safari vs.Firefox

 > I'm interested in know about the differences between these browsers.
 > Thanks.

I use Firefox primarily, but I'm disappointed that it doesn't look or
behave like the x86 version.

Safari runs nicely most of the time, but suffers from slow-downs and
other performace issues. And the fact that the first time I open the
bookmark menu it takes 3 seconds to show up really bugs me. But the
main reason I use Firefox is the extentions. If Safari would even give
you more tab usage customization and show the little icon next to
bookmarks like other browsers do, I'd probably switch back.\
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In article , o-chan wrote:

  > > I'm interested in know about the differences between these browsers.
  > > Thanks.
 >
 > I use Firefox primarily, but I'm disappointed that it doesn't look or
 > behave like the x86 version.
 >
 > Safari runs nicely most of the time, but suffers from slow-downs and
 > other performace issues. And the fact that the first time I open the
 > bookmark menu it takes 3 seconds to show up really bugs me. But the
 > main reason I use Firefox is the extentions. If Safari would even give
 > you more tab usage customization and show the little icon next to
 > bookmarks like other browsers do, I'd probably switch back.\

How does the Netscape 7 for OS X stack up in the opinions?
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o-chan writes:

  > > I'm interested in know about the differences between these browsers.
  > > Thanks.
 >
 > I use Firefox primarily, but I'm disappointed that it doesn't look or
 > behave like the x86 version.

Really? I very much prefer how Firefox looks on my Mac and
on my Linux box to how it looks on my windows machine.

 > main reason I use Firefox is the extentions. If Safari would even
 > give you more tab usage customization and show the little icon next to
 > bookmarks like other browsers do, I'd probably switch back.\

Whoo-ya! AdBlock and FlashBlock totally rock. Pithhelmet for
Safari helps, but AdBlock for Firefox is just astoundingly cool.
The little AdBlock button on the status bar pops up a list of
blockable things on a page and you just select them and *poof*
away they go. Block flash, block javascript, block iframes
and browse without the hassle and at twice the speed.

<rant size='relatively minor'>
I'd be a lot less zealous with the ad-blocking if the sites
and advertisers would be a lot less obnoxious about the ads.
If they could confine them to a third or less of a page, and
stop with the animation - ads shouldn't freaking move! - and
jeez - some of them (flash) even have goddamned *sounds*.
</rant>

One thing that I really would like, though, would be some
form of bookmark syncronization for FireFox. Safari lets
you sync bookmarks between multiple computers by storing
your bookmarks through iSync and .mac. OmniWeb comes close
to doing that through .mac (or any WebDAV space one might
have), though .mac is a little flakey and when OmniWeb
cannot contact .mac, it annoys the crap out of you with
lots of "please enter your password" failures (like Mail.app,
the symptom of a failure to communicate is a password dialog).

Anyway, I kind of bounce between those three browsers
depending on my mood and, sometimes, on what I'm actually
trying to do. No reason not to!



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Richard Kaszeta wrote:

 >
 >
  >>I'm interested in know about the differences between these browsers.
  >>Thanks.
 >
 >
 > I've found Firefox to be minimally useable (no scrollbars, and it
 > does weird things if I install the tabbrower prefrences plugin).

I don't understand: I'm running Firefox on Mac OS X every single day,
and I have scrollbars.. ???


 >
 > Yet, I hear of a lot of people using it regularly. If so, do you have
 > the scrollbar issue, and if not, did you do anything to fix it?
 >
 > (It's not a one-off problem, I see it on every OS X box I have access
 > to, including a brank-spanking new Mini).
 >

I don't know what the plugin you are talking about does, but if it
doesn't work right, why use it?

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 > Whoo-ya! AdBlock and FlashBlock totally rock. Pithhelmet for
 > Safari helps, but AdBlock for Firefox is just astoundingly cool.
 > The little AdBlock button on the status bar pops up a list of
 > blockable things on a page and you just select them and *poof*
 > away they go. Block flash, block javascript, block iframes
 > and browse without the hassle and at twice the speed.

I have adblock, and I try not to use it, because those sites depend on
ad revenue, and anything that's not a popup is okay with me :)

But I do use it when there's excessive animation or (ugh) SOUND.
Nothing like being in the middle of a work day and it sounds like you
just died in Donkey Kong.
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Hi Howard,

On 2005-03-30 17:56:55 +0200, "Howard" said:
 > I'm interested in know about the differences between these browsers.
 > Thanks.

.... Safari is more vulnerable to resize/maximize and other nasty window
operations than is FireFox. Safari looks better, tho. ;-) But FireFox
can display a number of pages at least halfway correctly that Safari
miserably fails at.

Example: <a rel="nofollow" style='text-decoration: none;' href="http://www.tcs.ch" target="_blank">http://www.tcs.ch</a>

A typical microcrap site. Try this with both Safari and FireFox and see
for yourself.

