x11 (xterm) does not start, no window appears

On Feb 26, 11:03 am, Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovet... RemoveThis @gmail.com>
wrote:
> Markus Dehmann <markus.dehm... RemoveThis @gmail.com> writes:
> > Hi,
>
> > I have Leopard and I installed X11 from the Leopard installation DVD.
>
> > So, I can just type xterm in the terminal, and it will start X11 and
> > xterm, right? But it doesn't work here. It's a fresh Leopard
> > installation. When I type xterm nothing happens. When I look at top it
> > shows that X11 and xterm are being executed, but no window shows up.
>
> > Am I missing something?
>
> On my Leopard installation, if I type xterm at a terminal window,  I
> get X11 starting up, and an xterm appearing.
>
> Do you have the X11 icon showing up in your dock?  If so, click on
> that, then select preferences, and make sure "Full Screen Mode" under
> "Output" isn't selected.
>
> If it _is_ selected, then X11 will be running, but putting its output
> on some virtual window you aren't seeing.  (To see it, type
> Command-Option-A.)

No, the X11 icon does not show up. But as I said, I can see it running
as reported by the top command. I think it's running in some wrong
display. I don't see it when I do Command-Option-A.

On this site: http://forums.macosxhints.com/showthread.php?t=80171
it says:

"In brief, don't run X11.app from the Dock. Or, at all, manually.
Ensure that you are not explicitly setting $DISPLAY in any
configuration files, verify that 'echo $DISPLAY' in Terminal.app
reports something that starts with '/tmp/launchd', and then just run
'xterm &' from Terminal. This will work with any X11 client
application that links with the standard libX11.dylib."

But my DISPLAY variable has the following content:
/tmp/launch-jBoCTO/:0
So, nothing with launchd (or is that supposed to be launch instead of
launchd?)

The only non-standard thing in my system is that I chose during
installation that terminal starts a bash rather than a shell.

Markus
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Markus Dehmann <markus.dehmann DeleteThis @gmail.com> writes:

> On Feb 26, 11:03 am, Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovet... DeleteThis @gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Markus Dehmann <markus.dehm... DeleteThis @gmail.com> writes:
> > > Hi,
> >
> > > I have Leopard and I installed X11 from the Leopard installation DVD.
> >
> > > So, I can just type xterm in the terminal, and it will start X11 and
> > > xterm, right? But it doesn't work here. It's a fresh Leopard
> > > installation. When I type xterm nothing happens. When I look at top it
> > > shows that X11 and xterm are being executed, but no window shows up.
> >
> > > Am I missing something?
> >
> > On my Leopard installation, if I type xterm at a terminal window,  I
> > get X11 starting up, and an xterm appearing.
> >
> > Do you have the X11 icon showing up in your dock?  If so, click on
> > that, then select preferences, and make sure "Full Screen Mode" under
> > "Output" isn't selected.
> >
> > If it _is_ selected, then X11 will be running, but putting its output
> > on some virtual window you aren't seeing.  (To see it, type
> > Command-Option-A.)
>
> No, the X11 icon does not show up. But as I said, I can see it running
> as reported by the top command. I think it's running in some wrong
> display. I don't see it when I do Command-Option-A.
>
> On this site: http://forums.macosxhints.com/showthread.php?t=80171
> it says:
>
> "In brief, don't run X11.app from the Dock. Or, at all, manually.

Right. But the X11 will still show up in the Dock if you run X11 by
starting an X application (like xterm).

> Ensure that you are not explicitly setting $DISPLAY in any
> configuration files, verify that 'echo $DISPLAY' in Terminal.app
> reports something that starts with '/tmp/launchd', and then just run
> 'xterm &' from Terminal. This will work with any X11 client
> application that links with the standard libX11.dylib."
>
> But my DISPLAY variable has the following content:
> /tmp/launch-jBoCTO/:0
> So, nothing with launchd (or is that supposed to be launch instead of
> launchd?)
>
> The only non-standard thing in my system is that I chose during
> installation that terminal starts a bash rather than a shell.

Hmm. It sounds to me like X11 is getting hung up someplace early in
startup. The icon for X11 appears immediately in my dock when I start
an xterm from the terminal command line.

If I were you, I'd make a new user, and try to start X11 from there.

Then, if it works, I would start investigating appropriate "." files.
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On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 07:05:06 -0800 (PST), Markus Dehmann wrote:
> Hi,

> I have Leopard and I installed X11 from the Leopard installation DVD.

> So, I can just type xterm in the terminal, and it will start X11 and
> xterm, right? But it doesn't work here. It's a fresh Leopard
> installation. When I type xterm nothing happens. When I look at top it
> shows that X11 and xterm are being executed, but no window shows up.

> Am I missing something?

> Thanks!
> Markus

You need to launch X11.app (in /Applications/Utilities).


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On 2008-02-26 07:05:06 -0800, Markus Dehmann <markus.dehmann.DeleteThis@gmail.com> said:

> Hi,
>
> I have Leopard and I installed X11 from the Leopard installation DVD.
>
> So, I can just type xterm in the terminal, and it will start X11 and
> xterm, right? But it doesn't work here. It's a fresh Leopard
> installation. When I type xterm nothing happens. When I look at top it
> shows that X11 and xterm are being executed, but no window shows up.
>
> Am I missing something?
>
> Thanks!
> Markus

I had that problem with MATLab (which uses X11). I just reinstalled
X11 and MATLab and everything worked properly. So ... I suggest
reinstalling both. There is a seperate X11 installer on the Leopard
disk.

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In <mvzltnd7rw.fsf RemoveThis @ethel.the.log>, Doug Anderson wrote:

> On my Leopard installation, if I type xterm at a terminal window, I
> get X11 starting up, and an xterm appearing.

Mine too. I didn't know that. Up until now, I've been launching X11
before starting any X apps. But I've just tested with a couple and
noticed that starting them will start the X11 server if needed.

I don't know what to suggest to the original poster.

-j


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Jeffrey Goldberg wrote:

> Mine too. I didn't know that. Up until now, I've been launching X11
> before starting any X apps. But I've just tested with a couple and
> noticed that starting them will start the X11 server if needed.

When I moved to OS-X, I read about this when trying to find
documentation about the X server on OS-X.

HOWEVER, if you have X applications on remote machines, they cannot
target their display to your OS-X machine until the OS-X has started its
X11 software

In particular, starting X11 causes it to read the /private/etc/X0.hosts
file that contains the hosts authorized to target their X display onto
your machine. I have not tested whether manually executing the XHOST
command without starting the X11 server would cause X11 to start
automatically upon reception of a call on port 6000 (the X window
protocol port).
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