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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:39 am
Post subject: problems booting from a partitioned external firewire drive
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I recently bought an external firewire 500GB hard drive (Iomega
MiniMax). I partitioned the drive into two parts then cloned the
computer's hard drive on to the smallest partition using SilverKeeper.
The drive format is Mac OS Extended (Journaled)

When I try to boot from the external cloned system (using Startup Disk
in System Preferences) I am presented with the registration and set-up
proceedure that you get when booting a new computer for the first time.

I have tried cloning the DVD install disk to the other partition and
booting from that but I get the same thing.

I'm not sure if the problem is with the partitions or the drive or
something else.

I can succesfully boot from a cloned system on an unpartitioned external
firewire Lacie drive which I have been using up till now for backups.

Any suggestions?

(eMac, OS X 10.4.2)

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:39 am
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j <j1.DeleteThis@macunlimited.net> wrote:

> I recently bought an external firewire 500GB hard drive (Iomega
> MiniMax). I partitioned the drive into two parts then cloned the
> computer's hard drive on to the smallest partition using SilverKeeper.
> The drive format is Mac OS Extended (Journaled)
>
> When I try to boot from the external cloned system (using Startup Disk
> in System Preferences) I am presented with the registration and set-up
> proceedure that you get when booting a new computer for the first tim

Okay, so you're saying that you _do_ have a bootable OS X on that
partition. Keep going through the setup and you should be fine.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:20 pm
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Mike Rosenberg <mikePOST.TakeThisOut@TOGROUPmacconsult.com> wrote:

> j <j1.TakeThisOut@macunlimited.net> wrote:
>
> > I recently bought an external firewire 500GB hard drive (Iomega
> > MiniMax). I partitioned the drive into two parts then cloned the
> > computer's hard drive on to the smallest partition using SilverKeeper.
> > The drive format is Mac OS Extended (Journaled)
> >
> > When I try to boot from the external cloned system (using Startup Disk
> > in System Preferences) I am presented with the registration and set-up
> > proceedure that you get when booting a new computer for the first tim
>
> Okay, so you're saying that you _do_ have a bootable OS X on that
> partition. Keep going through the setup and you should be fine.

Yes, it's bootable. But why is it asking to be set-up and registered if
it's a clone of the main drive? When booting from the Lacie external
drive everything appears and behaves exactly like the main drive (though
slightly slower).

I didn't complete the registration process so I don't know how
everything would run. Even if I had, I would probably have to go through
the process again the next time I backed up with SilverKeeper (I'm
guessing).

At the moment I have just cloned the Users folder as a backup on the
Iomega drive and will continue to use the Lacie as a bootable clone.

Any other suggestions as to what's going on?
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:16 pm
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j <j1.RemoveThis@macunlimited.net> wrote:

> Yes, it's bootable. But why is it asking to be set-up and registered if
> it's a clone of the main drive? When booting from the Lacie external
> drive everything appears and behaves exactly like the main drive (though
> slightly slower).
>
> I didn't complete the registration process so I don't know how
> everything would run. Even if I had, I would probably have to go through
> the process again the next time I backed up with SilverKeeper (I'm
> guessing).

I've seen this before on occasion, and I don't know why it happens, but
once you've gone through the setup again (and you can quit out of the
registration part to save time) all the user accounts and data are right
where they should be. Sometimes you even have to create a new account
at this point, but from there you can log out and then log into your
usual account.

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:25 pm
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Mike Rosenberg <mikePOST.RemoveThis@TOGROUPmacconsult.com> wrote:

> j <j1.RemoveThis@macunlimited.net> wrote:
>
> > Yes, it's bootable. But why is it asking to be set-up and registered if
> > it's a clone of the main drive? When booting from the Lacie external
> > drive everything appears and behaves exactly like the main drive (though
> > slightly slower).
> >
> > I didn't complete the registration process so I don't know how
> > everything would run. Even if I had, I would probably have to go through
> > the process again the next time I backed up with SilverKeeper (I'm
> > guessing).
>
> I've seen this before on occasion, and I don't know why it happens, but
> once you've gone through the setup again (and you can quit out of the
> registration part to save time) all the user accounts and data are right
> where they should be. Sometimes you even have to create a new account
> at this point, but from there you can log out and then log into your
> usual account.

I'll try that. Thanks for your help Mike.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:13 pm
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In article <1ic58tj.ditla91smnnlsN%j1@macunlimited.net>,
j1.DeleteThis@macunlimited.net (j) wrote:

> I recently bought an external firewire 500GB hard drive (Iomega
> MiniMax). I partitioned the drive into two parts then cloned the
> computer's hard drive on to the smallest partition using SilverKeeper.
> The drive format is Mac OS Extended (Journaled)
>
> When I try to boot from the external cloned system (using Startup Disk
> in System Preferences) I am presented with the registration and set-up
> proceedure that you get when booting a new computer for the first time.
>
> I have tried cloning the DVD install disk to the other partition and
> booting from that but I get the same thing.
>
> I'm not sure if the problem is with the partitions or the drive or
> something else.
>
> I can succesfully boot from a cloned system on an unpartitioned external
> firewire Lacie drive which I have been using up till now for backups.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> (eMac, OS X 10.4.2)

My guess is that your backup utility did not include the magic
file (/private/var/db/.AppleSetupDone) to tell it that the setup
assistant has already been run.

You might try SuperDuper (free for a full clone) or Carbon Copy
Cloner utilities for creating your clone.

Bob Harris
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