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Since: Jan 10, 2008 Posts: 17
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(Msg. 16) Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:45 am
Post subject: Re: virtual pc on mac [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: microsoft>public>mac>virtualpc (more info?)
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As Frank says, Boot Camp only supports one Windows partition. It does not
have to be on the same drive with OS/X but it has to be on an internal
drive.
I have read references to a few multiboot systems of the type you describe
but they were not put together with Boot Camp or with anything else
generally available.
"Helpful Harry" wrote in message
> In article , "Colin
> Barnhorst" wrote:
>> "Helpful Harry" wrote in message
>>
>> > In article , "Colin
>> > Barnhorst" wrote:
>> >> "Frank" wrote in message
>> >> >
>> >> > I need to run 3 different versions of Windows -- amnd I could do so
>> >> > very well with my G4 Mac and Virtual PC 7.0.3 (although they were
>> >> > not
>> >> > too fast, all worked). Now I got a new Intel-based MacBook and
>> >> > bootCamp
>> >> > is included free, but it only allows me to run one version of
>> >> > Windows
>> >> > ... as far as I understand.
>> >> >
>> >> > Anyone knows if there is a way, e.g. with BootCamp, or with
>> >> > Parallels
>> >> > or any of the others mentioned here to install more than one Windows
>> >> > version?
>> >>
>> >> You can use Parallels to run several versions of Windows. Just create
>> >> a
>> >> different virtual machine for each one.
>> >
>> > You can also install as many different operating systems with Boot Camp
>> > as you want, not just Windows (limited by hard drive space of course).
>> > You then reboot the computer into whichever one you want to use.
>> >
>> > No doubt VMWare Fusion lets you create multiple virtual machines as
>> > well.
>>
>> Harry, are you sure Boot Camp will support more than one partition at a
>> time?
>
> Not 100% since I've never used it, but I have read about a few other
> people who have triple / quadruple / quintuple booting Macs where they
> can choose MacOS, Windows 98, Windows 2000 / XP and Linux (and possibly
> something like BeOS).
>
>
>
> Helpful Harry
> Hopefully helping harassed humans happily handle handiwork hardships ;o) >> Stay informed about: virtual pc on mac |
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Since: Nov 07, 2006 Posts: 58
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 9:54 pm
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Since: Apr 01, 2008 Posts: 1
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:44 am
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I have just tried to install virtual pc 6.1 on my mac os x 10.4 G5. A message comes up saying virtual pc does not support the cpu in this macintosh. Help! what does this mean and bearing in mind I know little about computors, - (I am not technically minded) , what can I do? >> Stay informed about: virtual pc on mac |
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Since: Oct 15, 2007 Posts: 136
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:19 am
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Since: Apr 19, 2007 Posts: 45
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:21 am
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On Apr 1, 1:44 pm, "Tracey Baldock-Apps" wrote:
> I have just tried to install virtual pc 6.1 on my mac os x 10.4 G5. A message comes up saying virtual pc does not support the cpu in this macintosh. Help! what does this mean and bearing in mind I know little about computors, - (I am not technically minded) , what can I do?
Virtual PC 6.x is not compatible with PPC G5 computers. You will need
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Since: Apr 05, 2008 Posts: 1
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:56 am
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On Apr 1, 6:19 pm, Michael Vilain wrote:
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> The version of VPC for Macintosh that runs on a G5 is 7.03. You'll need
> to buy an upgrade. Your version won't work.
There seems to be some contradicting information here and I am very
confused. I have been running VPC 7 on my iBook G4 no problem for a
couple of years. I just bought an iMac G5 Intel based. I tried to
install Virtual PC 7 on it, and it keeps saying: "This application
quit unexpectedly" on start up. I went on Version tracker, downloaded
7.0.3, and it says as I am attempting to run the installation "this
software cannot be installed on this computer".
So: Can I or can I not use Virtual PC on my intel Mac? If not and I
buy Parallels or something like it, do I need to buy another copy of
Windows XP or or would I be able to use the one that came with
Virtual PC?
thanks for your help.