Hope this helps.
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Paul Förster wrote:
 >Hi Howard,
 >

  >> I'm interested in know about the differences between these browsers.
  >> Thanks.
 >
 >... Safari is more vulnerable to resize/maximize and other nasty window
 >operations than is FireFox. Safari looks better, tho. ;-) But FireFox
 >can display a number of pages at least halfway correctly that Safari
 >miserably fails at.

Safari is also hideously slow on eBay on my iBook G3, especially with tabbed
browsing. Firefox is adequate in the same situation.
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Paul Förster <paul.foerster RemoveThis @gmx.net> wrote:

<font color=purple> > Example: <a rel="nofollow" style='text-decoration: none;' href="http://www.tcs.ch</font" target="_blank">http://www.tcs.ch</font</a>>

Bad Example: <a rel="nofollow" style='text-decoration: none;' href="http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tcs.ch" target="_blank">http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tcs.ch</a>

 > A typical microcrap site. Try this with both Safari and FireFox and see
 > for yourself.

Don't blame (or credit) the browser when a site is poorly constructed.
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Richard Kaszeta wrote:


 >
  > > I'm interested in know about the differences between these browsers.
  > > Thanks.
 >
 > I've found Firefox to be minimally useable (no scrollbars, and it
 > does weird things if I install the tabbrower prefrences plugin).

I have loads of extensions installed here, and cannot report any
problems at all.

 > Yet, I hear of a lot of people using it regularly. If so, do you have
 > the scrollbar issue, and if not, did you do anything to fix it?

I use FF as my default browser now. The only time I see missing scroll
bars is if I install an iffy Theme.

 > (It's not a one-off problem, I see it on every OS X box I have access
 > to, including a brank-spanking new Mini).

Nothing here, two Macs running 10.3.8, scroll bars are fine, and always
have been.

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hairy.biker DeleteThis @spamcop.net (Andy Hewitt) writes:
  > > I've found Firefox to be minimally useable (no scrollbars, and it
  > > does weird things if I install the tabbrower prefrences plugin).
 >
 > I have loads of extensions installed here, and cannot report any
 > problems at all.

Tabbrowser preferences is the only one I've really had problems with
(Tab support stops working after a while with some sets of
preference). That's the important one for me, since that is what I
need to get my Windows and Mac versions behaving similarly.

  > > Yet, I hear of a lot of people using it regularly. If so, do you have
  > > the scrollbar issue, and if not, did you do anything to fix it?
 >
 > I use FF as my default browser now. The only time I see missing scroll
 > bars is if I install an iffy Theme.

Odd. I'm not using a user-installed theme. What theme are you running?

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   >>>I'm interested in know about the differences between these browsers.
   >>>Thanks.
  >>
  >>I've found Firefox to be minimally useable (no scrollbars, and it
  >>does weird things if I install the tabbrower prefrences plugin).
 >
 >
 > I have loads of extensions installed here, and cannot report any
 > problems at all.

The one real buggy thing with FF now, and it seems not everyone sees
this, is that if you hide the app and come back to it later, the window
is blank. If you shrink it to the dock and then pull it back out, it's
fine. Very odd. It almost looks like something javascript would do,
but javascript does not run the application itself.
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<font color=green>  >> Example: <a rel="nofollow" style='text-decoration: none;' href="http://www.tcs.ch</font" target="_blank">http://www.tcs.ch</font</a>>
 >
<font color=purple> >Bad Example: <a rel="nofollow" style='text-decoration: none;' href="http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tcs.ch</font" target="_blank">http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tcs.ch</font</a>>
 >
  >> A typical microcrap site. Try this with both Safari and FireFox and see
  >> for yourself.
 >
 >Don't blame (or credit) the browser when a site is poorly constructed.

Indeed. Apart from the lack of character encoding on the page, there are 25
HTML errors there. That's inexcusable, especially considering the page does
almost nothing.

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Richard Kaszeta wrote:

<Snipped Text>

  > > I have loads of extensions installed here, and cannot report any
  > > problems at all.
 >
 > Tabbrowser preferences is the only one I've really had problems with
 > (Tab support stops working after a while with some sets of
 > preference). That's the important one for me, since that is what I
 > need to get my Windows and Mac versions behaving similarly.

I've had tabbrowser preferences installed for a few weeks now and
haven't had any issues at all.

Mind you, I couldn't get FoxyTunes to work properly though. That just
caused a network freeze.

   > > > Yet, I hear of a lot of people using it regularly. If so, do you have
   > > > the scrollbar issue, and if not, did you do anything to fix it?
  > >
  > > I use FF as my default browser now. The only time I see missing scroll
  > > bars is if I install an iffy Theme.
 >
 > Odd. I'm not using a user-installed theme. What theme are you running?

I currently stick with the default, but I've tried some of the available
themes, Nautipolis was my favourite, all but the default seem to lose
the scroll bar. Or at least the graphics for it. If you click into the
area where you think it should be, it still works.

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(updated Feb 21 2005)
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