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Rowland McDonnell wrote:
>
> Funny? In a macabre way, yes; at least it's not a catastrophe.
>


But how do you know if it's not a cat-ass-trophy?

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whisky-dave wrote:
> "Rowland McDonnell" <real-address-in-sig.RemoveThis@flur.bltigibbet> wrote in message
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>> TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft.RemoveThis@mac.coom> wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>> That a monkey and a man could be mixed has been proven--just take a look
>>> at
>>> the President of the United States!
>> Not so: chimpanzees are apes rather than monkeys.
>>
>> An important point to bear in mind.
>
> A bear in the mind is worth two in the Bush :-)
>
>

The US has too much Bush, time to trim or better yet go completely bare!

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Phil Taylor <nothere.DeleteThis@all.invalid> wrote:

> Richard Todd <rmtodd.DeleteThis@ichotolot.servalan.com> wrote:
>
> > real-address-in-sig.DeleteThis@flur.bltigibbet (Rowland McDonnell) writes:
> >
> > > Warren Oates <warren.oates.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Wasn't certain he wasn't the chap played Blackadder, who now plays
> > >House.
> > >
> > > Blackadder? Plays House? No, there's no-one in Blackadder with any
> > > significant resemblence to the current Archbishop of Canterbury that I
> > > can think of and I've got all four seasons on DVD. I have no idea
> > > what `plays House' might mean.
> >
> > I assume he's referring to Hugh Laurie, who played the Prince Regent in
> > Blackadder III and currently plays Dr. Gregory House in the current TV
> > series "House, M.D."
> >
> > What resemblance any of these folks may have to the Archbishop of
> > Canterbury, I have no idea.
>
> They share 99.999% of their genes?
>
> (I understood you perfectly Warren:-)

Excellent!

Could you perhaps explain for me?

What's he on about? Surreal humour, I get. I see none in Warren's
post. It's just - well, what?

If you don't want to help me out with this, please don't respond with
any abuse.

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Tim Streater <tim.streater DeleteThis @dante.org.uk> wrote:

> real-address-in-sig DeleteThis @flur.bltigibbet (Rowland McDonnell) wrote:
>
> > Warren Oates <warren.oates DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > real-address-in-sig DeleteThis @flur.bltigibbet (Rowland McDonnell) wrote:
> > >
> > > > Rowan Williams is indeed a highly intellectual Welshman - it's nice
> > > > to hear someone speak who demands that I engage my brain properly.
> > > > Can't say I've noticed any Tom Jones style speech and some old
> > > > nursery rhymes really should remain dead and buried.
> > > >
> > > > But my main reason for this post is to ask: you what?
> > >
> > > Wasn't certain he wasn't the chap played Blackadder, who now plays
> > > House.
> >
> > Blackadder? Plays House? No, there's no-one in Blackadder with any
> > significant resemblence to the current Archbishop of Canterbury that I
> > can think of and I've got all four seasons on DVD. I have no idea what
> > `plays House' might mean.
> >
> > Conclusion: he's rambling to himself; it's not supposed to make any
> > sense to anyone who doesn't know what he's thinking about.
>
> He confusing Rowan Williams with Rowan Atkinson. Silly boy.

Oh!

Right.

Yeah, well, that's why I didn't `get it'. It's random idiocy that I
couldn't possibly have guessed at.

Rowland.


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Tim Streater <tim.streater.DeleteThis@dante.org.uk> wrote:

> real-address-in-sig.DeleteThis@flur.bltigibbet (Rowland McDonnell) wrote:
>
> > Warren Oates <warren.oates.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > real-address-in-sig.DeleteThis@flur.bltigibbet (Rowland McDonnell) wrote:
> > >
> > > > I think all the churchmen I've heard on the subject have been more
> > > > measured than me - if not quite as intelligent, unless I happen to
> > > > have heard Rowan Williams on the subject. Then again, I listen to
> > > > Radio 4, I have no telly, and do nothing but sneer at newspapers
> > > > these days.
> > >
> > > Such an intellectual! Rowan Williams, he's that C of E chap, talks
> > > like Tom Jones, came to my house and stole a side of beef, right?
> >
> > Rowan Williams is indeed a highly intellectual Welshman - it's nice to
> > hear someone speak who demands that I engage my brain properly.
>
> Right. I heard him and John Sentamu in discussion in Cambridge. Engaging
> was the word all right.

I can't say I've heard 'em both together. John Sentamu tends to avoid
the heavy duty stuff when I've heard him - he's the one they call `more
accessible' and I call `lightweight' /based on what I've heard/.

I gather he's not an intellectual lightweight inside his head, but that
in public he mostly leaves the heavy stuff to the Primate of ALL
England[1], while he gets on with being nice and normal.

> His trouble (I won't say problem, because it
> isn't) is that he's not a politician.

But the job of Archbishop of Canterbury is a political one in many ways.
You've got to be a politician to do the job, surely?

