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Since: Jul 18, 2007 Posts: 84
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 2:07 am
Post subject: iphoto/adjust/levels...??? Archived from groups: comp>sys>mac>graphics (more info?)
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So--
in the iphoto's application, there is an edit feature,
And within that:
Brightness, Contrast, Exposure
and Levels.
i think i have a good idea of what Brightness, Contrast & even
Exposure are/do...
But Levels completely baffles me.
i've looked and compared the graph to the pictures and i can not see
any correlation whatsoever...!!!
What is that representing...???
What does the x & y axis' represent...???
Thanx! >> Stay informed about: iphoto/adjust/levels...??? |
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Since: Jul 16, 2005 Posts: 533
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 11:04 pm
Post subject: Re: iphoto/adjust/levels...??? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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In article <1193476062.095758.49830.TakeThisOut@y27g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
The Translucent Amoebae <transamoebae.TakeThisOut@seanet.com> wrote:
> So--
> in the iphoto's application, there is an edit feature,
> And within that:
> Brightness, Contrast, Exposure
> and Levels.
> i think i have a good idea of what Brightness, Contrast & even
> Exposure are/do...
> But Levels completely baffles me.
> i've looked and compared the graph to the pictures and i can not see
> any correlation whatsoever...!!!
> What is that representing...???
> What does the x & y axis' represent...???
>
> Thanx!
Open up a very contrasty photo where there's a lot of light and dark
areas, then fiddle with the settings under levels such as exposure.
Notice that as you change the exposure and other controls, the histogram
in the levels window changes. If you move the end points in the levels
area to the point where the histogram begins, then adjust the middle
point, you can bring out a lot of detail in the photo. >> Stay informed about: iphoto/adjust/levels...??? |
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Since: Jul 18, 2007 Posts: 84
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 1:32 am
Post subject: Re: iphoto/adjust/levels...??? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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On Oct 28, 8:04 pm, Shawn Hirn <s....DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote:
> In article <1193476062.095758.49....DeleteThis@y27g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
> The Translucent Amoebae <transamoe....DeleteThis@seanet.com> wrote:
>
> > So--
> > in the iphoto's application, there is an edit feature,
> > And within that:
> > Brightness, Contrast, Exposure
> > and Levels.
> > i think i have a good idea of what Brightness, Contrast & even
> > Exposure are/do...
> > But Levels completely baffles me.
> > i've looked and compared the graph to the pictures and i can not see
> > any correlation whatsoever...!!!
> > What is that representing...???
> > What does the x & y axis' represent...???
>
> > Thanx!
>
> Open up a very contrasty photo where there's a lot of light and dark
> areas, then fiddle with the settings under levels such as exposure.
> Notice that as you change the exposure and other controls, the histogram
> in the levels window changes. If you move the end points in the levels
> area to the point where the histogram begins, then adjust the middle
> point, you can bring out a lot of detail in the photo.
i think about them this way...
Brightness seems to increase/decrease the whiteness of all pixels
uniformly
Contrast seems to make dark pixels darker, and light pixels lighter
Exposure is more complicated;
When you lighten a picture, the light pixels get lighter, but the dark
pixels remain pretty much the same darkness. This occurs along a
curve, so the dark pixels are effected, but not by as much.
likewise, when you darken a picture with Exposure, the dark pixels get
darker, and the light pixels remain pretty much the same.
i do use the Levels controls, and i've noticed that when the spikes
are clumped together in the middle, and i slide the dark or light
towards the mountains, it seems to bring out detail by enhancing
surface texture with local contrast...???
But i STILL don't SEE what the mountains are supposed to be
representing...
Obviously; it's a graph of somekind, and as such, the x & y axis must
represent SOMETHING...???
But i just don't see what...???
thanx...??? >> Stay informed about: iphoto/adjust/levels...??? |
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Since: Jul 16, 2005 Posts: 533
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:28 pm
Post subject: Re: iphoto/adjust/levels...??? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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In article <1193733169.993827.142570.DeleteThis@k35g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
The Translucent Amoebae <transamoebae.DeleteThis@seanet.com> wrote:
> i think about them this way...
> Brightness seems to increase/decrease the whiteness of all pixels
> uniformly
> Contrast seems to make dark pixels darker, and light pixels lighter
> Exposure is more complicated;
> When you lighten a picture, the light pixels get lighter, but the dark
> pixels remain pretty much the same darkness. This occurs along a
> curve, so the dark pixels are effected, but not by as much.
> likewise, when you darken a picture with Exposure, the dark pixels get
> darker, and the light pixels remain pretty much the same.
>
> i do use the Levels controls, and i've noticed that when the spikes
> are clumped together in the middle, and i slide the dark or light
> towards the mountains, it seems to bring out detail by enhancing
> surface texture with local contrast...???
>
> But i STILL don't SEE what the mountains are supposed to be
> representing...
> Obviously; it's a graph of somekind, and as such, the x & y axis must
> represent SOMETHING...???
> But i just don't see what...???
I just googled for "digital photo histogram" and the first hit was
http://www.photoxels.com/tutorial_histogram.html which does a good job
of explaining what the histogram means. >> Stay informed about: iphoto/adjust/levels...??? |
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Since: Oct 31, 2007 Posts: 137
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 5:23 pm
Post subject: Re: iphoto/adjust/levels...??? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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On Oct 30, 6:28 pm, Shawn Hirn <s... RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote:
> In article <1193733169.993827.142... RemoveThis @k35g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
> The Translucent Amoebae <transamoe... RemoveThis @seanet.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > i think about them this way...
> > Brightness seems to increase/decrease the whiteness of all pixels
> > uniformly
> > Contrast seems to make dark pixels darker, and light pixels lighter
> > Exposure is more complicated;
> > When you lighten a picture, the light pixels get lighter, but the dark
> > pixels remain pretty much the same darkness. This occurs along a
> > curve, so the dark pixels are effected, but not by as much.
> > likewise, when you darken a picture with Exposure, the dark pixels get
> > darker, and the light pixels remain pretty much the same.
>
> > i do use the Levels controls, and i've noticed that when the spikes
> > are clumped together in the middle, and i slide the dark or light
> > towards the mountains, it seems to bring out detail by enhancing
> > surface texture with local contrast...???
>
> > But i STILL don't SEE what the mountains are supposed to be
> > representing...
> > Obviously; it's a graph of somekind, and as such, the x & y axis must
> > represent SOMETHING...???
> > But i just don't see what...???
>
> I just googled for "digital photo histogram" and the first hit washttp://www.photoxels.com/tutorial_histogram.htmlwhich does a good job
> of explaining what the histogram means.
Thanx, i have never been able to figure out how to get search engines
to return anything useful either...!!! >> Stay informed about: iphoto/adjust/levels...??? |
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