemoveThis @reader2.panix.com>,
Joshua Whalen <joshuafwhalen RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:

> Somewhere on google groups, there is a stagnant development project for
> machttp. That's a webserver that will run on your box. It's as much a
> priceless antique as your box, but it was updated earlier this decade by
> it's original author and friends, so you can even run a minimalist
> webserver off of it.

It's not on Google Groups. It's got its own domain:

<http://www.machttp.org/>

Only, it appears something happened to the site recently. Most of the
content is gone - hopefully not the result of malicious activity! This
is what it used to look like:

<http://web.archive.org/web/20060924123036/http://www.machttp.org/>

And here's the VersionTracker listing:

<http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macos/9856>

BTW, I run MacHTTP 24 hours a day, seven days a week on Zippy, my little
Mac SE/30:

<http://zippy.kicks-ass.org:9997>

It's quite a solid web server!

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Jamisu <james.skow.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:

> I checked out the info on
> http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=112185, and I have a couple
> of questions I was hoping someone could answer.
>
> My system has 4MB of RAM. What exactly would I be looking for to
> upgrade it?
>
> I see that the hard drive is SCSI. What's the biggest hard drive this
> will support?

Since the LC style case probably does not have enough room for a
68pin-to-50pin converter, you're stuck with 18 GB disks.[*] I saw a data
sheet for a 36 GB disk with 50pin narrow SCSI from Seagate years back,
but never saw it on price lists. Anything narrow SCSI over 4 GB is
sought after, and expensive.

> Installed on it now is system 7.0.1, but is capable of running 7.6.1.

You have the slowest 68030 Mac that Apple ever produced. 7.5 will not be
much fun, especially with what limited memory options the LC II has. I'd
recommend either sticking with 7.0.1, or getting a 7.1 floppy set from
ebay. From what I've heard, 7.1 can selectively be extended with most of
the gimmicks that were introduced with 7.5.

> If I want to pick up some old games, what specifics should I look for?
> Am I wrong in assuming that anything on a floppy will run?

Hard to say. But since they shouldn't be too expensive, why not give it
a try (and report back)?

hauke


[*] I have a Quadra 650 here with a 36 GB Seagate Cheetah, so there's no
real limit disk-wise. Ahh, SCSI...

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