> His role is also misunderstood.

By whom?

> He
> is *not* the "Pope" of the Anglican Communion.

Of course not; Christian churches aren't Christian with something like a
`Pope' at the top. Can't be. The Pope says he's infalliable, makes out
that somehow *his* line to God is so much better than anyone else's that
it's his job to tell everyone else what to do.

That's anti-Christian, that is.

>Anglican bishops are
> essentially autonomous and are not subordinate to the Archbish.

No Christian - no genuine Christian following the real teachings of
Jesus - accepts the authority of any man over that of his own conscience
and understanding of the teachings of Jesus.

That idea is not a radical one these days, but it was when people like
Martin Luther and John Wesley were around. Quite a lot of English
preachers have pushed the line and an awful lot of them got into quite
bad trouble.

Men in charge don't like to be told that they shouldn't be in charge, do
they?

Rowland.

[1] York is Primate of England. Or used to be - maybe they've changed
the titles a bit, but I doubt it.


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Warren Oates <warren.oates RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:

> Tim Streater <tim.streater RemoveThis @dante.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > He confusing Rowan Williams with Rowan Atkinson. Silly boy.
>
> ... and a fine troll it was and all. I threw in the bit about House to
> annoy purists. He played Bertie Wooster, of course, and I'd forgotten
> that he'd appeared in Blackadder.

[snip]

Troll, was it?

Hmm.

Noted.

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Tim Streater <tim.streater RemoveThis @dante.org.uk> wrote:

> real-address-in-sig RemoveThis @flur.bltigibbet (Rowland McDonnell) wrote:
>
> > Howard Brazee <howard RemoveThis @brazee.net> wrote:
> >
> > > real-address-in-sig RemoveThis @flur.bltigibbet (Rowland McDonnell) wrote:
> > >
> > > >[1] Consider: some dogs will attempt to mate with almost anything, up
> > > >to and including the postman's leg. That's not a good a particularly
> > > >good idea from the point of view of getting any breeding done, but the
> > > >drive to shag as generally seen in mammals rarely involves any sensible
> > > >thinking, does it?
> > >
> > > Chickens are worse - but no other species has the diversity of dogs.
> >
> > Where's your evidence?
> >
> > If you want promiscuity, look no further than bacteria: they reproduce
> > asexually, but seem happy to swap DNA with any passing source, the
> > slags.
>
> So all bacteria are GM, then?

Nope.

All life on Earth has had genetic modifications to it over the more or
less 4,000,000,000 years that it's been around.

When the phrase abbreviated as `GM' is used, it's used to refer to human
manipulation via genetic engineering techniques.

(earliest traces of life in the fossil record are apparently dated at
3.8 billion years ago - that's not when it first turned up, is it?)

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J. J. Lodder <nospam.RemoveThis@de-ster.demon.nl> wrote:

> Howard Brazee <howard.RemoveThis@brazee.net> wrote:
>
> > There's an article in the June 2008 Scientific American entitled "What
> > is a Species", which discusses the problem of trying to define species
> > to satisfy everybody.
> >
> > http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=what-is-a-species
>
> Still the only correct definition:
> (which doesn't satisfy everybody of course)
> "A species is what a competent taxonomist
> wants to describe as a species."
>
> Taxonomists do get more competent all the time,

But how could anyone assess that competence?

I don't see that the idea of `species' that's come down to us from
historical times is very useful at all.

Rowland.

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<1ihrjbp.1q7ht4u1bauzlbN%real-address-in-sig@flur.bltigibbet>,
real-address-in-sig.DeleteThis@flur.bltigibbet (Rowland McDonnell) wrote:

> If you don't want to help me out with this, please don't respond with
> any abuse.

See, you're like these feministas, you consider disagreement a form of
abuse.
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In article
<1ihrjgg.1am1sv2dxdx0vN%real-address-in-sig@flur.bltigibbet>,
real-address-in-sig.TakeThisOut@flur.bltigibbet (Rowland McDonnell) wrote:

> Troll, was it?
>
> Hmm.
>
> Noted.

Hmm. I like trolling in the grand ol' manner, btw. Good serious trolling
isn't about wading into a Mac group and screaming "Windoze rules," it's
way more subtle than that; Kibo was very good at it.

As for the Rowans in question, I have a lot of respect for both of them;
slightly more for Mr. Atkinson than for His Grace, however. We all know
now that Katherine Parr secretly founded the Church of England.
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In article
<1ihrnr8.2cyfv31a5e5yuN%real-address-in-sig@flur.bltigibbet>,
real-address-in-sig RemoveThis @flur.bltigibbet (Rowland McDonnell) wrote:

>
> Is it because you're jealous that I still have all my hair on my head?
> I possess fine flowing locks that hang past my shoulders and get
> admiration from the girlies (admittedly, often because they'd like their
> hair to be like mine) with not a streak of grey and I'm 40-mumble. You
> do seem to be very bitter and twisted about something and it might well
> be going bald, irrational though that would be.[1]

Doh! [0] Yup, [1] you [2] have me [3] there [4].

