Having problems shutting down my computer (10.2.8)

The problem started two days ago; seems to shut down only if I log out
first. I am not running classic. Though I purchased 10.3 I have not
installed it because I have several external firewire drives with lots
of files on them that I do not want to risk losing.

geffects wrote:
 > in article GfXQb.4383$La5.4192@nwrdny01.gnilink.net, Marshall at
 > notmkatzman DeleteThis @verizon.net wrote on 1/25/04 2:17 PM:
 >
 >
  >>Having problems shutting down my computer (10.2.8) with the drop down
  >>"shut down", all my applications will close, leaving an empty
  >>desktop,and a whirling gray gear. Had to force re start. Tried loging
  >>out and from there shutting down, which worked. Is this the solution,or
  >>what else might be wrong? Did the disk utility thing (repair and
  >>verify). Next plan to optimize the disk with Norton Utilities.
 >
 >
 > I'm curious, how often does this happen? I noticed with 10.2 that sometimes
 > (very rarely) if I was running Classic at the same time, it would have that
 > problem. I fixed it by force quiting Classic. I havent had that problem in a
 > while though. And not at all since updating to 10.3
 >

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I went to OS 9 on another drive and used Norton Speed disk to optimize.
I also deleted about 40 gig of files. Re did disk repair an verify,
rebooted on OS 10.2.8 (on my master internal drive) and now it seems to
shut down. In addition I have noticed a considerable speed improvement,
especially in launching Netscape 7.

Marshall wrote:

 > The problem started two days ago; seems to shut down only if I log out
 > first. I am not running classic. Though I purchased 10.3 I have not
 > installed it because I have several external firewire drives with lots
 > of files on them that I do not want to risk losing.
 >
 > geffects wrote:
 >
  >> in article GfXQb.4383$La5.4192@nwrdny01.gnilink.net, Marshall at
  >> notmkatzman DeleteThis @verizon.net wrote on 1/25/04 2:17 PM:
  >>
  >>
   >>> Having problems shutting down my computer (10.2.8) with the drop down
   >>> "shut down", all my applications will close, leaving an empty
   >>> desktop,and a whirling gray gear. Had to force re start. Tried loging
   >>> out and from there shutting down, which worked. Is this the solution,or
   >>> what else might be wrong? Did the disk utility thing (repair and
   >>> verify). Next plan to optimize the disk with Norton Utilities.
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> I'm curious, how often does this happen? I noticed with 10.2 that
  >> sometimes
  >> (very rarely) if I was running Classic at the same time, it would have
  >> that
  >> problem. I fixed it by force quiting Classic. I havent had that
  >> problem in a
  >> while though. And not at all since updating to 10.3
  >>
 >

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Optimizing and trashing preferences did not help. HOWEVER, I found a
suggestion in the Panther discussions which may be the clue. I went to
my start at log in items and turned all but Virex off (removed them).
Items that were on included faxStf, iCal, Stickies, Microsoft etc. I
suspect the Fax program may have caused this. Hopefully this will work.
My other plan was to install Panther but, even though I have installed
the Firewire Drive updates I'm concerned about having to update and re
install applications like FCP, Excell etc. Any thoughts on this would be
appreciated. Thanks.

Marshall wrote:

 > I went to OS 9 on another drive and used Norton Speed disk to optimize.
 > I also deleted about 40 gig of files. Re did disk repair an verify,
 > rebooted on OS 10.2.8 (on my master internal drive) and now it seems to
 > shut down. In addition I have noticed a considerable speed improvement,
 > especially in launching Netscape 7.
 >
 > Marshall wrote:
 >
  >> The problem started two days ago; seems to shut down only if I log out
  >> first. I am not running classic. Though I purchased 10.3 I have not
  >> installed it because I have several external firewire drives with lots
  >> of files on them that I do not want to risk losing.
  >>
  >> geffects wrote:
  >>
   >>> in article GfXQb.4383$La5.4192@nwrdny01.gnilink.net, Marshall at
   >>> notmkatzman.DeleteThis@verizon.net wrote on 1/25/04 2:17 PM:
   >>>
   >>>
   >>>> Having problems shutting down my computer (10.2.8) with the drop down
   >>>> "shut down", all my applications will close, leaving an empty
   >>>> desktop,and a whirling gray gear. Had to force re start. Tried loging
   >>>> out and from there shutting down, which worked. Is this the solution,or
   >>>> what else might be wrong? Did the disk utility thing (repair and
   >>>> verify). Next plan to optimize the disk with Norton Utilities.
   >>>
   >>>
   >>>
   >>>
   >>> I'm curious, how often does this happen? I noticed with 10.2 that
   >>> sometimes
   >>> (very rarely) if I was running Classic at the same time, it would
   >>> have that
   >>> problem. I fixed it by force quiting Classic. I havent had that
   >>> problem in a
   >>> while though. And not at all since updating to 10.3
   >>>
  >>
 >

