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STcomp

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:03 pm
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I have an original Ibook (the 1999 version), it is upgraded to 288
megs and I just plugged in an airport card. I was wondering if there
was any sort of software or hardware trick or hack to get the
resolution higher than 800 by 600? Also, I am running mac os 8.6 and
am thinking about buying os 9 on Ebay. Is there a big difference
between 9.0 and 9.2? I just want to see if I can make a reasonable
extra web browsing computer out of this thing, and with 8.6 it really
isnt (web browsers always crash and get errors etc). Sorry if these
are dumb questions, but I have very little experience with Macintosh
computers, thanks.

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Steve Hix1

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 5:06 pm
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In article <1193007792.185081.182300.DeleteThis@t8g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
STcomp.DeleteThis@cwo.com wrote:

> I have an original Ibook (the 1999 version), it is upgraded to 288
> megs and I just plugged in an airport card. I was wondering if there
> was any sort of software or hardware trick or hack to get the
> resolution higher than 800 by 600?

Nope. An LCD panel only has so many pixels.

You can dither the display to get fewer (and fuzzier), but you can't get
more than what it's got.

The PowerBook from the same period had an external display connector and
supported more pixels through that than the built-in LCD, but the iBook
didn't have an external display connector until a few years later.

> Also, I am running mac os 8.6 and
> am thinking about buying os 9 on Ebay. Is there a big difference
> between 9.0 and 9.2? I just want to see if I can make a reasonable
> extra web browsing computer out of this thing, and with 8.6 it really
> isnt (web browsers always crash and get errors etc). Sorry if these
> are dumb questions, but I have very little experience with Macintosh
> computers, thanks.

If you get MacOS 9.0, you can update from there; I don't recall whether
or not 9.2.x runs on the old iBook, but you should at least be able to
run 9.0.4 or so.

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David Empson

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:05 pm
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Steve Hix <sehix RemoveThis @NOSPAMspeakeasy.netINVALID> wrote:

> In article <1193007792.185081.182300 RemoveThis @t8g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
> STcomp RemoveThis @cwo.com wrote:
> > I have an original Ibook (the 1999 version), it is upgraded to 288
> > megs and I just plugged in an airport card.
[...]
> > Also, I am running mac os 8.6 and am thinking about buying os 9 on Ebay.
> > Is there a big difference between 9.0 and 9.2? I just want to see if I
> > can make a reasonable extra web browsing computer out of this thing, and
> > with 8.6 it really isnt (web browsers always crash and get errors etc).

Mac OS 9 might not help a lot. It has been obsolete for six years, and
there is not much more in the way of web browsers available for Mac OS 9
compared to 8.6.

An original iBook is able to run anything up to Mac OS X 10.3.9, which
would give you a lot more choices in software, but the original hard
drive is too small, and you should have more RAM for better performance
(though 288 will be enough to run it).

If you were going to get Mac OS X, you will also need Mac OS 9 in order
to run your old software within Mac OS X, so getting OS 9 is a good idea
anyway.

> If you get MacOS 9.0, you can update from there; I don't recall whether
> or not 9.2.x runs on the old iBook, but you should at least be able to
> run 9.0.4 or so.

9.2.2 will run on any Mac which is supported by Mac OS X. This includes
all models with a G3 processor (as supplied by Apple, not third-party
upgrades), except the original "Macintosh PowerBook G3" (which was a
PowerBook 3400 with just the processor updated).

Slightly older models like the PowerMac 7500-9600 series stop at Mac OS
9.1, unless you do some hacks.

There isn't a lot of obvious difference between 9.1 and 9.2.2. Most of
the changes were to improve the operation of Mac OS 9 inside the Mac OS
X "Classic" environment.

There are several changes between 9.0 and 9.1, but it is a free update.

If you are going to buy some version of Mac OS 9 on eBay, make sure you
get a "full install" version (retail package), not a copy which was
supplied with a particular Mac model, as that is unlikely to work on
your iBook.

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David Empson
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Charssun

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Since: Nov 09, 2007
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:01 pm
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David Empson <dempson.TakeThisOut@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:

> Steve Hix <sehix.TakeThisOut@NOSPAMspeakeasy.netINVALID> wrote:
>
> > In article <1193007792.185081.182300.TakeThisOut@t8g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
> > STcomp.TakeThisOut@cwo.com wrote:
> > > I have an original Ibook (the 1999 version), it is upgraded to 288
> > > megs and I just plugged in an airport card.
> [...]
> > > Also, I am running mac os 8.6 and am thinking about buying os 9 on Ebay.
> > > Is there a big difference between 9.0 and 9.2? I just want to see if I
> > > can make a reasonable extra web browsing computer out of this thing, and
> > > with 8.6 it really isnt (web browsers always crash and get errors etc).
>
> Mac OS 9 might not help a lot. It has been obsolete for six years, and
> there is not much more in the way of web browsers available for Mac OS 9
> compared to 8.6.
>
> An original iBook is able to run anything up to Mac OS X 10.3.9, which
> would give you a lot more choices in software, but the original hard
> drive is too small, and you should have more RAM for better performance
> (though 288 will be enough to run it).
>
> If you were going to get Mac OS X, you will also need Mac OS 9 in order
> to run your old software within Mac OS X, so getting OS 9 is a good idea
> anyway.
>
> > If you get MacOS 9.0, you can update from there; I don't recall whether
> > or not 9.2.x runs on the old iBook, but you should at least be able to
> > run 9.0.4 or so.
>
> 9.2.2 will run on any Mac which is supported by Mac OS X. This includes
> all models with a G3 processor (as supplied by Apple, not third-party
> upgrades), except the original "Macintosh PowerBook G3" (which was a
> PowerBook 3400 with just the processor updated).
>
> Slightly older models like the PowerMac 7500-9600 series stop at Mac OS
> 9.1, unless you do some hacks.
>
> There isn't a lot of obvious difference between 9.1 and 9.2.2. Most of
> the changes were to improve the operation of Mac OS 9 inside the Mac OS
> X "Classic" environment.
>
> There are several changes between 9.0 and 9.1, but it is a free update.
>
> If you are going to buy some version of Mac OS 9 on eBay, make sure you
> get a "full install" version (retail package), not a copy which was
> supplied with a particular Mac model, as that is unlikely to work on
> your iBook.

It's my understanding that networking is alot better on 9.2 -- more
reliable and/or stable. Is that true?

Charssun
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David Empson

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 8:49 pm
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Charssun <charssun RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:

> David Empson <dempson RemoveThis @actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
>
> > There isn't a lot of obvious difference between 9.1 and 9.2.2. Most of
> > the changes were to improve the operation of Mac OS 9 inside the Mac OS
> > X "Classic" environment.
>
> It's my understanding that networking is alot better on 9.2 -- more
> reliable and/or stable. Is that true?

No idea. I had no problem with network stability under 9.1 or earlier.

I wasn't using 9.2.x much except within Mac OS X's classic environment,
and in that case the networking is provided by Mac OS X anyway.

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