[0] A deer, a female deer [12]
[1] Don't you love it when I'm assertive? [5]
[2] See [6]
[3] A name I call myself [ray]
[4] I have a fine full head of hair and a huge schlong [10]
[5] Conclusions in footnotes [6]
[6] Yer a wanker [2]

As fer His Grace [7], he'd like to see them Mohammedans get benefit of
clergy, but not no one else, is my understanding.

[7] My Mam was from Llanishen. That's a suburb of Glasgow. [8]
[8] I'm waiting. [9]
[9] See [2]
[10] Jewish for schvans [11]
[11] Schmekel in your case [2]
[12] A dozen; I'm in computers, I start counting at [0]
[ray] A touch of golden sun
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<1ihrjv4.1mykani1avtekoN%real-address-in-sig@flur.bltigibbet>,
real-address-in-sig.DeleteThis@flur.bltigibbet (Rowland McDonnell) wrote:

> Tim Streater <tim.streater.DeleteThis@dante.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > real-address-in-sig.DeleteThis@flur.bltigibbet (Rowland McDonnell) wrote:
> >
> > > Howard Brazee <howard.DeleteThis@brazee.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > real-address-in-sig.DeleteThis@flur.bltigibbet (Rowland McDonnell) wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >[1] Consider: some dogs will attempt to mate with almost anything, up
> > > > >to and including the postman's leg. That's not a good a particularly
> > > > >good idea from the point of view of getting any breeding done, but the
> > > > >drive to shag as generally seen in mammals rarely involves any sensible
> > > > >thinking, does it?
> > > >
> > > > Chickens are worse - but no other species has the diversity of dogs.
> > >
> > > Where's your evidence?
> > >
> > > If you want promiscuity, look no further than bacteria: they reproduce
> > > asexually, but seem happy to swap DNA with any passing source, the
> > > slags.
> >
> > So all bacteria are GM, then?
>
> Nope.
>
> All life on Earth has had genetic modifications to it over the more or
> less 4,000,000,000 years that it's been around.

> When the phrase abbreviated as `GM' is used, it's used to refer to human
> manipulation via genetic engineering techniques.

Yar, I know. My comment was actually a bit of a wind-up - not aimed at
you, but rather at the anti-GM lobby.
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<1ihrjhn.on6lfx1dgj03gN%real-address-in-sig@flur.bltigibbet>,
real-address-in-sig.RemoveThis@flur.bltigibbet (Rowland McDonnell) wrote:

> Tim Streater <tim.streater.RemoveThis@dante.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > real-address-in-sig.RemoveThis@flur.bltigibbet (Rowland McDonnell) wrote:
> >
> > > Warren Oates <warren.oates.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > real-address-in-sig.RemoveThis@flur.bltigibbet (Rowland McDonnell) wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I think all the churchmen I've heard on the subject have been more
> > > > > measured than me - if not quite as intelligent, unless I happen to
> > > > > have heard Rowan Williams on the subject. Then again, I listen to
> > > > > Radio 4, I have no telly, and do nothing but sneer at newspapers
> > > > > these days.
> > > >
> > > > Such an intellectual! Rowan Williams, he's that C of E chap, talks
> > > > like Tom Jones, came to my house and stole a side of beef, right?
> > >
> > > Rowan Williams is indeed a highly intellectual Welshman - it's nice to
> > > hear someone speak who demands that I engage my brain properly.
> >
> > Right. I heard him and John Sentamu in discussion in Cambridge. Engaging
> > was the word all right.
>
> I can't say I've heard 'em both together. John Sentamu tends to avoid
> the heavy duty stuff when I've heard him - he's the one they call `more
> accessible' and I call `lightweight' /based on what I've heard/.
>
> I gather he's not an intellectual lightweight inside his head, but that
> in public he mostly leaves the heavy stuff to the Primate of ALL
> England[1], while he gets on with being nice and normal.
>
> > His trouble (I won't say problem, because it
> > isn't) is that he's not a politician.
>
> But the job of Archbishop of Canterbury is a political one in many ways.
> You've got to be a politician to do the job, surely?

Not according to my wife, who is rather more clued up about these things
than I am (she used to run an Anglican Retreat House). The hoo-hah
around his comments about sharia law showed that he just tells it as it
is.

> > His role is also misunderstood.
>
> By whom?

The media. Who misrepresented his sharia comments.

> > He
> > is *not* the "Pope" of the Anglican Communion.
>
> Of course not; Christian churches aren't Christian with something like a
> `Pope' at the top. Can't be. The Pope says he's infalliable, makes out
> that somehow *his* line to God is so much better than anyone else's that
> it's his job to tell everyone else what to do.
>
> That's anti-Christian, that is.

I agree entirely. But the media think he's the Anglican equivalent of
the Pope, is what I mean.
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