Isabelle >> Stay informed about: virtual pc on mac |
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Since: Jan 10, 2008 Posts: 17
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 2:59 pm
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No. Not on an intel Mac.
"Isabelle13" wrote in message
On Apr 1, 6:19 pm, Michael Vilain wrote:
>
> The version of VPC for Macintosh that runs on a G5 is 7.03. You'll need
> to buy an upgrade. Your version won't work.
There seems to be some contradicting information here and I am very
confused. I have been running VPC 7 on my iBook G4 no problem for a
couple of years. I just bought an iMac G5 Intel based. I tried to
install Virtual PC 7 on it, and it keeps saying: "This application
quit unexpectedly" on start up. I went on Version tracker, downloaded
7.0.3, and it says as I am attempting to run the installation "this
software cannot be installed on this computer".
So: Can I or can I not use Virtual PC on my intel Mac? If not and I
buy Parallels or something like it, do I need to buy another copy of
Windows XP or or would I be able to use the one that came with
Virtual PC?
thanks for your help.
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Since: Nov 17, 2004 Posts: 69
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 4:12 pm
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Intel Macs are not a G5 or PPC based. VPC on runs on a PPC CPU G3, G4, or
G5 based system. So VPC will not run on your new Intel iMac. You need to
either try a free Open Source product or purchase Vmware, Parallels, or use
the included Boot Camp that Apple supplies as part of OSX 10.5.
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On 4/5/08 1:56 PM, in article
d24f0218-5c1a-43f1-bc0f-c9242f68215b RemoveThis @s33g2000pri.googlegroups.com,
"Isabelle13" wrote:
> On Apr 1, 6:19 pm, Michael Vilain wrote:
>>
>> The version of VPC for Macintosh that runs on a G5 is 7.03. You'll need
>> to buy an upgrade. Your version won't work.
>
>
> There seems to be some contradicting information here and I am very
> confused. I have been running VPC 7 on my iBook G4 no problem for a
> couple of years. I just bought an iMac G5 Intel based. I tried to
> install Virtual PC 7 on it, and it keeps saying: "This application
> quit unexpectedly" on start up. I went on Version tracker, downloaded
> 7.0.3, and it says as I am attempting to run the installation "this
> software cannot be installed on this computer".
>
> So: Can I or can I not use Virtual PC on my intel Mac? If not and I
> buy Parallels or something like it, do I need to buy another copy of
> Windows XP or or would I be able to use the one that came with
> Virtual PC?
>
> thanks for your help.
> Isabelle >> Stay informed about: virtual pc on mac |
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Since: Sep 27, 2003 Posts: 356
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:05 pm
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In article
,
Isabelle13 wrote:
> There seems to be some contradicting information here and I am very
> confused. I have been running VPC 7 on my iBook G4 no problem for a
> couple of years. I just bought an iMac G5 Intel based.
As others have said, the confusion is on your part. A "G5" is a
different an older Mac to an "Intel" one. The "G" line of names comes
from theMotorola PowerPC chip used in those older machines. Apple now
uses Intel's chips.
Virtual PC is basically an emulator that translates Window program code
into something the PowerPC chip can understand (which is why it's so
slow), hence Virtual PC will not work on the newer Intel-based Macs.
For an Intel Mac you need Parallels Desktop, VMWare, or Apple's own
Boot Camp (comes with Mac OS X 10.5). On the plus side, any of these
are much faster then Virtual PC since translation between different
chips is no longer needed.
> So: Can I or can I not use Virtual PC on my intel Mac? If not and I
> buy Parallels or something like it, do I need to buy another copy of
> Windows XP or or would I be able to use the one that came with
> Virtual PC?
No. You can't use the copy of Windows that came with Virtual PC for any
other product. It is licensed only for use with Virtual PC, just like
any version of Windows or Mac OS that comes bundeled with a real
computer is licensed only for that computer.
You will need to buy a new Windows license to use with Parallels,
VMWare or Boot Camp on the Intel Mac.
The only two exceptions are if the version of Windows was actually a
separate boxed copy that the shop itself bundeled with "Virtual PC (no
Windows)", OR if you bought a separate version of Windows yourself.
