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JR

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Since: Jun 24, 2007
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:22 am
Post subject: playing quick time files
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I would like to know if it is possible to stream Quick Time files from a
Window Server to MAC users in Quick Time format. I would prefer to not use
another Media Player to view the Quick Time files and I would rather not
install a MAC Quick Time server.

Thanks

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Neil Smith [MVP Digital M

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:45 pm
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On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 09:22:01 -0700, JR <JR.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:

>I would like to know if it is possible to stream Quick Time files from a
>Window Server to MAC users in Quick Time format. I would prefer to not use
>another Media Player to view the Quick Time files and I would rather not
>install a MAC Quick Time server.

Install Darwin streaming server on the windows server box (it requires
a server box in any case). Windows media services (on windows server)
only streams WMV/WMA ASF files and live streams, and no other types.

It may be possible that users with Flip4Mac will be able to receive
the live stream, but I'd check with a test Mac before posting the
information on your website.

Cheers - Neil
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Digital Media MVP : 2004-2007
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 5:03 am
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My understanding is that you can't set bandwidth and connection limits using
Darwin similar to what you can do with the with Quick Time Streaming product
running on a MAC. Is this correct?

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Neil Smith [MVP Digital M

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 11:54 pm
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On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 05:03:00 -0700, JR <JR DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:

>My understanding is that you can't set bandwidth and connection limits using
>Darwin similar to what you can do with the with Quick Time Streaming product
>running on a MAC. Is this correct?


Shall we start again ?

You haven't really explained your scenario at all, so you're posting
random unconnected questions. Please start by specifying :

Client pool OS (Mac, window, linux, bsd) and player (quicktime, wmp,
realplayer, videolan, winamp)

Desired constraints (bandwidth, input formats, output formats)

Expected user numbers simultanously and concurrently


With some or all of those specifications I might be able to interpret
(read : guess) where we're going with this thread ;-)

Cheers - Neil
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Digital Media MVP : 2004-2007
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:42 am
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From the Apple web site:

Who should use Darwin Streaming Server?

While sharing the same code base as QuickTime Streaming Server, Darwin
Streaming Server is an open source project intended for developers who need
to stream QuickTime and MPEG-4 media on alternative platforms such as
Windows, Linux, and Solaris, or those developers who need to extend and/or
modify the existing streaming server code to fit their needs. Darwin
Streaming Server is only supported by the open source community and is not
eligible for technical support from Apple. Apple hosts a number of email
discussion lists for Darwin Streaming Server users and developers to share
ideas and discuss deployment scenarios.

QuickTime Streaming Server (QTSS) is Apple's commercial streaming server
delivered as part of Mac OS X Server. QTSS provides users with enhanced
administration and media management tools as a result of the tight
integration with Mac OS X Server; these tools are not available as part of
the open source project. Technical support is available for QTSS as part of
the AppleCare support plans provided for Mac OS X Server and Xserve. Both DSS
and QTSS are built on a core server that provides state of the art quality of
service features with Skip protection and Instant-On, and support for the
latest digital media standards, MPEG-4 and 3GPP. Darwin Streaming Server is
available as a free download under the Apple Public Source License.


Our Environment:
Currently we have a Windows Media Server for streaming Windows Media files
for Windows users only. We now need to provide a method for streaming
Quicktime files to MAC users. The client requirement is to use the native
media player and not install a non-native media player. Windows will use the
Windows Media Player and MAC will use the Quicktime player.

Client Pool - MAC
Client Player - Quicktime
Starting Bandwidth Constraints - 15 Mb
Video encoded at a maximum - 384 kbps
Input Format - Quicktime file
Output Format -Quicktime stream
Starting Expected Number of Users - 150-300
Starting Expected Number of Concurrent Users - 150-300

Our plan is to assign bandwidth and concurrent connections based on the
video we are streaming. Not all videos will be treated the same.

My Question:
I would like to stream Quicktime files to MAC users using a Windows
application running on the existing Windows Media Server. Otherwise I will
need to purchase an Apple XServe to stream the Quicktime files.

My understanding is that you can't set bandwidth and connection limits
(Number of concurrent users, bandwidth available) using Darwin similar to
what you can do with the with Quick Time Streaming product running on a MAC.
Is this correct? This is a necessary requirement for our porject. I believe
this is what Apple calls "....enhanced administration and media management
tools as a result of the tight integration with Mac OS X Server" and is only
available with the Quick tIme Streaming Server.

Thanks
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"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" wrote:

> On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 05:03:00 -0700, JR <JR.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
> >My understanding is that you can't set bandwidth and connection limits using
> >Darwin similar to what you can do with the with Quick Time Streaming product
> >running on a MAC. Is this correct?
>
>
> Shall we start again ?
>
> You haven't really explained your scenario at all, so you're posting
> random unconnected questions. Please start by specifying :
>
> Client pool OS (Mac, window, linux, bsd) and player (quicktime, wmp,
> realplayer, videolan, winamp)
>
> Desired constraints (bandwidth, input formats, output formats)
>
> Expected user numbers simultanously and concurrently
>
>
> With some or all of those specifications I might be able to interpret
> (read : guess) where we're going with this thread ;-)
>
> Cheers - Neil
> ------------------------------------------------
> Digital Media MVP : 2004-2007
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs
>
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