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Marshall wrote:
 > Optimizing and trashing preferences did not help. HOWEVER, I found a
 > suggestion in the Panther discussions which may be the clue. I went to
 > my start at log in items and turned all but Virex off (removed them).
 > Items that were on included faxStf, iCal, Stickies, Microsoft etc. I
 > suspect the Fax program may have caused this. Hopefully this will work.
 > My other plan was to install Panther but, even though I have installed
 > the Firewire Drive updates I'm concerned about having to update and re
 > install applications like FCP, Excell etc. Any thoughts on this would be
 > appreciated. Thanks.
 >
 > Marshall wrote:
 >
  >> I went to OS 9 on another drive and used Norton Speed disk to
  >> optimize. I also deleted about 40 gig of files. Re did disk repair an
  >> verify, rebooted on OS 10.2.8 (on my master internal drive) and now it
  >> seems to shut down. In addition I have noticed a considerable speed
  >> improvement, especially in launching Netscape 7.
  >>
  >> Marshall wrote:
  >>
   >>> The problem started two days ago; seems to shut down only if I log
   >>> out first. I am not running classic. Though I purchased 10.3 I have
   >>> not installed it because I have several external firewire drives with
   >>> lots of files on them that I do not want to risk losing.
   >>>
   >>> geffects wrote:
   >>>
   >>>> in article GfXQb.4383$La5.4192@nwrdny01.gnilink.net, Marshall at
   >>>> notmkatzman.RemoveThis@verizon.net wrote on 1/25/04 2:17 PM:
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>>> Having problems shutting down my computer (10.2.8) with the drop down
   >>>>> "shut down", all my applications will close, leaving an empty
   >>>>> desktop,and a whirling gray gear. Had to force re start. Tried loging
   >>>>> out and from there shutting down, which worked. Is this the
   >>>>> solution,or
   >>>>> what else might be wrong? Did the disk utility thing (repair and
   >>>>> verify). Next plan to optimize the disk with Norton Utilities.
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>> I'm curious, how often does this happen? I noticed with 10.2 that
   >>>> sometimes
   >>>> (very rarely) if I was running Classic at the same time, it would
   >>>> have that
   >>>> problem. I fixed it by force quiting Classic. I havent had that
   >>>> problem in a
   >>>> while though. And not at all since updating to 10.3
   >>>>
   >>>
  >>
 >

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That did not help either.
Perhaps it is due to static electricity? Static electricity would crash
my USB hub peripherals when I touched my WACOM tablet and discharged a
spark. This may also be the reason my computer has not been shutting down.
Winter apparently is a great time for static electricity.

Marshall wrote:

 > Optimizing and trashing preferences did not help. HOWEVER, I found a
 > suggestion in the Panther discussions which may be the clue. I went to
 > my start at log in items and turned all but Virex off (removed them).
 > Items that were on included faxStf, iCal, Stickies, Microsoft etc. I
 > suspect the Fax program may have caused this. Hopefully this will work.
 > My other plan was to install Panther but, even though I have installed
 > the Firewire Drive updates I'm concerned about having to update and re
 > install applications like FCP, Excell etc. Any thoughts on this would be
 > appreciated. Thanks.
 >
 > Marshall wrote:
 >
  >> I went to OS 9 on another drive and used Norton Speed disk to
  >> optimize. I also deleted about 40 gig of files. Re did disk repair an
  >> verify, rebooted on OS 10.2.8 (on my master internal drive) and now it
  >> seems to shut down. In addition I have noticed a considerable speed
  >> improvement, especially in launching Netscape 7.
  >>
  >> Marshall wrote:
  >>
   >>> The problem started two days ago; seems to shut down only if I log
   >>> out first. I am not running classic. Though I purchased 10.3 I have
   >>> not installed it because I have several external firewire drives with
   >>> lots of files on them that I do not want to risk losing.
   >>>
   >>> geffects wrote:
   >>>
   >>>> in article GfXQb.4383$La5.4192@nwrdny01.gnilink.net, Marshall at
   >>>> notmkatzman DeleteThis @verizon.net wrote on 1/25/04 2:17 PM:
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>>> Having problems shutting down my computer (10.2.8) with the drop down
   >>>>> "shut down", all my applications will close, leaving an empty
   >>>>> desktop,and a whirling gray gear. Had to force re start. Tried loging
   >>>>> out and from there shutting down, which worked. Is this the
   >>>>> solution,or
   >>>>> what else might be wrong? Did the disk utility thing (repair and
   >>>>> verify). Next plan to optimize the disk with Norton Utilities.
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>> I'm curious, how often does this happen? I noticed with 10.2 that
   >>>> sometimes
   >>>> (very rarely) if I was running Classic at the same time, it would
   >>>> have that
   >>>> problem. I fixed it by force quiting Classic. I havent had that
   >>>> problem in a
   >>>> while though. And not at all since updating to 10.3
   >>>>
   >>>
  >>
 >

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Have you tried depressing and HOLDING down the power button. May take up to
30-45 seconds or longer.


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| That did not help either.
| Perhaps it is due to static electricity? Static electricity would crash
| my USB hub peripherals when I touched my WACOM tablet and discharged a
| spark. This may also be the reason my computer has not been shutting down.
| Winter apparently is a great time for static electricity.
|
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