Helpful Harry
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Since: Apr 19, 2007 Posts: 45
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:29 am
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On Apr 5, 2:56 pm, Isabelle13 wrote:
> On Apr 1, 6:19 pm, Michael Vilain wrote:
>
>
>
> > The version of VPC for Macintosh that runs on a G5 is 7.03. You'll need
> > to buy an upgrade. Your version won't work.
>
> There seems to be some contradicting information here and I am very
> confused. I have been running VPC 7 on my iBook G4 no problem for a
> couple of years. I just bought an iMac G5 Intel based. I tried to
> install Virtual PC 7 on it, and it keeps saying: "This application
> quit unexpectedly" on start up. I went on Version tracker, downloaded
> 7.0.3, and it says as I am attempting to run the installation "this
> software cannot be installed on this computer".
>
> So: Can I or can I not use Virtual PC on my intel Mac? If not and I
> buy Parallels or something like it, do I need to buy another copy of
> Windows XP or or would I be able to use the one that came with
> Virtual PC?
>
> thanks for your help.
> Isabelle
VPC is NOT compatible with the Intel Mac. You can purchase and install
Parallels but you will need a retail version of Windows XP to install.
The version that shipped with VPC is licensed ONLY for the VPC
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Since: Oct 30, 2003 Posts: 158
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(Msg. 26) Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 10:23 am
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Helpful Harry wrote:
> In article , "Colin
> Barnhorst" wrote:
>
>>"Helpful Harry" wrote in message
>>
>>
>>>In article , "Colin
>>>Barnhorst" wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Frank" wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>> I need to run 3 different versions of Windows -- amnd I could do so
>>>>>very well with my G4 Mac and Virtual PC 7.0.3 (although they were not
>>>>>too fast, all worked). Now I got a new Intel-based MacBook and bootCamp
>>>>>is included free, but it only allows me to run one version of Windows
>>>>>... as far as I understand.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone knows if there is a way, e.g. with BootCamp, or with Parallels
>>>>>or any of the others mentioned here to install more than one Windows
>>>>>version?
>>>>
>>>>You can use Parallels to run several versions of Windows. Just create a
>>>>different virtual machine for each one.
>>>
>>>You can also install as many different operating systems with Boot Camp
>>>as you want, not just Windows (limited by hard drive space of course).
>>>You then reboot the computer into whichever one you want to use.
>>>
>>>No doubt VMWare Fusion lets you create multiple virtual machines as
>>>well.
>>
>>Harry, are you sure Boot Camp will support more than one partition at a
>>time?
>
>
> Not 100% since I've never used it, but I have read about a few other
> people who have triple / quadruple / quintuple booting Macs where they
> can choose MacOS, Windows 98, Windows 2000 / XP and Linux (and possibly
> something like BeOS).
>
>
>
> Helpful Harry
> Hopefully helping harassed humans happily handle handiwork hardships ;o)
I was looking for a way to migrate my VPC Virtual Machine to an Intel
Mac running Boot Camp and came across these tips:
http://tinyurl.com/47fzem
(link to MacOSXHints)
In summary, you have to install a fresh verison of Windows XP/Vista
under Boot Camp, then install VPC for Windows and finally migrate the
old Virtual Machine image file to VPC for Windows.
My reasons for mentioning it is this reply are:
1) It seems that VPC for Windows running under Windows installed in Boot
Camp (take a breath) is one way to have several Windows Virtual Machines
on the same Mac
2) Is there another way to migrate the VPC Virtual Machine to Boot Camp
? (Parallels is looking more and more attractive!)
Cheers
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Since: Jan 10, 2008 Posts: 17
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(Msg. 27) Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 10:23 am
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When you use Boot Camp you are not setting up a virtual machine. You are
running Windows natively. The Boot Camp assistant configures an Intel Mac
so that Windows can be installed and dual-booted with OS/X. The Leopard dvd
has the Mac drivers for Windows that Windows needs in order to use the Mac
devices under Windows.
What you cannot do is use the cds that came with VPC7 for a PPC Mac to
install Windows on an Intel Mac running Windows natively. For one thing,
several key files needed for a standalone installation of Windows were
removed from the Windows bundled with VPC7 so that kind of installation
could not be done. Also, the license for the Windows bundled with VPC7 does
not permit the use of that copy of Windows except with VPC7 and, of course,
VPC7 does not run on Intel. The license does not permit any other type of
transfer.
What you can do is transfer your files from your PPC Mac Windows vm to the
Windows running natively on your Intel Mac. I suggest you do that over a
network. You will need to reinstall the apps that you have been using in
the vm but that is usually not a lengthy task.
The problem with imaging Windows from the PPC Mac to the Intel Mac is that
the OS is tailored to run in a vm under VPC7. You want the retail copy of
XP to be the one running in the Intel Mac instead, not the one you were
using on the PPC Mac. Since you are talking about installing a retail copy
on the Intel Mac anyway, there is no need to image the old system. Just
transfer your files and reinstall your apps. And, of course, you want to
avoid the licensing issue that would result from transferring the image.
As for Parallels, you have the same licensing issues. You still need a
fresh copy of XP. Besides, running Windows natively has many advantages
over running it in a vm, especially when it comes to leveraging the Mac
hardware.
There is no reason why you cannot use VPC 2007 on Windows to run virtual
machines but it is the same as running virtual machines on any Windows
computer. No big deal except that you need a separate license for each
Windows vm. You can also run Windows in virtual machines on the OS/X side
using an OS/X virtualization program like Parallels, again as long as all
vms are properly licensed.
"Michael Paine" wrote in message
> Helpful Harry wrote:
>> In article , "Colin
>> Barnhorst" wrote:
>>
>>>"Helpful Harry" wrote in message
>>>
>>>
>>>>In article , "Colin
>>>>Barnhorst" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Frank" wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>>>> I need to run 3 different versions of Windows -- amnd I could do so
>>>>>>very well with my G4 Mac and Virtual PC 7.0.3 (although they were not
>>>>>>too fast, all worked). Now I got a new Intel-based MacBook and
>>>>>>bootCamp
>>>>>>is included free, but it only allows me to run one version of Windows
>>>>>>... as far as I understand.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone knows if there is a way, e.g. with BootCamp, or with Parallels
>>>>>>or any of the others mentioned here to install more than one Windows
>>>>>>version?
>>>>>
>>>>>You can use Parallels to run several versions of Windows. Just create
>>>>>a
>>>>>different virtual machine for each one.
>>>>
>>>>You can also install as many different operating systems with Boot Camp
>>>>as you want, not just Windows (limited by hard drive space of course).
>>>>You then reboot the computer into whichever one you want to use.
>>>>
>>>>No doubt VMWare Fusion lets you create multiple virtual machines as
>>>>well.
>>>
>>>Harry, are you sure Boot Camp will support more than one partition at a
>>>time?
>>
>>
>> Not 100% since I've never used it, but I have read about a few other
>> people who have triple / quadruple / quintuple booting Macs where they
>> can choose MacOS, Windows 98, Windows 2000 / XP and Linux (and possibly
>> something like BeOS).
>>
>>
>>
>> Helpful Harry Hopefully helping harassed humans happily
>> handle handiwork hardships ;o)
>
> I was looking for a way to migrate my VPC Virtual Machine to an Intel Mac
> running Boot Camp and came across these tips:
> http://tinyurl.com/47fzem
> (link to MacOSXHints)
>
> In summary, you have to install a fresh verison of Windows XP/Vista under
> Boot Camp, then install VPC for Windows and finally migrate the old
> Virtual Machine image file to VPC for Windows.
>
> My reasons for mentioning it is this reply are:
> 1) It seems that VPC for Windows running under Windows installed in Boot
> Camp (take a breath) is one way to have several Windows Virtual Machines
> on the same Mac
>
> 2) Is there another way to migrate the VPC Virtual Machine to Boot Camp ?
> (Parallels is looking more and more attractive!)
>
> Cheers
> Michael Paine >> Stay informed about: virtual pc on mac |
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